Day one

[FlowerFairy]

I really don’t understand why people are starting on Retatrutide. You have nowhere to go once you max it out, with the exception of adding Cagri.

For me it was the crushing fatigue, severe constipation and that none of my food tasted good anymore. If I was ok with sleeping 16 of 24 hours and being disgusted by the taste of all of my formerly favorite foods plus the digestive issues, I’d go back. I was losing faster on low dose Tirz.

 

[kaahhllll]

Week Two

Well I suppose it's that time. As of this morning I am down 11lbs. I've been weighing right after waking up and going to the bathroom every morning for the most consistent daily weight. Averaging 1.5lbs a day, but I am in a MASSIVE deficit, as well as cranking up my daily activity. I've essentially cut out all bread products, still eating pasta a fair bit, but trying to stick to a mostly protein and fat diet. Still plenty of carbs for energy, but from different sources. Almost like a dirty Keto or filthy carnivore diet. But I have always enjoyed beef, and have found it to be pretty easy skipping a bun or rolling up sandwich meat with some mustard in the middle.

Throughout this week, I didn't feel much. No mention able side effects aside from my BMs being more frequent, but lower volume than typical. I used to be a one a day guy, but now it's more like 5 or 6 times. Maybe it's the protein. Cravings, hunger, and urges to eat were kind of hit and miss. The first couple days I didn't feel hungry at all, but was able to eat just fine. Day 3 and 4 I noticed my appetite had lowered to a point of being very indecisive on what I wanted to eat. Day 5 was a very lazy day for me and I ended up snacking out of convenience, reaching over and stealing some of whatever my girlfriend was munching on while we were watching TV, but I actually had normal "hunger" feeling that day as well. The feeling of an empty stomach, or hunger growls. Then, yesterday and today were my biggest deficit days, I felt like I was struggling to find motivation to eat today. I even made a batch of homemade rice crispy treats at 100cal each to try and be excited about some kind of sweet treat, but impressively ate one and individually bagged up the rest for later.

So, first week impressions are solid. I did another 0.5 today, and as of now I think I will be staying at 0.5 for the foreseeable future. It seems like it's doing plenty for me at this dose. Even if it's all in my head, I'm staying in a deficit and have voluntarily gone on walks twice this week because I hadn't hit my step count or activity goals for the day on my watch.

According to my body composition scale, my muscle mass hasn't changed. However, I know it isn't a certain measurement. Regardless, I do feel better day to day, and I'm excited to see the results of week Two.

Thanks you, everyone, for any insight or information!

 

[kaahhllll]

Week three:

Little late update, Tuesday marked the start of week 3. I am doing 0.5mg again because it appears to be continuing to work. Very minimal hunger of cravings throughout the day, no problem staying inna defecit. But it appears as though I have hit my first stall.

First week, down 10.0lbs
Second week, down 7.8lbs
Third week, been at 281-281.5 for the last couple days.

I am considering increasing my calorie count for the day, as I have been between 1000 and 1200cal for the last 3 days so far, when before I was closer to 1600 daily. I might just ride it out a couple more days and see where it goes, and consider increasing dose on Tuesday. I also considered taking another 0.5 today or tomorrow to give a boost.

Still zero side effects, and according to my body comp scale and watch, muscle mass is unchanged. I am a mechanic so I am constantly using my arms and legs, but I have also been weight lifting a few nights a week.

Will update on Tuesday!

 

[Laniebug007]

Back in like 2010, people were using HCG along with a calorie deficit to "burn stored fat". Supposedly it "turned on your fat burning". Didn't take me long to realize that it was only the calorie deficit that was causing people to lose weight. And then studies from Mayo clinic and a few other places stated it had no effect on fat burning/weight loss. I worked in a small family doctor's office, and the Dr was big into it. Tried it, along with the rest of the office, noticed nothing, stopped it.

In 2011, my husband & I took HCG drops for 3 mos. & we both lost 50 lbs. & stopped. Weight gradually came back on. I soon began waking up with a numb & tingling R arm. Thought I was dying. It felt like Pop-Rocks in my hands. I do have CI-PN, so not sure if from that. My oncology labs showed my B12 was really high. That’s when they weren’t able to label as HCG anymore & sold it more as aminos. Maybe it did work? We ate the same boring chicken w/ Johnny’s daily, salad w/ red wine vinegar, & carb were those awful brown crackers. Maybe apple too? But was it really urine from pregnant women that we put under our tongue? 😜

 

[kaahhllll]

Milestone update, I woke up this morning and I have broken the 20lbs mark, and weighed in at 278.8! 21lbs down in 18 days, while gaining muscle mass.

