ASC banned from the StairwayToGray site

[DevynL90]

It should be noted that there are a few "respected" vendors (Amo) that has never tested anything. ever. Never posted a test result for anything. Yet, they have been blessed on more than one of the "lists" as being preferred.

i don't believe people are putting amo on their "preferred" vendor list because of vendor provided COA's...

 

[keangkong]

It should be noted that there are a few "respected" vendors (Amo) that has never tested anything. ever. Never posted a test result for anything. Yet, they have been blessed on more than one of the "lists" as being preferred.

I've seen multiple third party tests of Amo. Amo seems highly regarded but did have a burning injection issue for many users of tirzepatide.

 

[Peotidethrowaway]

It should be noted that there are a few "respected" vendors (Amo) that has never tested anything. ever. Never posted a test result for anything. Yet, they have been blessed on more than one of the "lists" as being preferred.

I think amo is one of the few actual manufacturers according to krysias investigations but who really knows

Stair master is a big fan of them therefore the tirzhelp group is a big fan of them

 

[zpped]

I've seen multiple third party tests of Amo. Amo seems highly regarded but did have a burning injection issue for many users of tirzepatide.

Before the burning tirz, amo had a reputation of underfilling by up to 20%. They eventually fixed their dosage problem and have been one of the most accurate.

 

[geoguy78]

It should be noted that there are a few "respected" vendors (Amo) that has never tested anything. ever. Never posted a test result for anything. Yet, they have been blessed on more than one of the "lists" as being preferred.

Amo definitely sells legit product, my scale can attest to that. But they have NEVER published a test for any of their product that they have paid for. At least none that I'm aware of.

 

[rkl123]

Amo definitely sells legit product, my scale can attest to that. But they have NEVER published a test for any of their product that they have paid for. At least none that I'm aware of.

I consider this a positive. Vendors wasting money on 1st party published tests is dumb.

 

[geoguy78]

I consider this a positive. Vendors wasting money on 1st party published tests is dumb.

1st party test are only so useful, and I'm currently using an Amo batch so obviously it's not a deterrence for me. But at the same time it's nice to see because it's the vendor making a statement along the lines of "this is what you should expect". Some vendors routinely overfill so someone that doesn't know that, and doesn't bother to do their own testing (let's be honest, these internet forums/groups are niche and most people don't bother testing) could be in for a rough go of it if they don't see the vendor test quantity per vial.

 

[jynxie]

This is the case that I think started the whole thing with ASC who were notified about this problem middle of Dec. They reluctantly agreed to reimburse the buyer the cost of the kit & testing but then never followed thru. Stairmaster got involved & tried to negotiate with them & when they continued to refuse to make it right that's when they got banned from Stairmaster's TG. The very next day after the banning, ASC put out his apology and agreed to reimburse everyone. The original buyer that had this test done got reimbursed the same day of the apology for the kit but never did get reimbursed for testing. The sad part is that ASC continued to sell this supposed AOD the whole time. The other case that I know of is a user that posted in Swiss and reviewed ASC and gave the details of the test results, which were exactly like this one & ASC refused the refund per the review. Raven had a GB & the same thing happened with the same results. This was just announced about a week ago. The GB happened 11-2024: AOD 5mg grey cap tested by Jano came back in 1-2025 Somatotropin 1.51mg. Vendor agreed to remake/reship. Raven has so far not disclosed the vendor.

But Somatotropin IS AOD. Really underfilled at what it tested, but it's AOD, none the less.

 

[skunknuts]

But Somatotropin IS AOD. Really underfilled at what it tested, but it's AOD, none the less.

lol, what? Very similar is not the same, you gotta be kidding.

 

[penewbie]

But Somatotropin IS AOD. Really underfilled at what it tested, but it's AOD, none the less.

Did you really make an account specifically to comment this falsehood? lol

 

[hexagonal]

But Somatotropin IS AOD. Really underfilled at what it tested, but it's AOD, none the less.

Somatotropin is HGH. AOD is a fragment of HGH that is supposed to just have the lipolytic effect without impacting IGF-1.

If you take somatotropin at above replacement levels, you'll get additional lipolysis and increase your IGF-1, as well as potentially impacting your glucose, insulin, etc.

If you take AOD you'll... not get lipolysis or IGF-1 increases.

 

[Cain_SPC]

We all know who #4 is, it's Nexa in Shanghai.

No one should have let me buy grey. If I can figure it out, anyone can. That's a problem.

Nope not us

 

[chmuse]

Nope not us

I'm sorry if my humor didn't translate

 

[zpped]

Somatotropin is HGH. AOD is a fragment of HGH that is supposed to just have the lipolytic effect without impacting IGF-1.

If you take somatotropin at above replacement levels, you'll get additional lipolysis and increase your IGF-1, as well as potentially impacting your glucose, insulin, etc.

If you take AOD you'll... not get lipolysis or IGF-1 increases.

Someone should resell all the empty pep going around as AOD. same effects.

 

[Nikki nik]

Someone should resell all the empty pep going around as AOD. same effects.

Stop

 

[rkl123]

Was it ever hard confirmed ASC sold 0 pep? Or just bad lipo and somatotropin?

 

[Nikki nik]

Was it ever hard confirmed ASC sold 0 pep? Or just bad lipo and somatotropin?

Water and red dye for the LIPO

 

[cldfront]

Water and red dye for the LIPO

Are you sure about this? The ASC LIPO had a red dye in it that was not disclosed in the ingredient list, (like, peony root extract?) but it was not simply red dye and water as far as I'm aware - that was a different company. Not sure what the outcome of the owners of this product was.
Then, folks being told their product was buffered when it was not - refunded.
AOD no bueno - refunded.
Underfilled reta20 - partially refunded or fully on destruction video.
But everything else being thrown around is all feels or mixing up of vendors at this point until test results come in.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm trying hard to keep track because most of my stash is ASC... whomp, whomp.

 

[keangkong]

Are you sure about this? The ASC LIPO had a red dye in it that was not disclosed in the ingredient list, (like, peony root extract?) but it was not simply red dye and water as far as I'm aware - that was a different company. Not sure what the outcome of the owners of this product was.
Then, folks being told their product was buffered when it was not - refunded.
AOD no bueno - refunded.
Underfilled reta20 - partially refunded or fully on destruction video.
But everything else being thrown around is all feels or mixing up of vendors at this point until test results come in.
Unless I'm missing something? I'm trying hard to keep track because most of my stash is ASC... whomp, whomp.

It does seem that the GLP-1 is very quick to turn against vendors previously held in high regard.

 

[zpped]

It does seem that the GLP-1 is very quick to turn against vendors previously held in high regard.

I think the bigger problem is they are quicker to hold a vendor in high regard... the majority of people couldn't tell you the name of 3 vendors that have been in business for more than 1 year.