Dear vendors: step the fuck up

The mistakes allow gain information on how I will proceed in this: Too good to be true, don’t buy, listen to what experienced members say, pause and wait to see how it pans out, and I am definitely going to fucked over but make sure that it is my wallet, not my health.
i love this part. i think trying to find the absolute cheapest price possible is a very common goal or endeavor among new researchers (myself included). i no longer care about the latest and greatest sale price as i'm only buying GLP1's anyways (so none of the other GLOW side-quest bullshit) which will take me anywhere from 5-10 months to get through. who really cares about a 10, 20, 30 dollar difference if you have to gamble with your health in the process? and then when you do the math and divide the savings over the course of an entire month/year it's absolutely negligible.

also if you hang around the testing related servers enough you eventually figure out that purity number isn't the end all, be all of safety and at this point is more of a marketing tactic/buy signal. it's almost impossible to know the entirety of what's in a vial beyond tirzepatide and a few commonly used fillers (and jano and PT will tell you this as well) so there's value in buying from a regularly used manufacture that's been around a while with little-to-no failures in terms of product sold in the hopes that they have more control over their own supply and manufacturing process. the recent zero-pep saga shows the dangers of buying from "vendors" who will buy from whoever has the cheapest API in china whereas places like QSC, PGB (via XCE) and Amo look to stick with one partner/make it themselves for all their GLP1 related selling needs.
 
also if you hang around the testing related servers enough you eventually figure out that purity number isn't the end all, be all of safety and at this point is more of a marketing tactic/buy signal. it's almost impossible to know the entirety of what's in a vial beyond tirzepatide and a few commonly used fillers (and jano and PT will tell you this as well) so there's value in buying from a regularly used manufacture that's been around a while with little-to-no failures in terms of product sold in the hopes that they have more control over their own supply and manufacturing process. the recent zero-pep saga shows the dangers of buying from "vendors" who will buy from whoever has the cheapest API in china whereas places like QSC, PGB (via XCE) and Amo look to stick with one partner/make it themselves for all their GLP1 related selling needs.
I'm just starting to get this part of the journey, and I pretty much fell for this purity-testing marketing. I think more so trying to validate my trust in the product and vendor than being realistic. I'm part of testing T30 for a vendor, and my vial was selected; I thought it was a great confirmation of my buy. When a completely consumer-based testing group started, I joined that and chipped in some cash to have Jano and PT test my T30 purchase group. It's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. If the consumer group stays, I will help fund the following tests because I realized I was merely a sardine(consumer) swimming with sharks(vendors/producers), and there is safety in numbers.
 
I found QYC on Discord, seems to have a lot of action between quotes, price lists are available, reviews are good, looks like they run "promotions"? haha - reading past chats, members seem happy with products. prices look good to. I opened a DM with her, she was prompt. Hopefully someone will have had or has some experience with this company, I would like to find out more.
I haven't had any luck with getting to Stairway for Gray. Every link is expired, The frustration is REAL lol - Probably spent the last month lurking on Redditt, Discord & the 1 time i got into Telegram ( clicked a link, didn't join) Been reading post after post, probably have 15 names of vendors, website in China. Went to websites, sent email, received many answers. Some businesses are the same with different names. Rep names are always different, sometimes just a number.
So, im probably going to order from QYC this weekend, Ill let you know.
I don't think there's much testing available for their products. Some of their reta came in at ~93% purity recently. They're also a reseller and get their product from the same place as LSPL, ZZT, ZLZ. Think they also were sending out dyed water instead of lipo-c. I personally had a bad experience with them and wouldn't recommend them.
 
I think we fail to realize how large this market is we exist in, we are talking in the realm of half of all adult americans, and many from other countries, if we say HALF of those are covered by insurance for name brand (I doubt that to be the case), then lets say it's 20-30 million adults on the SUPER conservative estimate side. Most of these people are being served by compounding right now.

The thing about communities that do research and talk with like-minded individuals, is they don't realize how "small" they are. The VAST VAST majority of these people are approaching some seller on facebook/instagram/tiktok and are getting suspect product and just injecting themselves with no testing.

Hell I wouldn't be surprised if most of those people don't even know what kind of drug they are asking for, just "Jennifer said she got this drug and it makes you lose weight, can I buy some?". What would an acceptable price be to sell to someone? Like $150-$200 a vial? That is essentially gold right there in terms of profit.

We are in the Age of the Grift and it would appear VERY LITTLE consequences to our actions. And make no mistake, if you are even in this forum you are better armed than 98% of the populace to deal with it, and yet we still have many posts of members getting scammed...

On my little street in suburban America, in a completely purple politically aligned state, I can name 10 people on GLP-1's right now from compounded/brand (mostly compounded)... my street is like a quarter mile long. I don't even talk to 70% of the people on the street. Shit's crazy
Yep! There’s a reason half the ads on tv are for glp1. BILLIONS OF THEM.

I need to step the f up and make this a business already.
 
Yep! There’s a reason half the ads on tv are for glp1. BILLIONS OF THEM.

I need to step the f up and make this a business already.
Here's your checklist to determine if this is a semi-safe endeavor for you in the US (this is partially a joke):

- Do you have a net worth of > 10 million?
- Do you have a reliable consumer base that will accept crypto payments?
- Can you remain under the radar so as to not attract regulatory attention?
- Are you technically competent in Facebook groups and building some layer of obfuscation to your identity?