 

[MillyFanilly]

For me it was the crushing fatigue, severe constipation and that none of my food tasted good anymore. If I was ok with sleeping 16 of 24 hours and being disgusted by the taste of all of my formerly favorite foods plus the digestive issues, I’d go back. I was losing faster on low dose Tirz.

This was me! Fatigue and some days I was so dizzy I couldn’t stand. Tirz never done that to me and I’m topped out at 15mg and have been for months. Gave it a 2 wk rest before trying Reta. Needless to say it wasn’t for me.

 

[kaahhllll]

Week four.

Week three was a little weird for me. Still not having much for cravings or hunger, still hovering around 1200cal/day, yet I seem to be holding onto a lot of water weight. My lowest weight was on Sunday at 275.6, a total of 24.2lbs lost in 21 days. But since then I gained back up to 280.4 and have been steadily at around 278 for a couple days. I noticed I haven't been peeing nearly as much as I was for the first 2 weeks. I think my carb intake was a little high as I stopped going protein heavy and had some pasta for a few nights.

Needless to say, I know I am still making progress as far as fat loss goes, and considering I still feel the Reta is effective, I opted for 0.5mg again for week four. Today was 277.6lbs. I'm going to cut back on carbs again, add more fiber to offset what carbs I do have, and try to cram in more water throughout the day, with a little Celtic salt mixed in. I am averaging 1.0lbs per day and gaining muscle mass, so I am pretty comfortable with current progress and rate of loss. I'll check back on my next milestone!

 

[Calm Logic]

Amazing results on the lowest possible dose.

Can you link to the body comp scale you are using, or mention the brand?

 

[kaahhllll]

Amazing results on the lowest possible dose.

Can you link to the body comp scale you are using, or mention the brand?

Thanks! I'm pretty surprised/impressed with how well its going, honestly. I'm curious how much of it is the Reta and how much is will power to not be fat anymore.


https://a.co/d/8Mt2KFM

This is the exact scale I have been using for a couple years now.

 

[Calm Logic]

https://a.co/d/8Mt2KFM

This is the exact scale I have been using for a couple years now.

Thanks! Just ordered it. Now we are scale besties, haha.

 

[kaahhllll]

Thanks! Just ordered it. Now we are scale besties, haha.

 

[Glowworm]

I just want to say that I am enjoying your updates and progress. Also, I am today years old to find out my Galaxy Watch does composition. Now I have to compare it to my smart scale. 😀

 

[kaahhllll]

Can you guys throw some opinions my way? My next dose is tomorrow, and I am trying to decide whether I should titrate up or not.

I had a pretty bad cheat weekend with the holiday. Didn't really try to control what or how much I ate, and it essentially stopped my progress. Not that that is unexpected.

However that's not why I'm considering going up. I have been noticing myself thinking about my next meal a lot over the last few days. And it was extremely easy to overeat, I never felt full over the whole weekend. As of today, I had no problem restricting calories and making smart food choices. But I wonder if I am getting used to the reta and that may be why it was so easy to overeat.

My options are:
Continue at 0.5mg (my preferred option)
Titrate up to 1.0mg in one injection/week
Do 0.5mg twice per week

Let's take a vote!

 

[Calm Logic]

I never felt full over the whole weekend.

I would definitely go up.

 

[GLP1Pharmacist]

Definitely go up in dose, from my experience, having lost a lot and been on Sema and Tirz first for over a year, I needed the higher doses. Really saw Reta benefit at 6-8mg per week.

 

[nonyabizznez]

Can you guys throw some opinions my way? My next dose is tomorrow, and I am trying to decide whether I should titrate up or not.

I'd go up while keeping it weekly. Currently your at 25% of the starting dose in human trials (AFAIK). The rats in studies might have binged at your dose! Dosing too little to have an impact ends up being more expensive in the long run when your not getting results.

