Average GB Markup

[SmokeySquid]

@SmokeySquid If you’re able to say who you purchased from and were happy with, I’d appreciate it. Taking a lot of mental notes!

Like I said in my previous post, I purchased from amopure and was happy enough. It works like it should and I have two other people researching it without issue. One Tirz and one sema.

I have recently ordered from ASC angel and was happy with that experience as well. They are not the cheapest but it's still light years cheaper than domestic.

I missed out on the SRY promotion thanks to the stupid hurricane but I expect a decent amount of vendors to continue lowering prices on tirz. $200 for 30mg x10 is the cheapest I have personally seen.

 

[AndyPanda]

I’m so unfamiliar with China that I don’t know “who” Tracy is.

It may be better that way! lol. He is with QSC. Products are decent I suppose, but do not ask him any questions or bring up any issues to him unless you are a masochist.

 

[Chizikitide-1977]

Yikes! What is exit scamming? Do they take everybody's money and escape through the exit door? (I kept hearing about some guy Ro*ch when I briefly tried enduring Discord hell.)

Pretty much yeah...

Exit scam - Wikipedia

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Applied specifically to what we do here, what roach did is a prime example. Build trust for a while until you have a large enough customer base, then abruptly leave and take all the money.

I remember reading up on the backgound leading up to the Silk Road bust a few years back. Several of the sites that competed with Silk Road were just elaborate exit scams. I wouldn't be superised if some of the vendors on this site are the same.

 

[MarisWinter]

I’m so unfamiliar with China that I don’t know “who” Tracy is.

Go quickly in Peace.

 

[YoYoFat]

Oh it’s profitable for sure.

She’s a neighborhood mom, I’m kinda appalled that she’s markup her friends that much!

 

[Garbo]

Pretty much yeah...

Exit scam - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Applied specifically to what we do here, what roach did is a prime example. Build trust for a while until you have a large enough customer base, then abruptly leave and take all the money.

I remember reading up on the backgound leading up to the Silk Road bust a few years back. Several of the sites that competed with Silk Road were just elaborate exit scams. I wouldn't be superised if some of the vendors on this site are the same.

We are ripe for the taking, aren't we. Just like the Silk Road customers were. Because these alt-named guys have something I want and need and can't get legitimately.

That's some really interesting food for thought, thank you. If I give my imagination free rein, it would *almost* seem to explain some things one senses in the undercurrents of this culture. It would also explain why Cantides was outraged when she was damned by those she deemed a cabal, hahaha (but seriously).

I will say, no wonder our OG friends here feel compelled to warn us at times that things are not as they seem.

(Although, in some movie with maybe a cool Oceans Eleven or dark The Grifters vibe, it would turn out they warned us only to keep their rep growing and their cover going just long enough for them to take the money and ... exit.)

 

[Garbo]

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I’m in for a Black Friday sale! Never hurts to stock up more

Until it does, lol.

Like when you look at how much reserve supply you now have, you're already in maintenance and don't even need much, and everywhere you look the prices are lower than what you paid just three months ago, never mind six months ago

 

[Garbo]

This seems excessive, to me at least. I would rather find a "reputable" vendor that people have tested recently and just do that. My first China order was from amopure which has a LOT of negative feedback here, but I still don't really regret it. It works and it was cheap. Would I order from them again? Maybe, but I have found vendors that are priced similar that don't have a bunch of negative threads about them that work just as well.


Tracy is the rep for QSC that everyone on here likes to joke about. I don't have experience ordering from them, since I hate crypto, but I do quite enjoy people joking about ordering from them. It feels like an initiation almost when people bring up mean vendors and recommend QSC jokingly

Just fyi, i don't use crypto for my QSC orders (only been two of them), I use Bank of America to send ACH wire transfer to their bank, Citibank. It's not instantaneous but it's fee-free and dependable and QSC is perfectly satisfied.

And though I might recommend QSC to someone, I would NEVER recommend working directly with the notarious but hilarious Tracy. Irene the rep is just fine.

