are you concerned?

[amandaj85]

I have been using tirz for over a year and am pretty familiar with MOST things. However i have seen the topic of fentanyl mentioned a few times here and also on the telegram chat. I'd like to know should we be concerned about the possibility of our peptides having fentanyl in there? I do have anxiety so i am probably over thinking it more than i should be. Thanks for any insight i appreciate it

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Yes.

 

[amandaj85]

Yes.

same here! i was thinking of getting some of those test strips off amazon and just testing each vile hopefully will be safe

 

[Calm Logic]

Group testing would allay most of these concerns for me.

It hasn't happened yet, but I think it's always possible for DNP or Dermorphin being mislabeled as a GLP. So avoiding a vendor with either on their pricelist would be something I would consider. But most vendors don't have them listed.

And I love the tip by @zpped of using a popular vendor and waiting before using a vial. I would ideally wait a month or so. By then, the word would be out.

 

[angela_a]

I have been using tirz for over a year and am pretty familiar with MOST things. However i have seen the topic of fentanyl mentioned a few times here and also on the telegram chat. I'd like to know should we be concerned about the possibility of our peptides having fentanyl in there? I do have anxiety so i am probably over thinking it more than i should be. Thanks for any insight i appreciate it

I test everything I put in my body. It's expensive but I think I'm worth it ☺️

 

[Bourbaki1729]

I’ve had several friends die from fentanyl in their schedule 1 drugs, but it is not what I’m worried about with peptides. Why is this a concern? What is the financial incentive? Misidentification of peptides or large overfill seem to be much more worrisome to me.

 

[yobculture]

And I love the tip by @zpped of using a popular vendor and waiting before using a vial. I would ideally wait a month or so. By then, the word would be out.

I agree. It was a great tip and I believe he even suggested that in my intro post several months ago, which I appreciated. Especially if you don’t have the money to pay for a $300 Jano test (plus $80 shipping) for each batch. Even though I was part of a testing group for peps from a particular vendor, I’ll also probably wait for several months before actually using just to be double sure. If I don’t hear anything bad about it, I’ll cautiously assume it’s OK. I have plenty of the “good” stuff to tide me over in the meantime.

 

[Calm Logic]

I have always loved rational procrastination, haha.

 

[pavlovs]

I have always loved rational procrastination, haha.

I have about 60 vials of rational procrastination in my freezer😛

 

[dogmom]

No I'm not concerned. China doesn't ship out fentanyl but fentanyl precursors (ingredients to make it). China also makes synthetic opioids that are not fentanyl. They also make a bunch of chemicals that would be dangerous if injected. I guess you could get anything but it isn't really in these companies interests to kill off their clientele. You are more likely to get no peptide in a vial than a random toxic chemical.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

No I'm not concerned. China doesn't ship out fentanyl but fentanyl precursors (ingredients to make it). China also makes synthetic opioids that are not fentanyl. They also make a bunch of chemicals that would be dangerous if injected. I guess you could get anything but it isn't really in these companies interests to kill off their clientele. You are more likely to get no peptide in a vial than a random toxic chemical.

We’ve already seen contaminated meds with whatever that cleaning solution was. Didn’t that mess people up pretty good?

 

[AndyPanda]

We’ve already seen contaminated meds with whatever that cleaning solution was. Didn’t that mess people up pretty good?

Did anyone actually get sick from that? I thought it showed up in a test.

 

[indolent]

If I have any expectations of fentanyl in my grey market tirzepatide, it's been put there by big pharma to create a scare crisis.

But what I have more real fear of is the as-yet-unknown long-term serious negative effects of tirzepatide use. Nonetheless, I have a five-year hoard.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Did anyone actually get sick from that? I thought it showed up in a test.

I thought some people had cellulitis at the injection site but it could be tumor or I could be mistaken

 

[hexagonal]

Group testing would allay most of these concerns for me.