 

[zpped]

Tough call because you are on such a low dose. But, you are also still loosing at a very high rate.

Personally, I'd just eat more and hold the same dose for 2 more weeks.

 

[DoubleK]

I didn’t feel much on my first 0.5mg dose either. Honestly, I was kind of wondering if I messed it up or if it just wasn’t going to work for me. But a few days in, I noticed my usual cravings got a little quieter. That was huge for me.

 

[Fisherman2356]

I dont plan on being on these forever. I ran a few sample packs of Ozempic I got from a doctor who gave me extra because I pretended like I was gonna pay him 1100$/month for it, I dont remember the exact dosage, 4 or 5 pens worth. It was cool to not be hungry, but I already take Adderall for ADD and dont have a snack/hunger problem, and my A1C is actually within range on my bloods. Also not a fan of some of the long term sides Ive seen from Sema (tirz seems ok).

Reta is attractive because of the GCGR agonist and Im SUPER interested in the liver fatty acid release/reduction in FLD risk I read in a study. if I was ONLY interested in straight up weight loss by any means necessary Id stick to Tesa/GH. I have a lot of muscle I want to retain and am in a place in life where Im just not training much and have accepted that - Thats really the only reason a GLP-1 looks super attractive to me.


GH is the real deal - Wish I could afford to be on it permanently and plan to one day. My experience was life changing. Only second to Test as far as quality of life increase lol

"GH is the real deal - Wish I could afford to be on it permanently". You are writing perfect English so I have to assume you live somewhere in the western world (as opposed to zwahilly land) and I find it hard to believe you can't afford a $30/mo. Just bought 2kits of 10X36IU (usually they overfill by ten%, so it is basically 40IU per vial) at a price of $320 including shipping. That should be good for almost one year at about 2-3 IU per day. Still, you can't afford it?

 

[Airborne Daddy]

What was the craze about HCG?

I know with anabolics its a popular PCT option, was it touted for weight loss or anything besides hormone stability?

Ive never heard of it used for anything besides that and its actual medical applications lol

Me neither. Thought he meant hgh. Maybe the hcg makes ur nuts a lil more efficient so a 3% increase in free test will have everyone trying to cash in. Clomid therapy was big in Europe as an alternative to trt even though it's also a pct drug.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

"GH is the real deal - Wish I could afford to be on it permanently". You are writing perfect English so I have to assume you live somewhere in the western world (as opposed to zwahilly land) and I find it hard to believe you can't afford a $30/mo. Just bought 2kits of 10X36IU (usually they overfill by ten%, so it is basically 40IU per vial) at a price of $320 including shipping. That should be good for almost one year at about 2-3 IU per day. Still, you can't afford it?

Chinese gh killed blew up my glucose and a1c and I think it helped get my triglycerides up to 599.... plus they say high dose will cause enlarged organs. My bulldog head is big enough I don't need a gh forehead and belly with enlarged heart liver kidneys gallbladder.

 

[PackmanJohnny]

"GH is the real deal - Wish I could afford to be on it permanently". You are writing perfect English so I have to assume you live somewhere in the western world (as opposed to zwahilly land) and I find it hard to believe you can't afford a $30/mo. Just bought 2kits of 10X36IU (usually they overfill by ten%, so it is basically 40IU per vial) at a price of $320 including shipping. That should be good for almost one year at about 2-3 IU per day. Still, you can't afford it?

I did recently come across some much cheaper sources for GH and am reconsidering for the future, but currently I am in a bit of a shit situation lol, working full time plus a full time student and a couple other 'life happens' modifiers. Ill be back where I need to be eventually - but yes prior to going grey I was paying 2-250$ for 100IU kits, super unsustainable LOL.

Chinese gh killed blew up my glucose and a1c and I think it helped get my triglycerides up to 599.... plus they say high dose will cause enlarged organs. My bulldog head is big enough I don't need a gh forehead and belly with enlarged heart liver kidneys gallbladder.

GH Dosage is usually a fine line between each incremental level - 2-3IU's daily for general health and wellness('anti-aging'), 4-5 IU's daily for more extreme fat loss, and then anythig over 5 is the morally ambiguous area where you can force tissue to grow but do also start to run into those issues of organ hypertrophy and unwanted skeletal developments.

