Endotoxin Warning

Thanks for starting a discussion on this. I don't personally test for anything and this has been a wake up call.

Out of general concerns this test has raised, I asked chaptgtp about how bad it is. I'll put the response below, but would appreciate anyone more knowledgeable correcting the record or expanding on relevant details
Wow I think I'm having heart palpitations for sure, I just learned about filtering, and I saw someone get some bad grey market and I got scared this shit is real!! We really need to wake up! On my death bed I'm not gonna be saying, thank god I'm skinny, no I would probably be saying I wish I could just be fat again and live my life! Right! Ok what do we all got to do?
 
I wish I could just buy my Tirz directly from you @littledragon25 . That would make my partner much happier and put my own mind at ease! When does the risk of buying grey become too risky?!
Depends on your own risk aversion profile.
No one can answer that, considering we’re all talking about things to research with, acquired in transactions shadier than a politicians investment portfolio, things potentially made or packaged in the relative realm of sterility that a Planet Fidness’ dirty towel hamper exists within.
Think about that.
I apparently have very low risk aversion to be researching things I got via sending whatsapp messages to some Chinese dude named Sue/Sindy/Linda/Val/etc and then consume with Amazon grade pharma equipment.

On the very best day, that’s where we’re all at.

Just saying. 🫶🏻🎉🎉🫡
 
Depends on your own risk aversion profile.
No one can answer that, considering we’re all talking about things to research with, acquired in transactions shadier than a politicians investment portfolio, things potentially made or packaged in the relative realm of sterility that a Planet Fidness’ dirty towel hamper exists within.
Think about that.
I apparently have very low risk aversion to be researching things I got via sending whatsapp messages to some Chinese dude named Sue/Sindy/Linda/Val/etc and then consume with Amazon grade pharma equipment.

On the very best day, that’s where we’re all at.

Just saying. 🫶🏻🎉🎉🫡
Pointing Up The Truth GIF
 
I am soooo late to the party, haven't been here or on telegram for a while.
My first purchase was the Jeep T30. I didn't use anything, because I'm on Reta from another vendor.
I read their response about they can't guarantee anything, 'because this is not pharma. '
Oh I do know that.
But I also know, I won't be buying from them again.
What do people do ?
Do you test your own vials, or just get a credit and buy some new 'very safe' vials from Jeep ?
Also, I feel mean doing this in the actual Jeep thread; suggestions for a name for this scandal are

JEEPdotoxin (current)
Endo-JEEP (so clever, @desinr-gal )
A picture of a folding chair with "JEEP" across it (made me lol, @jordekorn )
Jeep-on, suckers ??
 
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Wow I think I'm having heart palpitations for sure, I just learned about filtering, and I saw someone get some bad grey market and I got scared this shit is real!! We really need to wake up! On my death bed I'm not gonna be saying, thank god I'm skinny, no I would probably be saying I wish I could just be fat again and live my life! Right! Ok what do we all got to do?
Anxiety maybe from thinking about it?
 
Between this and what looks like a big increase on seizures (of packages, not the twitchy kind), I'm feeling so anxious. I have never particularly worried about endotoxins, because as far as I knew, endotoxins have never been a particularly high risk. But I don't know how I'll ever again buy something that HASN'T been tested for endotoxins now that it's been a big thing at least once in my line of sight, and I certainly don't want to buy anything right now, because "ok, but who else got contaminated raws from whereever those came from? How big was the batch?"

I feel an urge to panic-buy, which I don't need to; I've hoarded EXACTLY for this, if grey suddenly even seemed less safe to me or got less easy and I decided not to chance it for awhile, I could afford to just pause and wait and see how things shake out. But my inner goblin is screaming "GREY IS ALMOST OVER, BUY EVERYTHING FOR LIFE," which I'm sure it wouldn't be if I'd been around longer. But I haven't, so here I am.
 
Between this and what looks like a big increase on seizures (of packages, not the twitchy kind), I'm feeling so anxious. I have never particularly worried about endotoxins, because as far as I knew, endotoxins have never been a particularly high risk. But I don't know how I'll ever again buy something that HASN'T been tested for endotoxins now that it's been a big thing at least once in my line of sight, and I certainly don't want to buy anything right now, because "ok, but who else got contaminated raws from whereever those came from? How big was the batch?"

