Dosing confusion

[Adavis3053]

I am currently doing compound. Soon, i will be switching to gray. I don't mean to sound like a newbie but the dosing and numbers confuse the hell out of me.

Mg to ml to units

0.25mg is 10 units. and 1.5mg is 60.....i don't know how to calculate this. Same with BAC water. how do you know how much to add? I also do not understand vile sizing. I want to buy a vile storage container but don't know if i should get one that holds 3ml, 5ml, 10ml.....goes up to 20ml

and i know about peptide calculators. I have looked at a few and they don't help!

does anyone have a peptide numbers/vile sizing for dummies guide?

 

[indolent]

I am currently doing compound. Soon, i will be switching to gray. I don't mean to sound like a newbie but the dosing and numbers confuse the hell out of me.

Mg to ml to units

0.25mg is 10 units. and 1.5mg is 60.....i don't know how to calculate this. Same with BAC water. how do you know how much to add? I also do not understand vile sizing. I want to buy a vile storage container but don't know if i should get one that holds 3ml, 5ml, 10ml.....goes up to 20ml

and i know about peptide calculators. I have looked at a few and they don't help!

does anyone have a peptide numbers/vile sizing for dummies guide?

Good questions! The best place to start is the guide in the first link in my signature.

Regarding your specific question:
1. learn the difference between volume measurements in metric or metric-derived (mL/milliliter and units -- AKA insulin units), vs weight/mass measurements (mg or milligrams)
2. there's no consistent dilution concentration--not even with the pharma name-brand stuff. You want to start out with a goal in units, geared to the easier-to-use numbers on your syringes, then use the reverse calculator that's also linked in my signature. If you scroll down it, you'll find a converter between your mg dose goal and mcg (micrograms), which you'll enter at the top part. The typical vial holds 3mL of bacteriostatic water, and I usually shoot for between 1 and 3 mL to add to the vial as per the reverse calculator.
3. Now you understand that "0.25mg is 10 units. and 1.5mg is 60" is not conceptually correct.

 

[General Lee]

I am currently doing compound. Soon, i will be switching to gray. I don't mean to sound like a newbie but the dosing and numbers confuse the hell out of me.

Mg to ml to units

0.25mg is 10 units. and 1.5mg is 60.....i don't know how to calculate this. Same with BAC water. how do you know how much to add? I also do not understand vile sizing. I want to buy a vile storage container but don't know if i should get one that holds 3ml, 5ml, 10ml.....goes up to 20ml

and i know about peptide calculators. I have looked at a few and they don't help!

does anyone have a peptide numbers/vile sizing for dummies guide?

Following. I think I have the maths right but I can’t find a calculator that uses a pen.

 

[General Lee]

Good questions! The best place to start is the guide in the first link in my signature.

Regarding your specific question:
1. learn the difference between volume measurements in metric or metric-derived (mL/milliliter and units -- AKA insulin units), vs weight/mass measurements (mg or milligrams)
2. there's no consistent dilution concentration--not even with the pharma name-brand stuff. You want to start out with a goal in units, geared to the easier-to-use numbers on your syringes, then use the reverse calculator that's also linked in my signature. If you scroll down it, you'll find a converter between your mg dose goal and mcg (micrograms), which you'll enter at the top part. The typical vial holds 3mL of bacteriostatic water, and I usually shoot for between 1 and 3 mL to add to the vial as per the reverse calculator.
3. Now you understand that "0.25mg is 10 units. and 1.5mg is 60" is not conceptually correct.

Where is your sig bud? I’m not new to forums, I was a moderator for 12 year on one… my experience the sig is usually under the first post by a user on each page.

 

[Peloma]

Where is your sig bud? I’m not new to forums, I was a moderator for 12 year on one… my experience the sig is usually under the first post by a user on each page.

You need to log in via the app or be online to see signatures.

Your pen has a 3ml or 3cc cartridge (same thing). You will fill it directly from your vial/syringe, so nothing different has to happen. Once ready to go, you just dial how many units you want to take. It's almost too easy. I have 4 pens ready to go at all times in the fridge.