Also, for our new friend @YoYoFat, I would happily recommend working with the lovely @Tuk Angel, representative of ASC (Angel Shanghai) for a good price, good product, and good experience.

 

[SmokeySquid]

Just fyi, i don't use crypto for my QSC orders (only two of them), I use Bank of America to send ACH wire transfer to their bank, Citibank. It's not instantaneous but it's fee-free and dependable and QSC is perfectly satisfied.

And though I might recommend QSC to someone, I would NEVER recommend working directly with the notarious but hilarious Tracy. Irene the rep is just fine.

Also, for our new friend @YoYoFat, I would happily recommend working with the lovely @Tuk Angel, representative of ASC (Angel Shanghai) for a good price, good product, and good experience.

Good to know that I can not only avoid crypto, but also Tracy when ordering from QSC

 

[Ladylaw]

There are plenty of well established GBs out there that have awesome procedures in place to protect the members. My favorites feature three levels of testing. Testing by vendor, testing of random vials by the organizer once the product arrives in country, then finally, member buyers banding together to volunteer to share a vial from their personal stock for testing. These groups also negotiate terms requiring reship if seized or reship if products fail testing. All this with competitive pricing. I’ll keep my GBs thank you very much.

 

[mlke6]

Until it does, lol.

Like when you look at how much reserve supply you now have, you're already in maintenance and don't even need much, and everywhere you look the prices are lower than what you paid just three months ago, never mind six months ago

That's where I'm sitting, the lower prices are killing me.

 

[nurseratchit]

I highly suggest Amopure, especially if you can wait for the inevitable Black Friday Sale, they beat any group buy price I could find on Tirz. Now if your talking about retatrutide, I believe QSC had a recent retatrutide/tirz group buy that was very very compelling like $1.30/mg of ret. I highly highly doubt any group buy you find irl will be able to beat/match the price and reviews/safety of either company.

Watch out for Amo’s $60 shipping fee which will negate most of your savings if you’re only ordering a few kits. Also, when they used to be Amopeptide they were known for high purity but significant underfills. They have also had 2 recent sterility failures from Jano and Peptide Test, their fills were good but a wide deviation between the 29 vials tested in our group. They may or may not give you your money back based on sterility failure as they don’t guarantee it.

They have also told several users that they have recently changed their lyophilization process and ‘resolved’ the stinging issue but who knows if this is true. There does seem to be something different about their process as the Peptide Test lab tech commented “their lyophilized powder across all of those products has a different texture than any of the other GLP-1s that we test. It is fluffy and sticky instead of being a firm “puck”. So, while I agree they have the advantage of easy ordering, their track record just isn’t up to snuff IMO.

I actually did get my Tirz through a very reputable GB for less than Amo’s in August. They can’t compete with current price drops but it is possible. Fortunately, I’m well stocked at the moment so I can try to ignore the urge to hoard at these current prices!

 

[nurseratchit]

Well, I mean, the gal running the one I’m considering is asking for a huge markup. Like if I bought the same kit myself, it would be $310. And she wants $495. She has about 20 of us in the (potential) GB.

And she is probably getting for less than you would since she’s doing a bulk order. Is she offering any guarantees? Is there going to be independent testing of the batch? What guarantees has she gotten from the vendor if the group’s independent testing is below purity standards? What protocols are in place in the event of a customs seizure? Is she even doing any of these things? I honestly don’t know why anyone would want to be a GB organizer as i sounds like a huge hassle if they’re actually doing it right and I don’t really know how profitable it is on a small scale.

 

[nurseratchit]

That's where I'm sitting, the lower prices are killing me.

Just don’t look!!

 

[Galora]

Watch out for Amo’s $60 shipping fee which will negate most of your savings if you’re only ordering a few kits.

I got an email today that they lowered their shipping to $45.

 

[nurseratchit]

I got an email today that they lowered their shipping to $45.

Well, that’s an improvement! My $60 wasn’t even international. Shipped from one of their domestic warehouses. If they fix some of the other issues, I may order from them again. Haven’t tried their tirz yet so don’t know if I fall into the ‘burns’ camp or not.