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Cain @NexaPh comes through

geoguy78 said:
I'll never use them again. I've got two more kits of their Black Friday T30 and when that's gone sometime next year, I'll probably be able to get tirz at a fraction of what I paid PGB. They are no longer a "group buy", they cost a fortune, their selection is limited, their refund policy is horrible (must be a repeat customer? Wtf!), and they insist on only taking crypto payments via Tron, Solana or Bitcoin (which means I'm limited to Bitcoin as I use Coinbase Wallet). Big fat future nope for me.
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Does that mean that if their product tests lower (Jano) they won't replace/refund unless you're a repeat customer?
If so, thanks for sharing this
 
StonePny said:
Does that mean that if their product tests lower (Jano) they won't replace/refund unless you're a repeat customer?
If so, thanks for sharing this
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The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.
 

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exploitedworkerbee said:
The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.
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Well, with that they've just removed the justification for paying more for what they have.
 
exploitedworkerbee said:
The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.
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Although, after reading the policy, I do wonder if this is a preventive because there are several vial re-sellers that carry and sell PGB. If they've had something stored in bad conditions I don't know if someone might try to test a vial and try to get credit for a whole kit they never bought.
I can't quite see a single vial buyer spending the money to test, though.
 
zpped said:
It's SO much more than that. I don't have time to write a novel, but there are multiple 20+ page threads about it around here.
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I went looking and those seem to be buried far enough that without a better search term that I can think of I can't find it. I have seen several mentions that Nexaph is somehow bad, but no one ever says anything further.

Since I buy from him can you please elaborate as far as the products themselves? Is the stuff weak, fake or in some way dangerous? I really don't care about the prices TBH. I can afford the inflated prices for the convenience that I get.
 
keangkong said:
For my most recent order, I couldn’t justify the high prices charged by PGB and the even higher prices charged by Cain. Amo’s was still down. I figured I had to order from SSA or SRY; I chose SRY mainly because I’ve purchased the most stuff from them before.
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Any concern from your side on SRY's history? Have you ordered from SSA? My personal experience with SSA, especially their US warehouse, has been quite pleasant, thankfully.
 
StonePny said:
Although, after reading the policy, I do wonder if this is a preventive because there are several vial re-sellers that carry and sell PGB. If they've had something stored in bad conditions I don't know if someone might try to test a vial and try to get credit for a whole kit they never bought.
I can't quite see a single vial buyer spending the money to test, though.
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I’m sure we could come up with a hundred scenarios where this gives pgb some sort of protection from something, but at the end of the day what we do know for sure is it is a terrible policy for customers which is all I’m concerned about.
 
Thread said Nexaph.... is uncle Cain still with our Parish? I go back and forth with him and 3 other vendors...
 
catdog said:
Any concern from your side on SRY's history? Have you ordered from SSA? My personal experience with SSA, especially their US warehouse, has been quite pleasant, thankfully.
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My personal experience with SRY has been great. Does SRY have some somewhat questionable stuff in their history? Yes. However, much of that stuff is due to the great scrutiny that SRY is under along with SRY's stupid initial reactions to incidents. It seems to me that folks have been quite overly critical of SRY just like I used to read incessant rants against Cain. Amo/BFF/Binh and PGB do not have similar questionable stuff as does SRY. Arguably SSA has less of that stuff recently, however, it seems to me that SRY has always eventually made things right. I did wonder afterwards whether I should have ordered from SSA instead of SRY. I should point out that the one time that I used SSA, SSA was fine. The only place I'll trash is QSC since Tracy still hasn't delivered my order from early January. My recommendation if someone wants a recommendation as to who to buy from is to buy from someone that you hear about a great deal and that gets tested regularly. Inevitably you will hear some bad things about that vendor. Listen to the stuff, but expect some negative things. I do suspect Amo and PGB are more dependable than most of the others, but they are quite pricey. Cain is probably there in dependability too; I'm going off what I have heard from users as since I have never personally ordered from Cain. I also once ordered from a pricey domestic vendor whose name eludes me that is supposed to have an excellent reputation despite charging ridiculous prices for single vials.
 