 

[General Lee]

Ah I see. Thanks bud, Never realised there was an app. I’ll see if I can get it. Appreciated. The way I worked it out in my head is….30mg of reta and 1ml of bac would be 3mg dose at 10 clicks/units? Is that right? Apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread. Hopefully some useful info.

 

[Garbo]

You need to log in via the app or be online to see signatures.

The APP? Yikes, what app?

I visit this site via browser on computer, and same with iPhone (but on phone have a home screen icon.)

I would love if there were an app, but ...

 

[General Lee]

The APP? Yikes, what app?

I visit this site via browser on computer, and same with iPhone (but on phone have a home screen icon.)

I would love if there were an app, but ...

Same here regarding ios. There’s a thread on how to install the app which is in fact just adding it to home screen and enabling push notifications. I’ve done this but still can’t see any sigs 🙂

 

[peptideusername]

You need to log in via the app or be online to see signatures.

Your pen has a 3ml or 3cc cartridge (same thing). You will fill it directly from your vial/syringe, so nothing different has to happen. Once ready to go, you just dial how many units you want to take. It's almost too easy. I have 4 pens ready to go at all times in the fridge.

If you're on the mobile site in a web browser, all you need to do is turn your phone sideways into landscape mode to see the signatures.
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(These pics are stitched together but taken on mobile)

 

[General Lee]

Aw dammit it was that simple? I see it now thank you!! 😅 I’ll have a good read.

 

[Peloma]

The APP? Yikes, what app?

I visit this site via browser on computer, and same with iPhone (but on phone have a home screen icon.)

I would love if there were an app, but ...

There's an app. I downloaded it, but didn't think it was optimized, so I deleted it and just use my phone/ laptop.

 

[General Lee]

Yeah I absolutely can’t wrap my head around this dosing at all. I currently use 1ml of bac water in a 10mg (strength) vial of reta. 20 clicks is 2mg. I might just stick to 10mg. Edit* I’ve found the answer. My maths is correct. 1ml of bac water makes 10 3mg doses.

 

[Garbo]

There's an app. I downloaded it, but didn't think it was optimized, so I deleted it and just use my phone/ laptop.

Thanks for replying, Peloma. Are you by any chance on android? Because (unless I am completely) there is no such thing in Apple's App Store. Including no app for XenForo, which I believe is the platform that this forum uses.

 

[Peloma]

Thanks for replying, Peloma. Are you by any chance on android? Because (unless I am completely) there is no such thing in Apple's App Store. Including no app for XenForo, which I believe is the platform that this forum uses.

I am. If you go to the drop down menu on the landing page and scroll all the way down... can you see the option to download the app? The drop down is the 3 horizontal lines.

 

[peptideusername]

Yeah I absolutely can’t wrap my head around this dosing at all. I currently use 1ml of bac water in a 10mg (strength) vial of reta. 20 clicks is 2mg. I might just stick to 10mg. Edit* I’ve found the answer. My maths is correct. 1ml of bac water makes 10 3mg doses.

I'm not sure that last sentence is accurate...

Have you tried using a peptide reconstitution calculator?

 

[General Lee]

Yeah but I’ve no idea what I’m doing with it. The maths has to be correct, it’s just simple division. 30mg into 1ml of bac water = 10 3mg doses. 30mg into 10 ml of bac would make 30 1mg doses 30mg into 2ml would make 15 2mg doses and so on. If it is definitely incorrect I have to know before reconstituting of course. I had read the same math on reddit too.

 

[General Lee]

actually I found this one which really brought it down to my level 😂

Peptide Calculator

Calculate the correct syringe dosage for peptides with our easy-to-use peptide calculator. Get accurate unit measurements fast.

primepeptides.co

Almost too easy to use.

 

[peptideusername]

Yeah but I’ve no idea what I’m doing with it. The maths has to be correct, it’s just simple division. 30mg into 1ml of bac water = 10 3mg doses. 30mg into 10 ml of bac would make 30 1mg doses 30mg into 2ml would make 15 2mg doses and so on. If it is definitely incorrect I have to know before reconstituting of course. I had read the same math on reddit too.

I was basing my conclusion on your previous comment that said you were using a 10mg vial.
Yes, 30mg into 1mL = 10 doses of 3mg at 10 units per dose.