It hasn't happened yet, but I think it's always possible for DNP or Dermorphin being mislabeled as a GLP. So avoiding a vendor with either on their pricelist would be something I would consider. But most vendors don't have them listed.

And I love the tip by @zpped of using a popular vendor and waiting before using a vial. I would ideally wait a month or so. By then, the word would be out.

DNP is very yellow and is used in much higher doses. The amount of DNP needed to be of concern in a peptide vial would make it very obvious that something is wrong

 

[hexagonal]

I have been using tirz for over a year and am pretty familiar with MOST things. However i have seen the topic of fentanyl mentioned a few times here and also on the telegram chat. I'd like to know should we be concerned about the possibility of our peptides having fentanyl in there? I do have anxiety so i am probably over thinking it more than i should be. Thanks for any insight i appreciate it

Produced in different facilities, packaged in different ways. Not something I am concerned about, personally.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

I’ve been squirreling away glps the first half of the year and I’m sitting on a four or five year supply and really glad I am rn. I’m becoming increasingly concerned

 

[Morbius]

If I have any expectations of fentanyl in my grey market tirzepatide...

100%, just sub reta for me.

I'm no Chinese crime lord but fent getting mixed into the grey GLP-1 supply seems about as likely as being exposed to fent when you buy a counterfeit LV bag.

It's all illegal stuff, but very different stuff with different supply chains and customers, right? Is there really a fent cooker next to the peptide sequencer? It is possible, but it seems nonsensical.

And anyone in the peptide biz has to see that fent is the new boogeyman in America. Remember, the alleged threat of Canadian fent is the stated reason for tariffs on Canada. Fent is the new national security excuse they use when they want to do something crazy.

If fent was actually found in our peps and it killed a few of us fatsos, the US government would probably go apeshit and for once they'd have a good reason. A pep supplier would have to be pretty damn dumb to poke that hornet's nest.

Be smart, stick to known vendors and stay cool. And let someone else take the first shot. 😉

CAUGHT ON FILM: GLP-1/FENTANYL LAB SHOCKING

 

[Batscout]

Did anyone actually get sick from that? I thought it showed up in a test.

I never heard of a single story of adverse effects from that product. I’m not defending the vendor but, while it showed up in Janoshik’s test, the vendor contested the result and I am not sure they ever changed their position. I believe the vendor offered some kind of compensation for those who purchased from the batch, but I think the compensation was weak. If you’ve heard of a single verifiable instance of adverse effects from that story, please share.

 

[PeppySince2022]

I have been using tirz for over a year and am pretty familiar with MOST things. However i have seen the topic of fentanyl mentioned a few times here and also on the telegram chat. I'd like to know should we be concerned about the possibility of our peptides having fentanyl in there? I do have anxiety so i am probably over thinking it more than i should be. Thanks for any insight i appreciate it

Fent in glp’s sounds like kids being warned to check their holloween candy. I don’t have any concerns.

 

[FlowerFairy]

Did anyone actually get sick from that? I thought it showed up in a test.

A guy on Reddit used it and supposedly started “peeing black” but I can’t find any follow up beyond the first day that he used it.

 

[YoYoFat]

We’ve already seen contaminated meds with whatever that cleaning solution was. Didn’t that mess people up pretty good?

I’ve heard of no illness or sickness from it.

 

[Cndmk]

So let me understand the thought premise here. They would intentionally put a higher price selling material into a strong customer base that has a tendency to test product a LOT, to... hurt them, which would then blow up their business almost instantly where they are making money hand over fist?

This world would do wise to re-learn Occam's razor principle, if it makes literal zero sense from a financial perspective in a medium risk environment, it won't happen.

I don't do conspiracy theories, but if we EVER see fentanyl that is confirmed to be widespread by a vendor, I automatically would think it's a government agency trying to punish the grey market, literally almost NO other situation would make sense.

 

[Morbius]

I automatically would think it's a government agency trying to punish the grey market

Good point and there is precedent!

