Cain @NexaPh comes through

[StonePny]

I'll never use them again. I've got two more kits of their Black Friday T30 and when that's gone sometime next year, I'll probably be able to get tirz at a fraction of what I paid PGB. They are no longer a "group buy", they cost a fortune, their selection is limited, their refund policy is horrible (must be a repeat customer? Wtf!), and they insist on only taking crypto payments via Tron, Solana or Bitcoin (which means I'm limited to Bitcoin as I use Coinbase Wallet). Big fat future nope for me.

Does that mean that if their product tests lower (Jano) they won't replace/refund unless you're a repeat customer?
If so, thanks for sharing this

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Does that mean that if their product tests lower (Jano) they won't replace/refund unless you're a repeat customer?
If so, thanks for sharing this

The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.

 

[StonePny]

The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.

Well, with that they've just removed the justification for paying more for what they have.

 

[StonePny]

The policy is attached. The highlight is that if you get your vials tested independently and they fail, you might get a 50% discount on a future order at jlo’s discretion if you are a 3-time customer. If you’re not a 3x customer, tough luck then. Only the person who had the dud result might get compensation in the form of store credit, everyone else with that batch is also out of luck. Absolutely a garbage policy.

Although, after reading the policy, I do wonder if this is a preventive because there are several vial re-sellers that carry and sell PGB. If they've had something stored in bad conditions I don't know if someone might try to test a vial and try to get credit for a whole kit they never bought.
I can't quite see a single vial buyer spending the money to test, though.

 

[MsGizmo]

It's SO much more than that. I don't have time to write a novel, but there are multiple 20+ page threads about it around here.

I went looking and those seem to be buried far enough that without a better search term that I can think of I can't find it. I have seen several mentions that Nexaph is somehow bad, but no one ever says anything further.

Since I buy from him can you please elaborate as far as the products themselves? Is the stuff weak, fake or in some way dangerous? I really don't care about the prices TBH. I can afford the inflated prices for the convenience that I get.

 

[catdog]

For my most recent order, I couldn’t justify the high prices charged by PGB and the even higher prices charged by Cain. Amo’s was still down. I figured I had to order from SSA or SRY; I chose SRY mainly because I’ve purchased the most stuff from them before.

Any concern from your side on SRY's history? Have you ordered from SSA? My personal experience with SSA, especially their US warehouse, has been quite pleasant, thankfully.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Although, after reading the policy, I do wonder if this is a preventive because there are several vial re-sellers that carry and sell PGB. If they've had something stored in bad conditions I don't know if someone might try to test a vial and try to get credit for a whole kit they never bought.
I can't quite see a single vial buyer spending the money to test, though.

I’m sure we could come up with a hundred scenarios where this gives pgb some sort of protection from something, but at the end of the day what we do know for sure is it is a terrible policy for customers which is all I’m concerned about.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Thread said Nexaph.... is uncle Cain still with our Parish? I go back and forth with him and 3 other vendors...

 

[keangkong]

Any concern from your side on SRY's history? Have you ordered from SSA? My personal experience with SSA, especially their US warehouse, has been quite pleasant, thankfully.

My personal experience with SRY has been great. Does SRY have some somewhat questionable stuff in their history? Yes. However, much of that stuff is due to the great scrutiny that SRY is under along with SRY's stupid initial reactions to incidents. It seems to me that folks have been quite overly critical of SRY just like I used to read incessant rants against Cain. Amo/BFF/Binh and PGB do not have similar questionable stuff as does SRY. Arguably SSA has less of that stuff recently, however, it seems to me that SRY has always eventually made things right. I did wonder afterwards whether I should have ordered from SSA instead of SRY. I should point out that the one time that I used SSA, SSA was fine. The only place I'll trash is QSC since Tracy still hasn't delivered my order from early January. My recommendation if someone wants a recommendation as to who to buy from is to buy from someone that you hear about a great deal and that gets tested regularly. Inevitably you will hear some bad things about that vendor. Listen to the stuff, but expect some negative things. I do suspect Amo and PGB are more dependable than most of the others, but they are quite pricey. Cain is probably there in dependability too; I'm going off what I have heard from users as since I have never personally ordered from Cain. I also once ordered from a pricey domestic vendor whose name eludes me that is supposed to have an excellent reputation despite charging ridiculous prices for single vials.

 

[catdog]

My personal experience with SRY has been great. Does SRY have some somewhat questionable stuff in their history? Yes. However, much of that stuff is due to the great scrutiny that SRY is under along with SRY's stupid initial reactions to incidents. It seems to me that folks have been quite overly critical of SRY just like I used to read incessant rants against Cain. Amo/BFF/Binh and PGB do not have similar questionable stuff as does SRY. Arguably SSA has less of that stuff recently, however, it seems to me that SRY has always eventually made things right. I did wonder afterwards whether I should have ordered from SSA instead of SRY. I should point out that the one time that I used SSA, SSA was fine. The only place I'll trash is QSC since Tracy still hasn't delivered my order from early January. My recommendation if someone wants a recommendation as to who to buy from is to buy from someone that you hear about a great deal and that gets tested regularly. Inevitably you will hear some bad things about that vendor. Listen to the stuff, but expect some negative things. I do suspect Amo and PGB are more dependable than most of the others, but they are quite pricey. Cain is probably there in dependability too; I'm going off what I have heard from users as since I have never personally ordered from Cain. I also once ordered from a pricey domestic vendor whose name eludes me that is supposed to have an excellent reputation despite charging ridiculous prices for single vials.

Hm good to know. Maybe I should swing an order with SRY

 

[BooneDonk]

Hm good to know. Maybe I should swing an order with SRY

Not a bad place to trade with.

 

[catdog]

Not a bad place to trade with.

Yeah. Their history is off putting but we shall see.

 

[BooneDonk]

Yeah. Their history is off putting but we shall see.

I’ve been working to get off pudding myself.

I kid, but trust then verify. Testing is cheaper than my insurance deductible!