[Edited to avoid doublepost]

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I did recently come across some much cheaper sources for GH and am reconsidering for the future, but currently I am in a bit of a shit situation lol, working full time plus a full time student and a couple other 'life happens' modifiers. Ill be back where I need to be eventually - but yes prior to going grey I was paying 2-250$ for 100IU kits, super unsustainable LOL.



GH Dosage is usually a fine line between each incremental level - 2-3IU's daily for general health and wellness('anti-aging'), 4-5 IU's daily for more extreme fat loss, and then anythig over 5 is the morally ambiguous area where you can force tissue to grow but do also start to run into those issues of organ hypertrophy and unwanted skeletal developments.

[Edited to avoid doublepost]

Who knows what I was actually taking 7 years ago, who remembers what ped's I may have been on as well so I concur. I was doing 5ui a day and skipping Saturday and Sunday... I dropped it after about 3 months.

 

[PackmanJohnny]

Who knows what I was actually taking 7 years ago, who remembers what ped's I may have been on as well so I concur. I was doing 5ui a day and skipping Saturday and Sunday... I dropped it after about 3 months.

I liked the effects, the side effect I hated was the lethargy. I was GASSED 24/7, wasnt fully awake until 1400 most days.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I liked the effects, the side effect I hated was the lethargy. I was GASSED 24/7, wasnt fully awake until 1400 most days.

Glad I made the gym before work today cuz I was at the end of a tirz vial where I normally take 9mg with overfill prolly 10ish... today somehow I had right under 15mg which was likely 16ish.... big difference in 5 hours I was bloated with the shits and couldn't get off the couch I was that exhausted.

 

[Fisherman2356]

Chinese gh killed blew up my glucose and a1c and I think it helped get my triglycerides up to 599.... plus they say high dose will cause enlarged organs. My bulldog head is big enough I don't need a gh forehead and belly with enlarged heart liver kidneys gallbladder.

Ouch it seems you got more than you bargained for, must have been the real deal to enlarge your organs, let's hope mine does the same but just the right organs not all of them LOL > Hear dudes doing DHEA 50-100mg to stave off those sides you mentioned. I intend to do the same when the shipment arrives. Plus, I would never do more than 3IU though i intend to start at 1IU and after a while move to 2, and only if I feel comfortable, I'd move to 3 and would never do more than that. I don't care to get big just doing it to get cut a bit and help RETA do its magic. Will see what happens and I'll come in here and update if any of my organs start getting enlarged. 😂😂

 

[zpped]

Hear dudes doing DHEA 50-100mg to stave off those sides you mentioned.

Under what mechanism would DHEA have any effect on acromegaly?

 

[Fisherman2356]

acromegaly

Not for that but to keep glucose and HA1C and triglycerides in check. There is a doc Dr. Fahy that he does a protocol of 2-3IU GH with 50 DHEA for thymus regrowth, and he seems to think that at doses of 2-4 IU not only your bones will not get bigger but even your boner will stay the same. 😂😂 So, what the hell do I know, I'm just saying what I've heard others recommend.

 

[zpped]

Not for that but to keep glucose and HA1C and triglycerides in check. There is a doc Dr. Fahy that he does a protocol of 2-3IU GH with 50 DHEA for thymus regrowth, and he seems to think that at doses of 2-4 IU not only your bones will not get bigger but even your boner will stay the same. 😂😂 So, what the hell do I know, I'm just saying what I've heard others recommend.

DHEA shouldn't have any effect on those either, but you know what does? GLP1s...

 

[kaahhllll]

I have decided to do 0.5mg again today. And depending on how im feeling come Friday, I may do another 0.5mg then. Here's my reasoning:

Other than during this holiday weekend, I have had total control over my calorie intake and have had minimal cravings. I am still losing at a substantial rate, and I don't want to risk increasing that rate, as I feel like its bordering being a problem already. I also realized, the  volume of food didn't change, rather the calorie density changed. Also, there was a pretty significant amount of liquid calories consumed now that I am looking through my Samsung Health again. Yesterday and today have been a breeze staying in my comfortable defecit, I think until that changes I will continue at 0.5mg.

Now time for the numbers!

Even after my irresponsible three day Holiday weekend, I am still down net 1.0lbs at 276.6, including gaining muscle. I will check back in on Friday to see how I am feeling!