Windingroads06
Less is More
Not much detail here, but future meds might not cause as much muscle wasting.
Drugs that spare muscle
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BillGoldberg
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That would be great. I did hear something on a podcast that drug makers were formulating glp-1’s that included boosting IGF-1
jimbothigpen
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Enobosarm (aka Ostarine or MK-2866) is another one besides SLU-PP-332 that I'm hoping to test out soon. Wary of doubling up now while I'm playing with slupp, since I'd like to know which one's doing the heavy lifting, if either give me results; but it's definitely on my radar.
I'm planning on that one too. Once I have the cagri:sema ratio to 1:1 I'm going to get blood work and if it all checks out liver wise, I'm going for it. Hopefully by then I'm less shy in the gym and will be brave enough to start trying weights instead of just cardio.
Someguy22922
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Few thoughts here:
1. No one cares what you're doing at the gym, trust me haha. Most people are there to get their workout in / bro down. Loads of roided out bros aren't judgemental at all. They prob have the worst body image issues in the place. They also tend to respect those who put effort in, regardless of their body composition. Plus, you don't know someone's story, so don't judge.
2. SARMs will still shut down your HPTA / Natural Test production at most dosages. If you plan on running Ostarine, run it low. I'm sure there's studies out there on this like this one: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3177038/. From this study: 0.1 mg and 0.3 mg did nothing. At 1mg and 3mg total T dropped a bit, LH, FSH and Free T dropped by only a small amount. 3mg group gained 1.3kg of LBM. If that's the route you want to go, maybe take max 5 mg a day.
3. Adequate protein intake. I've seen people eat as low as 0.5 grams / lb of body weight and maintain their muscle mass while resistance training. I tend to stick around 1 gram / lb of body weight, anything after that I found my digestion takes a hit.
4. If you are to shy to workout at the gym, get some resistance bands and start at home. Their dirt cheap and tons of videos on YouTube to cover everything you need.
1. No one cares what you're doing at the gym, trust me haha. Most people are there to get their workout in / bro down. Loads of roided out bros aren't judgemental at all. They prob have the worst body image issues in the place. They also tend to respect those who put effort in, regardless of their body composition. Plus, you don't know someone's story, so don't judge.
2. SARMs will still shut down your HPTA / Natural Test production at most dosages. If you plan on running Ostarine, run it low. I'm sure there's studies out there on this like this one: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3177038/. From this study: 0.1 mg and 0.3 mg did nothing. At 1mg and 3mg total T dropped a bit, LH, FSH and Free T dropped by only a small amount. 3mg group gained 1.3kg of LBM. If that's the route you want to go, maybe take max 5 mg a day.
3. Adequate protein intake. I've seen people eat as low as 0.5 grams / lb of body weight and maintain their muscle mass while resistance training. I tend to stick around 1 gram / lb of body weight, anything after that I found my digestion takes a hit.
4. If you are to shy to workout at the gym, get some resistance bands and start at home. Their dirt cheap and tons of videos on YouTube to cover everything you need.
1. 100% a me problem. I'm very shy and I'll be going alone.
2. Plan was definitely to start super low. Thank you for the dosage suggestions! I just don't want to lose all my muscle, by the time summer hits I want to be biking/hiking/swimming again on a regular basis.
3. Working on the protein, thank you for the reminder!
4. I've been using a stationary bike at home, signing up at the gym was my next step.
Someguy22922
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1. I used to be super shy. After a while I realized all people have the same wants / needs out of life. Talk about your feelings, confidence issues, dreams, etc... Everyone wants to feel sexy, appreciated, have a support system, bitch about your inevitable work nemesis (fuck you Saman), and for the most part we all share the same insecurities. TL DR: Get out there and accomplish your goals.
2. Swimming should be no problem considering you live under the sea. It's seriously fantastic exercise. Super low impact, burns a ton of calories. Hopefully you live somewhere that doesn't have a ton of snow / cold weather.
4. I have a bike placed in front of my TV. Do I go slower sometimes when things get juicy (I watch a fair amount of trash reality TV with my partner)? Of course haha. It's better than nothing though.
