ASC /Angel Shanghai Chemical Co., Ltd

[urSinsn2me]

Are they legit? I've looked everywhere including other forums, websites and can't find a single person who's purchased and used them. Prices are pretty cheap so it's pretty strange that now one person anywhere has posted they bought and used so far. They went from offering reta 15 for 320 to literally the next day 280. Makes me feels like if they're trying to get people to jump in quick. Anything I see posted from them is literally only from themselves trying to sale and nobody even comments. Maybe it's just me but it's so strange

 

[Sheldor]

They are new in buissnes but some members ordered from there. Quality seems good so far

 

[urSinsn2me]

They are new in buissnes but some members ordered from there. Quality seems good so far

So I recently was emailing with bella(qsc) and angel(asc) when I was ready to order from both they sent me the bank info. To my surprise it's exactly the same. Does this mean they're the same company? When I asked both why they have the same banking info they have not responded at all after emailing back and forth without issue. Seems fishy to me so I just didn't order at all

 

[milos]

some of their latest 3rd party test result (posted somewhere else) didn't come out good

 

[urSinsn2me]

some of their latest 3rd party test result (posted somewhere else) didn't come out good

Yeah I posted about it Purity between 94%-96% on most of their stuff and 98% on only 3 items. Glad I stuck with amo and their underdosing

 

[urSinsn2me]

Yeah I posted about it Purity between 94%-96% on most of their stuff and 98% on only 3 items. Glad I stuck with amo and their underdosing

some of their latest 3rd party test result (posted somewhere else) didn't come out good

I also tried to let people know on other forums that qsc and asc have the same banking info when trying to pay so that already was a huge red flag for me

 

[milos]

amo also didn't come out very well according to the latest 3rd party test results
they are maybe all using the same raw peptide supplier, who got bad batches

 

[urSinsn2me]

amo also didn't come out very well according to the latest 3rd party test results
they are maybe all using the same raw peptide supplier, who got bad batches

Negative amo came out 99% so stop spreading misinformation it's very irresponsible for buyers. They were only underdosed as we all know

 

[urSinsn2me]

amo also didn't come out very well according to the latest 3rd party test results
they are maybe all using the same raw peptide supplier, who got bad batches

Don't lump amo in with qsc and speak on something you obviously didn't bother to check

 

[trinaisfive]

This is false about amo. They were a bit under but pure. They will provide you testing and it has been tested by third party. I have ordered 3x and it is good. Plus no preservatives

 

[ZippityDooDah]

So I recently was emailing with bella(qsc) and angel(asc) when I was ready to order from both they sent me the bank info. To my surprise it's exactly the same. Does this mean they're the same company? When I asked both why they have the same banking info they have not responded at all after emailing back and forth without issue. Seems fishy to me so I just didn't order at all

It's not easy for Chinese companies to open US bank accounts, so they have US-based agents to accept payment on their behalf.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

I find all the posts rushing to defend "Amo" suspicious.

 

[Sheldor]

It's not easy for Chinese companies to open US bank accounts, so they have US-based agents to accept payment on their behalf.

thats why also some transactions get lost because they dont get directly the money and they have to search for it

 

[urSinsn2me]

I find all the posts rushing to defend "Amo" suspicious.

You're entitled to your opinion but I'm making my comments based on actual facts so it doesn't really matter how you feel about "rushing to defend amo"

 

[urSinsn2me]

I find all the posts rushing to defend "Amo" suspicious.

It's not easy for Chinese companies to open US bank accounts, so they have US-based agents to accept payment on their behalf.

I find these comments rushing to defend qsc/asc suspicious

 

[urSinsn2me]

I find all the posts rushing to defend "Amo" suspicious.

Love that generic argument though.

 

[Sam90078]

Love that generic argument though.

I'll take the word of a staff member over a new member though. The provenance of the users should also be taken into account. I appreciate the information.

 

[MrsRoper_1977]

I find all the posts rushing to defend "Amo" suspicious.

I agree!

 

[FourthQuintile]

Negative amo came out 99% so stop spreading misinformation it's very irresponsible for buyers. They were only underdosed as we all know

Underdosed is a sign of not coming out well IMO. Amo has a number of 10% or more underdoses. This Tirz, advertised at 60mg, was tested by the PTDS across 3 vials according to this Janoshik report. The vials came in at ~50, ~50, and ~56mg. The purity numbers are great, but a -16% miss of advertised amount on two vials isn't great.

To note, nearly all messages on this forum from you are either commenting favorably about Amo, or commenting neutral to negative about ASC and/or QSC, and all within the past 7 days. And dismissing the mentioning of underdosing, as "misinformation", "very irresponsible for buyers", and "as well all know", is concerning. Consistent underdosing is problematic, as the price is based on a number that the testing isn't backing up, and buyers are being shorted what they are paying for. It would not be hard for a vendor to undercut other vendors on pricing when selling a product as X mg while actually shipping 0.85X mg and selling at a price that would be fair for 0.85X mg. But this is problematic as it results in buying a 60mg vial to research it at 4x 15mg, but actually getting 4x 12.5mg from the vial instead.

Janoshik Analytical

 

[floralkaffe]

I'm taking the leap here and ordering a bit from them today. We will see how shipping time looks.

