ASC tirz and sema quality?

[Lullabytreehugger]

Anyone who has recently tried angel tuk’s sema and tirz can you please let me know how is the quality? Im going nuts for xmas planning to buy feom the Christmas promotions!

 

[nurseratchit]

All I can say is my ASC tirz from August tested well at over 99% purity and acceptable mass overfill. I have not actually tried it yet. I personally have not noticed any difference between the lyophilized tirz varieties I have tried (which all had 3rd party tests >99% purity and slight overfill). I did notice it hitting a little stronger than the compounded.

 

[penewbie]

It's good (the tirz).

But don't you have like, grams of this stuff already? 🤣

 

[aloil]

The tirz I bought tested at over 99.5% purity and a little less than 10% overfill.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

Question number two,
Is ASC a raw manufacturer or a reseller?

 

[cldfront]

Question number two,
Is ASC a raw manufacturer or a reseller?

I just asked if the T30 is the same batch as the Thanksgiving promo and she said yes. My Thanksgiving order is due to arrive today and if all is well with it I'm going to order more and send a vial for testing. I'd love to split testing cost with someone if you're shopping for the T30 by chance?

 

[clevesand]

Question number two,
Is ASC a raw manufacturer or a reseller?

They're all going to tell you they make the shit.

My Tirz from July tested fine. Forgot the overfill. Vials are vaccum sealed. It works. It's giving me less burping than compound for some reason

 

[kayh9]

I started using ASC Tirz recently and it’s been great. Prior to this I was using Amo and before that I was buying domestic. I don’t feel like there’s a huge difference but for awhile towards the end of my last Amo batch it seemed like it was….less effective? Somehow? I was also stacking Cagri with it. Since I started using my ASC order of tirz (I also bought sema but haven’t tried it yet), I haven’t even felt like I needed Cagri. I wanna stress that Amo’s product was still fine and I’m down 65 pounds now with their help. But ASC is getting cheaper and I feel very confident in their product, I think they’re worth a shot.

 

[keangkong]

Question number two,
Is ASC a raw manufacturer or a reseller?

My understanding is that there are several steps involved in the manufacture and that those who place it in vials are not the folks who produce the tirzepatide. And then some folks are just resellers. Many resellers will try to give you the false impression that they're involved in manufacturing. All of this is hearsay from what I've read on forums like this and others. It's not like I've done any deep investigation or went undercover in China, sneaking into the factories.

 

[lrossetto0722]

I just asked if the T30 is the same batch as the Thanksgiving promo and she said yes. My Thanksgiving order is due to arrive today and if all is well with it I'm going to order more and send a vial for testing. I'd love to split testing cost with someone if you're shopping for the T30 by chance?

I would be happy to pitch in if you get something going ... I just purchased some t-30 and sema from ASC

 

[GimmeABreak]

I purchase and tested T30 from ASC in October and it tested swimmingly. I have already posted the Trust Pointe COA but here are the highlights for reference:



I haven't tried it yet and probably won't until 10/25. I may get it tested again before I pin to see how it held up in the freezer.

 

[Lullabytreehugger]

I purchase and tested T30 from ASC in October and it tested swimmingly. I have already posted the Trust Pointe COA but here are the highlights for reference:

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I haven't tried it yet and probably won't until 10/25. I may get it tested again before I pin to see how it held up in the freezer.

Very nice overfill and high purity content!

 

[lrossetto0722]

I purchase and tested T30 from ASC in October and it tested swimmingly. I have already posted the Trust Pointe COA but here are the highlights for reference:

View attachment 4583

I haven't tried it yet and probably won't until 10/25. I may get it tested again before I pin to see how it held up in the freezer.

Thank you for sharing! That looks great!

 

[Lcc1284]

Hi, I’m trying to switch from Prime to something more affordable. Been looking at Nexaph but really liking this ASC post and results but I can’t find it searching anywhere. How can I find it? Looking for tirz and sema. Thx!

 

[Superfluous]

@Lcc1284 here's their Christmas promotion - you'll find other vendors in that same sub-forum too, but Tuk is generally considered one of the best for customer service on here https://glp1forum.com/threads/🎄asc-tuk-christmas-promotion-🎄.2097/

 

[Needsalife]

My ASC Tirz is working great. No difference from Zep, the best I can tell. Tuk is very easy to work with. Order arrived in about two weeks.