keangkong said:
My personal experience with SRY has been great. Does SRY have some somewhat questionable stuff in their history? Yes. However, much of that stuff is due to the great scrutiny that SRY is under along with SRY's stupid initial reactions to incidents. It seems to me that folks have been quite overly critical of SRY just like I used to read incessant rants against Cain. Amo/BFF/Binh and PGB do not have similar questionable stuff as does SRY. Arguably SSA has less of that stuff recently, however, it seems to me that SRY has always eventually made things right. I did wonder afterwards whether I should have ordered from SSA instead of SRY. I should point out that the one time that I used SSA, SSA was fine. The only place I'll trash is QSC since Tracy still hasn't delivered my order from early January. My recommendation if someone wants a recommendation as to who to buy from is to buy from someone that you hear about a great deal and that gets tested regularly. Inevitably you will hear some bad things about that vendor. Listen to the stuff, but expect some negative things. I do suspect Amo and PGB are more dependable than most of the others, but they are quite pricey. Cain is probably there in dependability too; I'm going off what I have heard from users as since I have never personally ordered from Cain. I also once ordered from a pricey domestic vendor whose name eludes me that is supposed to have an excellent reputation despite charging ridiculous prices for single vials.
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Hm good to know. Maybe I should swing an order with SRY
 
Airborne Daddy said:
I balked at 200 for t30 at amino Lair then seen Cains at like 340 or 380.... soccer moms with a 600k house pay that, not this blue collar man.... bruh sold out!
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Lmao and surprise surprise, they have now begun limiting CC options. I said this would become an issue months ago. And now their soccer mom customer base is struggling to figure out how they will pay for peps with crypto being the primary method. 1757016368881.png
 
catdog said:
Lmao and surprise surprise, they have now begun limiting CC options. I said this would become an issue months ago. And now their soccer mom customer base is struggling to figure out how they will pay for peps with crypto being the primary method. View attachment 8549
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Shame. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.
 
I’ve bought from them without issue when I needed something quick but Cain always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason
 
Peotidethrowaway said:
I’ve bought from them without issue when I needed something quick but Cain always rubbed me the wrong way for some reason
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He didn't exactly start out well, pretending he was based out of Shanghai when he's actually a US-based reseller..... And now he's basically running a group buy while pretending to be a vendor, considering the only affordable product he sells is via presale. I guess he rubs me the wrong way too come to think of it.
 
catdog said:
Lmao and surprise surprise, they have now begun limiting CC options. I said this would become an issue months ago. And now their soccer mom customer base is struggling to figure out how they will pay for peps with crypto being the primary method. View attachment 8549
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I have no doubt that arrangements can be made with past customers who DIDN'T steal from them. Its also likely that this could become the new normal of prepaying far enough in advance that chargebacks aren't possible anymore. But don't worry, us "soccer moms" will do just fine even if we do need to muck around with crypto.

I also find it a bit weird that many people talk bad about nexaph but never go into details. When I ask directly all I get is silence or a reference to other threads. Ones that I can't find when I have gone looking for them.
 
catdog said:
Lmao and surprise surprise, they have now begun limiting CC options. I said this would become an issue months ago. And now their soccer mom customer base is struggling to figure out how they will pay for peps with crypto being the primary method. View attachment 8549
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Karen never got a thank you card with her order and a follow up survey about her satisfaction level....
 
To me, the worst of Nexaph was letting horribly-melted NAD+ out the door, only to offer certain people refunds (and usually only partial refunds, it seemed).
 
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MsGizmo said:
Or the gym bros intentionally stole from Cain. You want to make this into a gender war I can play too.
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Why Ms. G.... Did you assume all soccer Moms are female? Never heard of male Karen's? I don't mind bestie. The gym bruhs just pin whatever they get and never initiate a charge back. Luv you.
 