Are they legit? I've looked everywhere including other forums, websites and can't find a single person who's purchased and used them. Prices are pretty cheap so it's pretty strange that now one person anywhere has posted they bought and used so far. They went from offering reta 15 for 320 to literally the next day 280. Makes me feels like if they're trying to get people to jump in quick. Anything I see posted from them is literally only from themselves trying to sale and nobody even comments. Maybe it's just me but it's so stran

 

[milos]

Don't lump amo in with qsc and speak on something you obviously didn't bother to check

Im not the one who mix up info about QSC / ASC , read thru again ...
I said ASC (Angel Shanghai ...) results didnt come out good. (btw. we are not allowed to re-posting here from peppys)
You answer me "Yeah I posted about it Purity between 94%-96%" which is mix up with QSC results ...
So you are the one who spreads misinformation
Another issue - amo results - their test come below 10% which is official "FAIL" by peppys
I do my homework (im member of many forums and groups) so please don't waste your time, and calling me "speak on something you obviously didn't bother to check", because you are the one who even didn't check own previous messages

 

[milos]

They will provide you testing and it has been tested by third party. I have ordered 3x and it is good. Plus no preservatives

"they will provide you 3rd party tests"?
"THEY will"
1) 3rd party tests are not given by the vendor but by their actual customers posted somewhere else
2) and that products were good - well most vendors send you a real product, but exact amount and purity you never know except you send your vial for testing

 

[ZoeyZ]

我不是那个混淆 QSC / ASC 信息的人，请再读一遍......
我说 ASC（Ansgel Shanghai...）的结果不太好。（顺便说一句，我们不允许从 peppys 重新发布这里的内容）
您回答我“是的，我发布了关于纯度在 94%-96% 之间的信息”，这与 QSC 的结果混淆了...
所以你就是那个传播错误信息的人
另一个问题 - amo 的结果 - 他们的测试低于 10%，这是 peppys 官方的“失败”
我做了功课（我是许多论坛和小组的成员），所以请不要浪费你的时间，并称我“谈论一些你显然没有检查过的事情”，因为你是那个甚至没有检查自己之前的消息的

Would you care to tell me where you saw a bad test report from ASC? So far I've seen good results on their tests.

 

[milos]

Would you care to tell me where you saw a bad test report from ASC? So far I've seen good results on their tests.

Thank you dear ASC rep to take your time and join this discussion. Once you are present here maybe you can elaborate on your "3rd party tests results" which you providing to potential customers

 

[milos]

我不是那个混淆 QSC / ASC 信息的人，请再读一遍......
我说 ASC（Ansgel Shanghai...）的结果不太好。（顺便说一句，我们不允许从 peppys 重新发布这里的内容）
您回答我“是的，我发布了关于纯度在 94%-96% 之间的信息”，这与 QSC 的结果混淆了...
所以你就是那个传播错误信息的人
另一个问题 - amo 的结果 - 他们的测试低于 10%，这是 peppys 官方的“失败”
我做了功课（我是许多论坛和小组的成员），所以请不要浪费你的时间，并称我“谈论一些你显然没有检查过的事情”，因为你是那个甚至没有检查自己之前的消息的

btw. you even forgot to translate, so we all can clearly see you are from China, so for sure not their customer

 

[ZoeyZ]

btw. you even forgot to translate, so we all can clearly see you are from China, so for sure not their customer

Just out of curiosity, where did you see that? I didn't promote any company, I didn't say anything bad about anyone.

 

[milos]

Just out of curiosity, where did you see that? I didn't promote any company, I didn't say anything bad about anyone.

so you claim you are not from ASC, but writting in chinese, during chinese office hours and posting tests results so fast.
Please explain to us, how tests posted by ASC company itself can be called 3rd party?
Can you write for us your definition of 3rd party tests?

 

[milos]

btw. for everyone else here, I apologize, I did confuse ASC with different company with similar name from the latest results from peppys, there are NO RESULTS of any 3rd party tests for ASC.

However the issue of their claims of providing "3rd party tests" is very real and needs to be addressed

 

[ZoeyZ]

btw. for everyone else here, I apologize, I did confuse ASC with different company with similar name from the latest results from peppys, there are NO RESULTS of any 3rd party tests for ASC.

However the issue of their claims of providing "3rd party tests" is very real and needs to be addressed

Dear Sir, I have never denied myself, I have not even had a formal self-introduction before, I do not know what you understand by third party. I don't know whether you have purchased our products or not, but it is certain that our products have been tested. And we guarantee the quality of our products, if any customer testing, our product purity is less than 98%, we can give the customer a refund to deal with, or re-send a copy of the product, it depends on the customer's own choice.94%-96% purity of the product is seriously unqualified. This data is enough to ruin everything in our company once it is associated with ASC.

 

[milos]

And we guarantee the quality of our products, if any customer testing, our product purity is less than 98%, we can give the customer a refund to deal with, or re-send a copy of the product, it depends on the customer's own choice.94%-96% purity of the product is seriously unqualified. This data is enough to ruin everything in our company once it is associated with ASC.

OK, so finally you did confess you are from ASC. (btw. only 1 rep per vendor is allowed here)
Also you acknowledge that you don't understand meaning of term 3rd party tests, but you are giving these test results to people, claiming they are 3rd party. So to save reputation of your company, please try to comprehend the meaning of a third party - means someone independent, not from your company, send out for testing randomly selected vial from a real purchase as an ordinary customer for testing. These results are called a third party.
What you are giving to people are second party tests only, because its your company who order the tests, most probably send out a few of the best vials on hand, and later publish result only for the one vial with the best result. So it can not so trusted.
If you want a real third party tests, ask some of your customers who volunteer to send a 1 vial for test, you will pay for the test but not interfere in any way - whatever the result will be, it must be released to public.
After we can discuss yours 3rd party test results.