Bad batch or wrong BAC?

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I accidentally got hospira green cap water - "30mL BA NaCl Diluent Solution is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water containing .9% (9mg/mL) Benzyl Alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative and .9% (9mg/mL) of Sodium Chloride (NaCl) as an isotonic buffer in a Multi-Dose Vial (MDV)"

Can this be used to reconstitute reta? I just tried my first vial (15mg with black cap) and it's cloudy, though it seems this might be a known bad batch? Or is it the water?
 

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jperiod said:
I accidentally got hospira green cap water - "30mL BA NaCl Diluent Solution is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water containing .9% (9mg/mL) Benzyl Alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative and .9% (9mg/mL) of Sodium Chloride (NaCl) as an isotonic buffer in a Multi-Dose Vial (MDV)"

Can this be used to reconstitute reta? I just tried my first vial (15mg with black cap) and it's cloudy, though it seems this might be a known bad batch? Or is it the water?
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It'll most likely be the water. It'll sting a bit if you pin it.
 
As you have seen the hard way, reta is prone to cloudy recon with saline BAC.

But you can use saline BAC for tirz, sema, and some other peptides.

With enough bad luck, It's possible you also have a bad batch of R15 with TFA salt issues. But more likely is the saline BAC as the issue, as it is well established to not use saline BAC for reta:

zpped said:
Starting off with, I am not a chemist. But it's been pointed out by others in the community that are deeply involved in research chemistry that Reta is not compatible with saline. This has been shown through experimentation as well.

It's not an issue with tirz or sema.
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jperiod said:
I accidentally got hospira green cap water - "30mL BA NaCl Diluent Solution is a sterile, nonpyrogenic preparation of water containing .9% (9mg/mL) Benzyl Alcohol as a bacteriostatic preservative and .9% (9mg/mL) of Sodium Chloride (NaCl) as an isotonic buffer in a Multi-Dose Vial (MDV)"

Can this be used to reconstitute reta? I just tried my first vial (15mg with black cap) and it's cloudy, though it seems this might be a known bad batch? Or is it the water?
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I have that same Reta and it did the same thing. I used hospira bac and mine was cloudy with little particles that would dissolve. I put 1 unit of sodium bicarbonate and it cleared it right up. But, with that being said I’m not injecting myself with it. So my advice is try regular bac and see if that makes a difference.
 
Yeah, it could be both issues, which would be quite unfortunate.

Personally, I am avoiding buying R10, R15, or R20 from any vendor. I just bought R30, and I don't think I will ever buy anything smaller than that. I did recently receive R10 from a no-name vendor and that reconned fine.

If you are dying of curiosity and don't have any regular BAC, maybe a local independent/compounding pharmacy may have some Hospira BAC for sale, if they bend the rules regarding a prescription? (I assume that would be unlikely, at least without a pre-existing relationship. And they would know you are using it for Chinese peptides, unless you have some excuse of adding BAC to your compounded tirz or Zepbound.)

Tirz with saline BAC on the left (normal/clear recon). Reta with saline BAC on the right (precipitated/cloudy recon):

(posted by @GLP1Pharmacist last June
https://glp1forum.com/threads/bacteriostatic-vs-sodium-chloride-with-retatrutide-pics-included.4264)

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On Reddit, cloudy R20 from using saline BAC:

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Calm Logic said:
Personally, I am avoiding buying R10, R15, or R20 from any vendor. I just bought R30, and I don't think I will ever buy anything smaller than that. I did recently receive R10 from a no-name vendor and that reconned fine.
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Just reconned a 40mg vial of Reta with Hospira and it came out cloudy. It tested well with freedom in terms of purity - do you think this is a TFA Salt issue? I ran it through a filter and it came out clear. Part of me wants to pin it, the other part of me doesn't want a Total Recall 3rd boob.
 
LabRatBarbie said:
I have that same Reta and it did the same thing. I used hospira bac and mine was cloudy with little particles that would dissolve. I put 1 unit of sodium bicarbonate and it cleared it right up. But, with that being said I’m not injecting myself with it. So my advice is try regular bac and see if that makes a difference.
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Is this BAC ok for Reta?

