AOD-9604 Cloudy but not gelling

[Smartmonkey82]

Hi, new to the forum and peptides. I recently received an order of AOD-9604 and am having the classic reconstitution issues.
The situation: I started with a new vial of Hospira BAC Water and new vial of 0.6% acetic acid. I have tried to reconstitute 5 vials of 5mg AOD in 3ML vials.

Note: I used the same vial of BAC to reconstitute the KLOW and MOTS-C that came with the AOD and had no issues with the first vial of either.

After 48-hours I had the following results
Vial 1: Added 2.5ml of BAC. Had large particulates that wouldn't dissolve so I added 0.5ml of acetic. Now very cloudy with little floaters. I did have a bad angle on mixing the BAC and the vacuum really sucked in the water as I didn't have a good pressure on the plunger so it created a lot of turbulence so this one might be one me.
Vial 2. Added 0.5ML of Acetic Acid, let sit for a minute then added 2.5ml of BAC. End result, large clumps and very cloudy.
Vial 3: Added 0.6ml of Acetic Acid, let sit a minute then added 2.4ml of BAC. End result, a little cloudy but large clumps.
Vial 4: Added 3ml of BAC. End result, no floaters but cloudy
Vial 5: Added 1ML of air then added 3ML of BAC (to slow down the mix rate from the vacuum). End result is no floaters and cloudy but less so than vial 4.

Thus far, I haven't seen any gelling. Just the cloudy and particles.

My questions:
1. Am I doing something wrong or did I get a bad batch? Everything I have read says I should also be getting gelling with the particles if I mix it wrong and I haven't gotten any gelling.
2. I know particles aren't good but the last 2 vials that are just cloudy, are those 2 OK. Anyone have real experience with this?

 

[homebrew]

I am far from an expert, but I have reconstituted more that one batch of 5ml AOD with no issues as far as cloudy or floaters. In my case I added 2.5ml Hospira to the 3ml vial.
A couple of questions:
1) did you allow the vials 15-20 minutes to warm to room temperature before re-constituting?
2) did the powder look okay before you added the BAC? (should be a uniform white or off-white powder or cake. Should not have excessive clumping or a yellowish discoloration)
3) you stated vial 1 the BAC jetted in with little control. Vials 2-5, did the BAC get gently added down the side of the vial?
4) did you gently roll the vials at an angle to assist dissolving, or did you shake the vials.
last question 5) WHY did you reconstitute five vials before asking advice? I would understand maybe 3 vials, but how do you plan to use up 5 - 3ml vials in a month?
You are correct that that particles are not good, but this is supposed to be crystal clear with no particles or cloudiness.
I hope someone with more experience has better feedback and suggestions. Filtering should remove the particles, but I wonder if the cloudiness could be filtered out.

 

[mongchopz]

I have never been able to get into recon correctly trying all combos of bac and AA , I have also never seen any results with it . I think there are far better fat burners out there and will never buy it again .

 

[CNCCurrency]

I am far from an expert, but I have reconstituted more that one batch of 5ml AOD with no issues as far as cloudy or floaters. In my case I added 2.5ml Hospira to the 3ml vial.
A couple of questions:
1) did you allow the vials 15-20 minutes to warm to room temperature before re-constituting?
2) did the powder look okay before you added the BAC? (should be a uniform white or off-white powder or cake. Should not have excessive clumping or a yellowish discoloration)
3) you stated vial 1 the BAC jetted in with little control. Vials 2-5, did the BAC get gently added down the side of the vial?
4) did you gently roll the vials at an angle to assist dissolving, or did you shake the vials.
last question 5) WHY did you reconstitute five vials before asking advice? I would understand maybe 3 vials, but how do you plan to use up 5 - 3ml vials in a month?
You are correct that that particles are not good, but this is supposed to be crystal clear with no particles or cloudiness.
I hope someone with more experience has better feedback and suggestions. Filtering should remove the particles, but I wonder if the cloudiness could be filtered out.

This is a myth about not shaking them to mix. 4) did you gently roll the vials at an angle to assist dissolving, or did you shake the vials.

 

[Wilk8824]

Use the AA first and let the powder dilute and then ad BAC water

 

[Smartmonkey82]

I have never been able to get into recon correctly trying all combos of bac and AA , I have also never seen any results with it . I think there are far better fat burners out there and will never buy it again .

This is fair. I only got AOD because I wanted the fat mob plus the joint repair. AOD plus Klow should hopefully help an old Soldiers knees. If I keep having the recon issues then I will do mots, tesa or CJC.

 

[Smartmonkey82]

This is a myth about not shaking them to mix. 4) did you gently roll the vials at an angle to assist dissolving, or did you shake the vials.

I tried the roll between my hands, the gentle swirl and a gentle upside down/right side up motion. No shacking.

 

[Smartmonkey82]

Use the AA first and let the powder dilute and then ad BAC water

I tried that with vial 2 and 3 and it gave me the worse results. Vial 2 was 0.5 ml of AA and vial 3 was 0.6ml. I did the AA, rolled it until I saw it stop diluting. Note it never fully diluted, then added the BAC. I said a minute in my post but it was closer to 5.

 

[HRH_IceQueen]

I'm no expert, but I never had any issues when I recon my AOD (knock on wood). I've always let my AOD come to room temp by letting it sit for 30mins, then inject 3ml of BAC water (no AA in the mix) at an angle slowly and roll it between my hands to mix. Since my BAC water is cold, usually I let the reconned AOD to sit out more for another 10mins and re-roll to help dissolve the rest of the powder.

 

[Smartmonkey82]

I am far from an expert, but I have reconstituted more that one batch of 5ml AOD with no issues as far as cloudy or floaters. In my case I added 2.5ml Hospira to the 3ml vial.
A couple of questions:
1) did you allow the vials 15-20 minutes to warm to room temperature before re-constituting?
2) did the powder look okay before you added the BAC? (should be a uniform white or off-white powder or cake. Should not have excessive clumping or a yellowish discoloration)
3) you stated vial 1 the BAC jetted in with little control. Vials 2-5, did the BAC get gently added down the side of the vial?
4) did you gently roll the vials at an angle to assist dissolving, or did you shake the vials.
last question 5) WHY did you reconstitute five vials before asking advice? I would understand maybe 3 vials, but how do you plan to use up 5 - 3ml vials in a month?
You are correct that that particles are not good, but this is supposed to be crystal clear with no particles or cloudiness.
I hope someone with more experience has better feedback and suggestions. Filtering should remove the particles, but I wonder if the cloudiness could be filtered out.

1. Yes
2. Looked fine. No issues or discoloration.
3. Vial 2-5 were controlled.
4. I just rolled, I didn’t shake
5. Ha. Well the first vial I reconstituted with the BAC. When I got the particles, i added the AA. After some more reading online, I read the AA should go first. So I did a second one. Lots are large chunks. Waited 24 hours and read some more and watched some videos. Tried again. Knowing I wasn’t going to use a vial with large particles there wasn’t a reason to wait as I want to get it into my cycle. I have now tried all methods I have found online. With the last 2 having the best results and I can use 2 vials in a month based on the 300mcg daily dosage. Plus If I do have a bad batch I want to reach out to the S******. But if I am messing it up then, that’s on me.

Thanks for the feedback