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

This world would do wise to re-learn Occam's razor principle, if it makes literal zero sense from a financial perspective in a medium risk environment, it won't happen.

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[jdaniel30]

The allegations of fentanyl in China peptides gives pharma the excuse to use patient safety rather than preservation of profits as their motive to seize products at the border. Seriously, we are taking food from the mouths of billionaires.

 

[Cndmk]

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Notice what I said "widespread", I could TOTALLY believe that a single instance due to someone doing something stupid in shipping/supply chain.

Occam's dictates the simplest explanation is USUALLY the correct one. The explanation of rich greedy pricks convince government with money to do something evil to maintain/increase profits which is proven to happen all the time is actually simpler than some kind of crazy concept where a whole facility knowingly poisons their customer base for.. reasons? The mental gymnastics to go through a facility knowingly blowing up business is a CRAZY jump also if it attracts international criminal convictions for essentially no profit gain.

I would even be surprised if a country did that TBH (but short term thinking is the name of the game if you are run by an oligarchy/dictator), because the international sanctions and possibly cutting off shipping from pharma sources would probably not justify the profits the companies want to protect

Let's take the zero pep's incident happening earlier in the year, do we know exactly what happened? No, but we have been able to trace certain labels/etc. to what seemingly were the 0 pep vials, which most likely traces back to a central supplier.

What most likely happened:
- A supplier scammed the manufacturers with bunk product to make a quick buck, thus supplying them with basically "sugar" when you expected peptides. That makes a hell of a lot of sense and made the supplier a ton of short term money. It wouldn't attract international attention as it only screwed over the vendors + us, which people would say "screw em" anyways to financially hurting those groups. It was a cheap tactic that provided a lot of money to that supplier and if they wanted to leave the market anyways I can see the motive. It also didn't harm anyone outside of the financial part to my knowledge.

For most people outcome > than input energy or risk for large decisions like that to make sense. Actors in general are logical about risk vs. reward (when all information is known). If you are going to bring up something like Tariffs in this argument which seem self deprecating, tariffs are a regressive tax on consumption, so it make sense rich people would be in favor of tariffs, as they don't consume exponentially more than an average person.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

Notice what I said "widespread", I could TOTALLY believe that a single instance due to someone doing something stupid in shipping/supply chain.

Occam's dictates the simplest explanation is USUALLY the correct one. The explanation of rich greedy pricks convince government with money to do something evil to maintain/increase profits which is proven to happen all the time is actually simpler than some kind of crazy concept where a whole facility knowingly poisons their customer base for.. reasons? The mental gymnastics to go through a facility knowingly blowing up business is a CRAZY jump also if it attracts international criminal convictions for essentially no profit gain.

I would even be surprised if a country did that TBH (but short term thinking is the name of the game if you are run by an oligarchy/dictator), because the international sanctions and possibly cutting off shipping from pharma sources would probably not justify the profits the companies want to protect

Let's take the zero pep's incident happening earlier in the year, do we know exactly what happened? No, but we have been able to trace certain labels/etc. to what seemingly were the 0 pep vials, which most likely traces back to a central supplier.

What most likely happened:
- A supplier scammed the manufacturers with bunk product to make a quick buck, thus supplying them with basically "sugar" when you expected peptides. That makes a hell of a lot of sense and made the supplier a ton of short term money. It wouldn't attract international attention as it only screwed over the vendors + us, which people would say "screw em" anyways to financially hurting those groups. It was a cheap tactic that provided a lot of money to that supplier and if they wanted to leave the market anyways I can see the motive. It also didn't harm anyone outside of the financial part to my knowledge.

For most people outcome > than input energy or risk for large decisions like that to make sense. Actors in general are logical about risk vs. reward (when all information is known). If you are going to bring up something like Tariffs in this argument which seem self deprecating, tariffs are a regressive tax on consumption, so it make sense rich people would be in favor of tariffs, as they don't consume exponentially more than an average person.

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