Bill
 

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Whiynot20026 said:
Here it is. A friend uses it for his Reta and recommended it to me.

Bill

H20 0.9% Benzyl Alcohol |
51ml Plastic Vial
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Youre fine. Everyone insists on hospira only cuz last year a bunch of other brands (even American brands failed testing) i think like 7 outta 10.... a year later with the publicity you can bet they tightened it up. Your photo wasnt on the list anyway. Bac is hard to mess up... i had 1 issue in 9 years otherwise all good.
 
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Is this BAC ok for Reta?

Bill
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That BAC looks sketchy.

Here's a vid of one of my Amazon BAC purchases.

I already thought I saw some debris when I first got the vials so I got suspicious and didn't use any of it. Roughly 2 weeks later I saw these white strings floating in the water.
Needles to say that was the last BAC from Amazon (or any vendor other than Pfizer/Hospira)

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/-CLyjRpvj2k


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You can use Bac water for Reta - I've been pinning away for years using bac. I think your bac is fine. Give it a try and see what happens... as my husband would say, "God hates cowards."

If it's cloudy with floaters chances are you have a bad batch of Reta. Saline bac w/ sodium chloride you cannot use, look above at the pics. The bac water you have looks just fine. Hospira is preferable but use what you have.
 
ContainHer said:
You can use Bac water for Reta - I've been pinning away for years using bac. I think your bac is fine. Give it a try and see what happens... as my husband would say, "God hates cowards."

If it's cloudy with floaters chances are you have a bad batch of Reta. Saline bac w/ sodium chloride you cannot use, look above at the pics. The bac water you have looks just fine. Hospira is preferable but use what you have.
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Thank you. I’m new obviously. Is getting the small viles of BAC from the sellers advisable. Is there a plus or minus to that. I didn’t even know the small sealed viles of BAC where a thing.

Bill
 
Whiynot20026 said:
Is this BAC ok for Reta?

Bill
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I have used it and still have two bottles from an Amazon 4-pack. It was one of 2-3 Amazon Bacs that passed testing (pH and Benzyl %).

Never failed me and it was under $5 per 31ml bottle.

Vial of R30 below reconned w/1.5ml of Lab 1 Research H2O.
 

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ContainHer said:
Just reconned a 40mg vial of Reta with Hospira and it came out cloudy. It tested well with freedom in terms of purity - do you think this is a TFA Salt issue? I ran it through a filter and it came out clear. Part of me wants to pin it, the other part of me doesn't want a Total Recall 3rd boob.
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Let’s not rush to judgment on the Total Recall “extra”…You don’t know what you don’t know 😂
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
I have used it and still have two bottles from an Amazon 4-pack. It was one of 2-3 Amazon Bacs that passed testing (pH and Benzyl %).

Never failed me and it was under $5 per 31ml bottle.

Vial of R30 below reconned w/1.5ml of Lab 1 Research H2O.
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Amazon doesn’t. Have it anymore. I had to buy direct and it cost 2x what you paid. Damn.

Bill
 
WeezinDaJuice said:
Yeah, I know, and started a thread regarding it a few weeks ago. I even reached out to the Mfgr who seemed to think they would be back on Amazon, but nothing yet.
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I hope you don’t mind me torching you with questions. But I really appreciate your experience. Does BAC water do better refrigerated? IsBAC water light sensitive and how long does it last once you start using the BAC water?

Bill
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Youre fine. Everyone insists on hospira only cuz last year a bunch of other brands (even American brands failed testing) i think like 7 outta 10.... a year later with the publicity you can bet they tightened it up. Your photo wasnt on the list anyway. Bac is hard to mess up... i had 1 issue in 9 years otherwise all good.
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Lab1/Research H2O made the grade here
 

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Whiynot20026 said:
I hope you don’t mind me torching you with questions. But I really appreciate your experience. Does BAC water do better refrigerated? IsBAC water light sensitive and how long does it last once you start using the BAC water?

Bill
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Keep it at room temperature in the dark and you should be fine. Just use best practices with 70% rubbing alcohol before and after drawing from the bottle (one needle=one insertion, no multi-tasking) and it should last a couple months from first use.
 
I've tested a few pep supplier's bac. I see PH range all over the map.Image (6).webp
 
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