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Considering Survodutide

G Vice said:
I have a higher resting HR since being on Reta. I can’t feel it, but I do measure it with my Omron Blood Pressure machine most mornings.

After sitting at my computer for a solid 15 minutes, I use my BP machine to get truly resting values.

Typical BP 104/60s - 108/60s
Typical HR 87-92

My pre-pep resting HRs were always 60-80.
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Same, but sometimes my BP is even lower and my HR is higher, like high 90's/high 50's and 95bpm.
 
G Vice said:
I have a higher resting HR since being on Reta. I can’t feel it, but I do measure it with my Omron Blood Pressure machine most mornings.

After sitting at my computer for a solid 15 minutes, I use my BP machine to get truly resting values.

Typical BP 104/60s - 108/60s
Typical HR 87-92

My pre-pep resting HRs were always 60-80.
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Wow. I kinda feel blessed. My b/p has always been low, but it’s dropped since being on Reta. And my heart rate has gone from 58 to 64. 72 if I’m stressed.
 
Calm Logic said:
That reminds me of the theory that people with lower BPs will have greater HR increase.
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Anecdotally my BP has always been low, even overweight, and my rhr went from 95-100 on sema to resting 110-120 depending on how long ago my dose was. It's since gone down to 105-110, and keeps trending down. Still haven't gotten that blood pressure cuff everyone keeps telling me to get though.
 
Calm Logic said:
PGB now has survo back in stock. 12-mg kit for $225 plus shipping. According to their Jano test done a couple days ago, average of three tested vials was 13.07 mg and 99.283% purity.
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That’s a good price. I can’t remember their shipping tier pricing but I think you’d have to pay the lower shippigg by cost unless you got two

I think that’s what I paid for my 13mg kits in a GB. Tested to about 15 but took a couple months vs pgb I’d literally get it next day or the day after that

I 1.5x my dose this week. I’m up to about 3.6. That’s setting well so I’ll go to 4.8 in a couple more weeks. Probably 3. Unless I misremember that was the biggest dose in the study, or close to
 
Peotidethrowaway said:
That’s a good price. I can’t remember their shipping tier pricing but I think you’d have to pay the lower shippigg by cost unless you got two
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Shipping costs for PGB:

Less than $200 = $40

$200 but less than $300 = $20

$300 or more = $0 – Free shipping
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Some of the single-vial sellers also have good prices for trying survo (like $27 for 10 mg and $35 for 12 mg), and at least a couple GBs may still have leftover, in-stock survo kits.
 
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Calm Logic said:
Shipping costs for PGB:



Some of the single-vial sellers also have good prices for survo, and at least a couple GBs may still have leftover, in-stock survo kits.
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I think j5 has some still. I’m sitting on 450mg so I’m set probably until maintenance, since I’ve only got about 15lb to go

Survo might be a good maintenance choice, I haven’t really thought on it much yet
 
Survo has really gotten popular. I remember when @Super Trips was a voice in the darkness talking about stacking with survo.

Peotidethrowaway said:
I think j5 has some still.
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Confirmed. They have 6 mg and 12 mg kits in stock, with more overfill than PGB's 12 mg (basically 13 mg at PGB vs 16 mg at J5). Same price, so a better deal than PGB.

@Amino Lair has good prices on domestic survo kits too ($210 for 10 mg), awaiting test results. Only $5 per kit for shipping, and they ship the same day.
 
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Calm Logic said:
Survo has really gotten popular. I remember when @Super Trips was a voice in the darkness talking about stacking with survo.



Confirmed. They have 6 mg and 12 mg kits in stock, with more overfill than PGB's 12 mg (basically 13 mg at PGB vs 16 mg at J5). Same price, so a better deal than PGB.

@Amino Lair has good prices on domestic survo kits too ($210 for 10 mg), awaiting test results. Only $5 per kit for shipping, and they ship the same day.
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For a couple bucks j5 will take PayPal too for the crypto adverse
 
StonePny said:
Uther has a special right now, I think it's $197 for 10mg, from US warehouse.
10mg is useful, since you start at such low doses. Just got mine today from a group buy.
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Great find too. And there is a discount for additional kits, as stated at the Uther website (utherpep).

