Current thoughts on cagri and Alzheimer's?

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So where do we stand on the possibility of cagri causing Alzheimer's and other negative long term affects? I've only been able to find a post about a post and Google tells me nothing. Any links I can read?
 
So where do we stand on the possibility of cagri causing Alzheimer's and other negative long term affects? I've only been able to find a post about a post and Google tells me nothing. Any links I can read?
It is being researched to treat Alzheimer’s in addition to diabetes and obesity.


I recently ordered a 10mg kit from SRY, because I am willing to take the risk and have not seen anything other than conjecture on here and another forum that discusses the whole brain/blood barrier drama. That drama was blown out of proportion by non-experts. Nobody has anything solid to support their claims.

Now, none of us that I am aware of have a PhD in Pharmacology or Biochemistry, especially myself. We are all taking risks with a lot of these peptides. Some have not even had in depth studies conducted in humans. I think this is no more dangerous than other substances we are putting into our bodies that actually have evidence of strong negative side effects. For example, the HGH and GHRH peptides that can accelerate tumor growth.
 
The concern might be around fibrils/oligomers.

If so, we've got a few threads on here but nothing definitive. We were waiting to see what the deal was with the pH on the single chamber cagrisema pen, but I don't think we've had any news there in a while.
 
It is being researched to treat Alzheimer’s in addition to diabetes and obesity.

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Now, none of us that I am aware of have a PhD in Pharmacology or Biochemistry, especially myself. We are all taking risks with a lot of these peptides. Some have not even had in depth studies conducted in humans. I think this is no more dangerous than other substances we are putting into our bodies that actually have evidence of strong negative side effects. For example, the HGH and GHRH peptides that can accelerate tumor growth.

I don't think you need a PhD to figure out that Cagrilintide is not the drug they're testing in your citation. Reading comprehension might be helpful, however.

Pramlintide and cagrilintide are different, though they both relate to amylin, a hormone involved in glucose control and appetite regulation

Pramlintide isn't Cagrilintide. Pramlintide is FDA approved. Cagrilintide is not.

The question shouldn't be "does cagri cause Alzheimer's?". The question should be is black market Cagri as safe as the product in FDA trials?

Who's to say black market Cagri has more or less of a propensity to tangle and turn into fibrils and oligomers than the real trial drug?
 
Can we stop this feud? We are here to support each other. Seeing members calling each other names across multiple threads is not exactly ideal.
 
Can we stop this feud? We are here to support each other. Seeing members calling each other names across multiple threads is not exactly ideal.
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So where do we stand on the possibility of cagri causing Alzheimer's and other negative long term affects? I've only been able to find a post about a post and Google tells me nothing. Any links I can read?

If you really want to read the FUD about oligomers and fibrils... Read this thread.


SecretWeapon states that "1. Almost every single amylin analogue fibrillated at pH 7.5 (including cagrilintide). The only one that didn't was rejected for low potency."

pH 7.5 is neutral and around our body's pH.

So my question is, even if you tweak the reconstituted vial's pH to be acidic (4), was the product prepared in a manner where fibrillation did not take place? In other words, did your upstanding, totally honest, not going to screw you, I swear, Chinese chemist prepare the solution in an environment that was in the acidic pH range?

I believe the oligomers and fibrils aren't just a concern for the human brain. There are other health related concerns..

I'll let you make your own conclusion on the safety of black market Cagrilintide. The jump to Alzheimers is a long one since it's generally progresses slowly and later in life. So most people that get some form of dementia are usually diagnosed and categorized, but you don't really know what it was until you autopsy the brain.

So take comfort in that.
 
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If you really want to read the FUD about oligomers and fibrils... Read this thread.


SecretWeapon states that "1. Almost every single amylin analogue fibrillated at pH 7.5 (including cagrilintide). The only one that didn't was rejected for low potency."

pH 7.5 is neutral and around our body's pH.

So my question is, even if you tweak the reconstituted vial's pH to be acidic (4), was the product prepared in a manner where fibrillation did not take place? In other words, did your upstanding, totally honest, not going to screw you, I swear, Chinese chemist prepare the solution in an environment that was in the acidic pH range?

I believe the oligomers and fibrils aren't just a concern for the human brain. There are other health related concerns..

I'll let you make your own conclusion on the safety of black market Cagrilintide. The jump to Alzheimers is a long one since it's generally progresses slowly and later in life. So most people that get some form of dementia are usually diagnosed and categorized, but you don't really know what it was until you autopsy the brain.

So take comfort in that.

It's a shame none of us will get to see our own autopsies. That would be really cool.
 
Imagine your consciousness being in the car when it gets sold for scrap metal
Isn't that what they're sold for from the dealership?

(this is not political. i've hated teslas ever since i sat in a model s back in 2013 and thought the interior was shittier than car's half their price)
 
Isn't that what they're sold for from the dealership?

(this is not political. i've hated teslas ever since i sat in a model s back in 2013 and thought the interior was shittier than car's half their price)
I wouldn't have any idea! I can't even tell different models of car apart.
 
fibrils/oligomers

oligomers and fibrils

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