If you answer yes to all of these things, then YOU TOO can sell grey market drugs to unsuspecting fat Americans who don't like researching anything (pretty much most of them) but are bored enough to use a search bar on the facebook platform.

good luck and godspeed!
 
Here's your checklist to determine if this is a semi-safe endeavor for you in the US (this is partially a joke):

- Do you have a net worth of > 10 million?
- Do you have a reliable consumer base that will accept crypto payments?
- Can you remain under the radar so as to not attract regulatory attention?
- Are you technically competent in Facebook groups and building some layer of obfuscation to your identity?

If you answer yes to all of these things, then YOU TOO can sell grey market drugs to unsuspecting fat Americans who don't like researching anything (pretty much most of them) but are bored enough to use a search bar on the facebook platform.

good luck and godspeed!
That's all you need? Easy enough
 
Yeah, don't do that again. You can buy 10 vials of 12 or 15mg Tirz for $120/$130 shipped from a US Warehouse and have it in less than a week. Publicly tested for weight and purity to boot.
I wouldn't use what you bought, but if you decide to; the bare minimum standard I would accept would be a vacuum sealed vial. If the vial doesn't pull the BAC water out of the syringe during reconstitution I surely wouldn't use it.
Perfect I would love to buy 10 miles for $120-$130 and get it within a week. Can you help me out with that?
I won’t feel too bad about not using what I got lol
 
I had one order from SRY with Hailey that arrived seven days after I placed the order. However, all my other orders took longer. I'm criticizing neither Hailey nor SRY; however, I wouldn't order from them if I was depending on the items to arrive within a week.
There's just not many options for kits shipped from the US right now. I think SRY was caught selling US stock that hadn't arrived in the US yet. The kit I ordered Monday shipped Tuesday.
 
Dearest vendors,

As you're all aware, the biggest name in the space has been kneecapped. Looks like they will be making a comeback eventually per a post made this morning. So, you have a choice: you can sit here, raise your prices, take a windfall of sales that would have gone to QSC, and then return to the status quo when they come back, stumbling around stepping on rakes like you have been for the past month or two. Or you can step the fuck up. Lower your prices, deliver a good product shipped quick, steal the market out from under everybody else. Here in America we call this the carpe motherfuckin diem pivot.

If you can deliver, now is the moment to prove it. You can truly dominate the market, but the opportunity isn't going to last long. Yours for the taking. The year of the snek is yours, baby, go do it.

And start with reta please and thank you.
I like your style...you wield your writing skills like a super talented graffiti artist! I have a feeling you are not shy and unassuming.
 
There's just not many options for kits shipped from the US right now. I think SRY was caught selling US stock that hadn't arrived in the US yet. The kit I ordered Monday shipped Tuesday.
I’m not sure if SRY was caught doing that. But I believe SRY did that on one of my cases. Still I consider SRY a good vendor.
 
I’m not sure if SRY was caught doing that. But I believe SRY did that on one of my cases. Still I consider SRY a good vendor.
Yes. SRY came through for me. I got my Ava order and the vials look "sketch" as all get out. Different PEPs, but all vials have the same textured white caps. No way to tell them apart.
 
For those of you who've been in this game for awhile, what is the actual known result from people buying from random vendors found on the online Chinese marketplaces? Feels/tests?

My basic sense is to avoid, but then I realize I'm being kind of like any mass-media article/story about compounded GLP-1s or about grey market: lots of "may" "could" "might" "you don't know if" "☠️" "☣️"
I have tried two "other" vendors since X shut down last March. I put other in quotes because I haven't found them on any forum I have been on yet and I lurk quite a few places.

Shanghai Chinqesen Biotechnology Co., Ltd (May 2024) (Wendy was prompt and professional) (The menu is limited) and Rizhao Folin Peptide Chemical Co., Ltd. (Dec 2024)(Lisa took longer than expected, I suspect my order was confiscated but have no way of knowing for sure yet)(Much larger menu)
Prices from both companies were similar to QSC.

Both were found on madeinchina and also on echemi.
 
Which product? And did you have it tested, or have anything to say about "feels"?
Haven't tested it and haven't used it yet. I ordered out of panic after Xce shut down. It's been sitting in storage all this time.

The other stuff from the other company hasn't been received yet. I'm trying to be patient. I mean, I get it, busy time of year, plus crackdowns plus confusion equals slow and unreliable servce. If it arrives, that stuff is all going to Jano as soon as I get my hands on it.

To be clear, the reason I went with a different company the second time was because of the limited menu of company #1. I'm moving into trying other things.
 
Dearest vendors,

As you're all aware, the biggest name in the space has been kneecapped. Looks like they will be making a comeback eventually per a post made this morning. So, you have a choice: you can sit here, raise your prices, take a windfall of sales that would have gone to QSC, and then return to the status quo when they come back, stumbling around stepping on rakes like you have been for the past month or two. Or you can step the fuck up. Lower your prices, deliver a good product shipped quick, steal the market out from under everybody else. Here in America we call this the carpe motherfuckin diem pivot.

If you can deliver, now is the moment to prove it. You can truly dominate the market, but the opportunity isn't going to last long. Yours for the taking. The year of the snek is yours, baby, go do it.

And start with reta please and thank you.
It's easy to criticize a business but more difficult to run one. I wonder if you were running a business you wouldn't raise your prices too. Easy to give an opinion when you're on the other side of the fence. Just my $.02
 

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