The test results:

 
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Calm Logic said:
Great find too. And there is a discount for additional kits, as stated at the Uther website (utherpep).

The test results:

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Yes! And just know I found the GB hippies pretty funny 😄 💜 I have to say, you find yourself doing things on this 'journey' you wouldn't have 2 months ago.

I held GB's (and still somewhat) in high skepticism, BUT this was from someone I've been observing doing them, and I got mine FASTER than an order I'd done myself from Uther in the past. And my very good price includes extra testing in addition to Uther's 1 test from that batch.

More importantly: because Survo is only re surfacing, there are not many testing groups at all. And I found out in my deep dive that Jano charges more for Survo testing ($400).
 
J5 is blowing out the last of their survo and whatever doesn’t sell is going to get sent off to another reseller in like a week. FYI
He has a new order form I can probably share if anyone wants. Pm me I guess

Edit I verified with Johnny it’s ok to share the form. If you place an order and aren’t on his server he’ll send you an invite he says.

Here’s the testing on the 12mg
It’s $225 on the current form with free shipping if you choose usps 🤷‍♂️

I don’t get anything out of it just trying to help Johnny out. I like how he operates so I’d like to see him stick around so I can continue to buy off him lol
 
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Calm Logic said:
Survo has really gotten popular. I remember when @Super Trips was a voice in the darkness talking about stacking with survo.



Confirmed. They have 6 mg and 12 mg kits in stock, with more overfill than PGB's 12 mg (basically 13 mg at PGB vs 16 mg at J5). Same price, so a better deal than PGB.

@Amino Lair has good prices on domestic survo kits too ($210 for 10 mg), awaiting test results. Only $5 per kit for shipping, and they ship the same day.
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Who is J5..?
 
Peotidethrowaway said:
J5 is blowing out the last of their survo and whatever doesn’t sell is going to get sent off to another reseller in like a week. FYI
He has a new order form I can probably share if anyone wants. Pm me I guess

Edit I verified with Johnny it’s ok to share the form. If you place an order and aren’t on his server he’ll send you an invite he says.

Here’s the testing on the 12mg
It’s $225 on the current form with free shipping if you choose usps 🤷‍♂️

I don’t get anything out of it just trying to help Johnny out. I like how he operates so I’d like to see him stick around so I can continue to buy off him lol
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I don’t get anything out of it just trying to help Johnny out. I like how he operates so I’d like to see him stick around so I can continue to buy off him lol

Yeah, same here. I got 5 of those Survo12 kits and have started using it already. It lives up to it's Jano results (strong stuff!).
 
rsmith said:
I don’t get anything out of it just trying to help Johnny out. I like how he operates so I’d like to see him stick around so I can continue to buy off him lol

Yeah, same here. I got 5 of those Survo12 kits and have started using it already. It lives up to it's Jano results (strong stuff!).
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Only got two. I should have got more. I’m working through some pgb survo I picked up so it’ll be awhile before I hit johnnys
 
Peotidethrowaway said:
Only got two. I should have got more. I’m working through some pgb survo I picked up so it’ll be awhile before I hit johnnys
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The 2 reasons I loaded up on Survo are because I have a freezer full of Tirz and am basically on a "ghetto reta" protocol for now. Additionally, I'm going the Survo route for now because the glucagon component is milder and less prone to arrhythmias and big jumps in HR of up to 20 BPM noted for higher dose Reta (anecdotally, I'm increasingly seeing this side effect mentioned as reason for discontinuing Reta).

See also:

the-incretins.beehiiv.com

A Hormone Reformed: The Rise of Glucagon Agonists

The next revolution in medicine arrives in 2026
the-incretins.beehiiv.com the-incretins.beehiiv.com

(see also Supplementary Appendix)
 
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