BAC water is the new hot topic

[Adavis3053]

Everyone by now knows that Hospira BAC water will soon be gone without a prescription. Sneaky Pfizer......I do have 3 Qs for all you peptide gurus:

1) Besides Hospira.....any other reputable BAC water companies?

2) What is the oldest vial of BAC you have used and it was ok? I am sure it lasts more than 28 days

3) Vials come in 30ml. A peptide vial typically uses 2 to 4ml/ I am trying to figure out how to use a whole 30ml vial up and not have it go to waste. I thought of injecting multiple 3ml empty vials with one 30ml vial but was told it is not a good idea as the 3ml vials will "go bad". So, are you all mixing multiple syringes ???

 

[AndyPanda]

Has anyone asked their physician for a prescription on this yet? It’s probably way cheaper than we were paying anyway.

 

[Skidude]

I just look at it as a cost of doing business, and many people are buying expired.
We all have different levels of faith in the water, I use it for easy 45 days at that point I have my moneys worth full or empty and open a new one. If I paid $250 a case (i did not) that would be about $7.50 for a 6 week supply or about $1.25 a week.

It is high, but not too bad for a total cost of doing grey when you add up all costs, and I won't worry again for a few years. I have been known to pay more than $7.50 for a drink at the bar (too many times).

Someone will replace them or they will make their way to the market.



The average cost of a Fiji water bottle in a hotel can range from $8 to $24, depending on the location and hotel. Some hotels may charge even more, such as $21.95 at one hotel according to Tripadvisor. It's always a good idea to check the mini-bar price list or ask the front desk for the current price before purchasing a bottle

or 7.99 for a liter on amazon

 

[ZippityDooDah]

It is indeed becoming a popular issue and topic (and I should probably turn off the swear filter for Hospira despite the fact that it makes me chuckle and is rather apropos).

The cynic in me says we only have ourselves to blame for giving these retailers too much publicity and bombarding them with orders every time there's a hint of disruption in availability.

BAC water has "always" required a prescription. Because it ultimately is just highly purified water with a spritz of benzyl alcohol, most of the medical supply houses simply turned a blind eye to the prescription requirement, likely assuming that the chances of enforcement action was slim to none.

I still suspect the main suppliers/distributors are not too worried about the FDA and/or whoever licenses them at the state and local level going after them for selling it without a prescription. However if it is indeed true that Pfizer is clamping down on the prescription requirement I'm inclined to believe it's at the behest of Novo and Lilly and not their own "concern" over people "abusing" their fancy alcohol water that they sell for $500+ a gallon.

I think in the end we're all better off just becoming more comfortable with the idea of finding reliable Chinese sources for BAC with the most consistent pH, etc. or simply making our own. For all of the current GLP-1's except cag, I'm personally not even too concerned if the pH is a tad outside the "ideal" range (especially when you consider how many people are using the garbage waters sold on Amazon and report back that it's fine). Frankly if all of us just start including some decent pH test strips or a meter as part of our collection of supplies, there's really little reason to keep playing this game with Hospira/Pfizer and just do the same thing we do with our magic vials of mystery powder and trust that some of the Chinese will get it dialed in pretty well and for a fraction of the price.

Personally, I'm still working through vials of BAC that expired in 2023. And I use every one of them until they're completely empty which right now takes around 4 months. My risk exposure profile may not be the same as anyone else's, so don't follow my lead and figure out what's best for your specific situation and comfort level.