 

[scarywood75]

My understanding is that there are several steps involved in the manufacture and that those who place it in vials are not the folks who produce the tirzepatide. And then some folks are just resellers. Many resellers will try to give you the false impression that they're involved in manufacturing. All of this is hearsay from what I've read on forums like this and others. It's not like I've done any deep investigation or went undercover in China, sneaking into the factories.

My guess is that the factories making the raws are legit ones.

Something like Retatrutide or tirzepatide are under protected patents, the full peptide sequences to synthesize them aren't even publicly available.

It's a very complex process involving many reagents, reactions and techniques. It's also not very stable in its pure form.

Splitting the raw is however much easier. You mix some excipients that protect it from temperature, oxydation, etc and sterile water. Then lyophilization into aliquots.

 

[temte]

I bought 15 mg red cap Tirz from them which works great but I get much stronger GI side effects from their product

 

[penewbie]

My guess is that the factories making the raws are legit ones.

Something like Retatrutide or tirzepatide are under protected patents, the full peptide sequences to synthesize them aren't even publicly available.

It's a very complex process involving many reagents, reactions and techniques. It's also not very stable in its pure form.

Splitting the raw is however much easier. You mix some excipients that protect it from temperature, oxydation, etc and sterile water. Then lyophilization into aliquots.

Tirz's synthesis process is fully publicly available. Anyone with advanced peptide synthesis capabilities should be able to follow along and do it.

I am not sure about reta.

 

[GimmeABreak]

My guess is that the factories making the raws are legit ones.

Something like Retatrutide or tirzepatide are under protected patents, the full peptide sequences to synthesize them aren't even publicly available.

It's a very complex process involving many reagents, reactions and techniques. It's also not very stable in its pure form.

Splitting the raw is however much easier. You mix some excipients that protect it from temperature, oxydation, etc and sterile water. Then lyophilization into aliquots.

Tirz and Reta are patented but as far as I know the "formula" to copy them is included in their publicly available patent filing.

 

[scarywood75]

There's a nuance to be made, the molecular structure of Tirzepatide is public, not the manufacturing process, reagents, sequence, etc.

These are very important to know, because chemistry is not as simple as it seems, remember that there's billions in R&D spent just to figure this out.

 

[penewbie]

There's a nuance to be made, the molecular structure of Tirzepatide is public, not the manufacturing process, reagents, sequence, etc.

These are very important to know, because chemistry is not as simple as it seems, remember that there's billions in R&D spent just to figure this out.

That's false.

The entire process is laid out from A to Z.

I'll look for it later if no one beats me to it.

 

[scarywood75]

Think of it like having the ingredients of pre-made muffins without having the quantity for each and manufacturing steps. Yes you could reproduce it, but finding the proper ratio of ingredients and method of manufacturing takes time and it's never gonna be like the original.

 

[scarywood75]

That's false.

The entire process is laid out from A to Z.

I'll look for it later if no one beats me to it.

No, it's protected under a patent, this is not just a legal paper, there's actual info that are not divulged

 

[penewbie]

Think of it like having the ingredients of pre-made muffins without having the quantity for each and manufacturing steps. Yes you could reproduce it, but finding the proper ratio of ingredients and method of manufacturing takes time and it's never gonna be like the original.

I already told you it's false, stop doubling down lol.

 

[scarywood75]

I already told you it's false, stop doubling down lol.

Show it to me then

 

[penewbie]

Show it to me then

Have some patience.

 

[scarywood75]

You really think they'll spending billions without even protecting their R&D? Some information is public, but trust me only things strictly necessary by law. They don't want others to be able to reproduce it and not just from a legal standpoint.

 

[penewbie]

You really think they'll spending billions without even protecting their R&D? Some information is public, but trust me only things strictly necessary by law. They don't want others to be able to reproduce it and not just from a legal standpoint.

Tripling down, lol.

I think at this point you so heavily invested, no amount of proof could even convince you otherwise.

Only time will tell.

 

[scarywood75]

Tripling down, lol.

I think at this point you so heavily invested, no amount of proof could even convince you otherwise.

Only time will tell.

Not true at all, I don't know everything about this and it's possible I'm wrong, this is what I found doing extensive research.

If you think you're right go ahead and provide some proof and if they are valid I of course would be wrong here.

I'm not close minded lol