MsGizmo said:
I have no doubt that arrangements can be made with past customers who DIDN'T steal from them. Its also likely that this could become the new normal of prepaying far enough in advance that chargebacks aren't possible anymore. But don't worry, us "soccer moms" will do just fine even if we do need to muck around with crypto.

I also find it a bit weird that many people talk bad about nexaph but never go into details. When I ask directly all I get is silence or a reference to other threads. Ones that I can't find when I have gone looking for them.
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Ordered thrice with him. Get my quality stuff in 48hrs. Paid a lil more but now it's double. They went tik/tok and mainstream kinda and don't post here often. Their stuff comes from china and he picks colors and does his own packaging and resells. Theres no factory in the US. I'll pay max 120 for t30 not 360 or whatever. So basically cost and forgetting his peeps.

Whatever it's worth I'd talk you through a basic bitcoin purchase cuz I'm at a beginner level and wish to coexist.
 
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MsGizmo said:
I also find it a bit weird that many people talk bad about nexaph but never go into details. When I ask directly all I get is silence or a reference to other threads. Ones that I can't find when I have gone looking for them.
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I gave two reasons in my post above. He started out pretending to be something he's not, and now he's pretending to be something else that he's not. Others that have actually done business with him can list other complaints.
 
If people are STEALING from him, of course his prices will go up.

And yes we KNOW the stuff comes from china. We KNOW the prices are inflated. They are inflated for the added services .. like the repackaging, being able to use a CC, US shipping (which is more expensive) testing already done. We pay extra for the convenience. You don't want to pay? So don't. Why do you care so much about what I, and others, are willing to pay?

His "peeps?" .. dude its a business. He's not your homie. Certainly not because you bought from him an astounding 3 times. The business, BTW, is illegal and operating in the US. He's taking more risks and has higher costs than the businesses in China. You don't think he should be paid for that? GTFO.

But then I shouldn't be surprised, I have seen you dudes clamoring for discounts from SSA and one dude mad that he failed to "negotiate" with them. Didn't see any "soccer moms" on there complaining about what they pay.
 
geoguy78 said:
I gave two reasons in my post above. He started out pretending to be something he's not, and now he's pretending to be something else that he's not. Others that have actually done business with him can list other complaints.
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Um sure dude. He resells things from China. How dare he! Sorta like every other retailer in the country. Did you think that he was making the stuff on his own in a garage somewhere in the US breaking bad style and mad that he's not?
 
MsGizmo said:
If people are STEALING from him, of course his prices will go up.

And yes we KNOW the stuff comes from china. We KNOW the prices are inflated. They are inflated for the added services .. like the repackaging, being able to use a CC, US shipping (which is more expensive) testing already done. We pay extra for the convenience. You don't want to pay? So don't. Why do you care so much about what I, and others, are willing to pay?

His "peeps?" .. dude its a business. He's not your homie. Certainly not because you bought from him an astounding 3 times. The business, BTW, is illegal and operating in the US. He's taking more risks and has higher costs than the businesses in China. You don't think he should be paid for that? GTFO.

But then I shouldn't be surprised, I have seen you dudes clamoring for discounts from SSA and one dude mad that he failed to "negotiate" with them. Didn't see any "soccer moms" on there complaining about what they pay.
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Take ur meds mama. I'm not a gym bruh. I run a lil every other summer so I chase the bride around the kitchen and look half decent when I do. I'm mid 50's and apparently you hate me but I got nawthin but love. Dig ur sassiness though.
 
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MsGizmo said:
Um sure dude. He resells things from China. How dare he! Sorta like every other retailer in the country. Did you think that he was making the stuff on his own in a garage somewhere in the US breaking bad style and mad that he's not?
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Hey right on brah. You keep doin' whatcha doin' homeslice. Glad Cain be keepin' it real 4 ya yo! Dude, absolutely nothing wrong with giving your paper to Cain if he's got the goods you want and the price is right. But I'll be giving mine to someone else. Dude.
 
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