 

[Garbo]

I am. If you go to the drop down menu on the landing page and scroll all the way down... can you see the option to download the app? The drop down is the 3 horizontal lines.

Again, thank you so much for bearing with me 💜

But no… I don't find anything that says download the app. Which leaves me to think that there's not an iPhone app – and YET I am hoping that a fellow iPhone user will pop in and tell me I'm dead wrong and blind as a bat.

 

[General Lee]

Oh sorry bud. Yeah I am currently using a 10mg vial with 1ml of bac so 20 clicks/units makes 2mg 5 doses. I’ve ordered 30mg vials and was planning on using 1ml of bac again to make 3mg.

 

[Peloma]

Again, thank you so much for bearing with me 💜

But no… I don't find anything that says download the app. Which leaves me to think that there's not an iPhone app – and YET I am hoping that a fellow iPhone user will pop in and tell me I'm dead wrong and blind as a bat.

You're good. Take a look at the bottom of the picture... that's what comes up when I tap the lines.

 

[Garbo]

You're good. Take a look at the bottom of the picture... that's what comes up when I tap the lines.

How did you know I was secretly hoping for a screenshot. Here's mine:

 

[Peloma]

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How did you know I was secretly hoping for a screenshot. Here's mine:

Must be a search engine thing. Probably not supported by safari, but maybe if you go through chrome...

 

[indolent]

it’s just simple division. 30mg into 1ml of bac water = 10 3mg doses. 30mg into 10 ml of bac would make 30 1mg doses 30mg into 2ml would make 15 2mg doses

I think you're still missing the fundamental point that your examples have nothing to do with the volumetric aspect of the bac water. Your statements are just about dividing the mass of the vial differently into doses: 30= 10 x 3, or 30 x 1, or 15 x 2

You need to understand the relationship between the two volumetric measurements milliliters and units, and then understand that you're just diluting the mg contents of the vial to hit the target mg in your selected number of units.

...which for me would ideally be anything between 10 & 40 units as number-marked on my chosen syringes. Especially if you use the despicable 100 unit ones. And if you have 30 unit syringes, you definitely don't want to pin 40 units each time.

 

[General Lee]

Again, thank you so much for bearing with me 💜

But no… I don't find anything that says download the app. Which leaves me to think that there's not an iPhone app – and YET I am hoping that a fellow iPhone user will pop in and tell me I'm dead wrong and blind as a bat.

I’m on iphone bud. All you do is go to the main page (home) then hit the share button then “add to home screen” not an app as such. Just a shortcut. As pointed out turn the phone on its side to view members signatures.

I think you're still missing the fundamental point that your examples have nothing to do with the volumetric aspect of the bac water. Your statements are just about dividing the mass of the vial differently into doses: 30= 10 x 3, or 30 x 1, or 15 x 2

You need to understand the relationship between the two volumetric measurements milliliters and units, and then understand that you're just diluting the mg contents of the vial to hit the target mg in your selected number of units.

...which for me would ideally be anything between 10 & 40 units as number-marked on my chosen syringes. Especially if you use the despicable 100 unit ones. And if you have 30 unit syringes, you definitely don't want to pin 40 units each time.

i use 60 unit ones. And do 20 units. 3mg dose from 20 units is perfect 👌🏼

 

[indolent]

I’m on iphone bud. All you do is go to the main page (home) then hit the share button then “add to home screen” not an app as such. Just a shortcut. As pointed out turn the phone on its side to view members signatures.

i use 60 unit ones. And do 20 units. 3mg dose from 20 units is perfect 👌🏼

60 unit syringes? Anyway, you'll use 2mL of bac in your 30mg vial to yield 3mg doses in 20 unit draws. Right?

 

[Skidude]

60 unit syringes? Anyway, you'll use 2mL of bac in your 30mg vial to yield 3mg doses in 20 unit draws. Right?

math looks good

 

[peptideusername]

60 unit syringes? Anyway, you'll use 2mL of bac in your 30mg vial to yield 3mg doses in 20 unit draws. Right?

 

[General Lee]

math looks good

Thanks bud. I didn’t think it was as complicated as it was being made out to be! 😁

 

[indolent]

Thanks bud. I didn’t think it was as complicated as it was being made out to be! 😁

So you're using 2mL bac then, right?