I feel an urge to panic-buy, which I don't need to; I've hoarded EXACTLY for this, if grey suddenly even seemed less safe to me or got less easy and I decided not to chance it for awhile, I could afford to just pause and wait and see how things shake out. But my inner goblin is screaming "GREY IS ALMOST OVER, BUY EVERYTHING FOR LIFE," which I'm sure it wouldn't be if I'd been around longer. But I haven't, so here I am.
I hoarded Jeeps T30, lol... I use Reta, so it was a part of my 'i need to have 10 years worth of peptides'. And now it's bad. Maybe mine is. I don't know.
Grey won't disappear.
 
Do you test your own vials, or just get a credit and buy some new 'very safe' vials from Jeep ?
Jeep has agreed to replace all the T30 orange tops. Reach out to your Rep🙂

Also, Endo testing is being done on the older T30s (Pre December)


🔔Official Final Solution Statement for TR30 Product

Hey everyone!🤲
First of all , we sincerely and deeply apologize to every customer who has purchased the orange caps TR30 product with utmost remorse and accountability.

Over this period, we have continuously received genuine feedback regarding the endotoxin issue of the orange caps TR30. The company has carefully reviewed and noted every comment and complaint. These reminders prompted us to take immediate action. me and Kelly promptly escalated the issue to the company,then they triggering a comprehensive internal review and profound reflection. We fully acknowledge that this product quality issue has caused concerns and inconveniences for all customers and betrayed your long-term trust and support. This constitutes a critical oversight on our part, for which we take full responsibility without any excuses.

We deeply understand your expectations for product quality and cherish the hard-earned trust you have placed in us. To fully compensate for your losses, we have conducted in-depth discussions and formally rolled out the following remedial solutions to deliver a reliable resolution for every affected customer:

❗️1. Free Replacement of Qualified New Products
All customers who purchased the orange caps TR30 are eligible for free product replacement. The newly produced batch of TR30 will undergo strict endotoxin testing. We will arrange immediate delivery only after the products pass all qualification inspections. Customers may also conduct 3rd testing on the new batch at their discretion; we will fully reimburse all testing fees if any non-conformity is identified.

❗️2. Equivalent Value Exclusive Store Credit Compensation
For customers who do not require product replacement, we will issue an exclusive store credit with the equivalent value of your purchased product. This credit can be used with no minimum spending requirement on all subsequent product purchases to offset the inconvenience caused by this incident.

Furthermore, we formally announce that the all orange caps TR30 have been stop sold.We strongly recommend that anyone currently using this product discontinue use immediately if experiencing any discomfort.

Root cause analysis confirms the core issue stems from raw material procurement, exposing critical loopholes in our quality control system. We will not evade or downplay these flaws. Moving forward, we will fully upgrade our quality management protocols, implementing rigorous monitoring mechanisms covering raw material sourcing, production processing, finished product testing, and warehouse dispatch. Additionally, in response to non-standard batch labeling in the past, we will comprehensively optimize our batch traceability system to achieve full lifecycle traceability for all product batches, ensuring complete transparency and safety for our customers.

This incident serves as a profound wake-up call for our brand. We firmly recognize that product quality is the cornerstone of our enterprise, and customer trust is our most valuable asset. This isolated oversight will never compromise our pursuit of premium quality, nor will it shake our commitment to customer accountability.

We acknowledge that a simple apology cannot fully remedy your disappointment. Nevertheless, we solemnly promise to rebuild your trust through tangible improvements, stricter quality control standards, and dedicated customer service.🙂‍↕️

We offer our heartfelt apologies once again to all affected customers. We are grateful for your candid feedback and ongoing supervision. We sincerely invite you to witness our continuous improvement. We will uphold rigorous production standards for all products and live up to your trust with consistent and reliable quality.🫡
———JEEP team
 
I'm still one of the holdouts, watching everyone buy from CN while I still cling to my US based dealer of choice (begins with N and has an X in it lolll) because my risk wishy washy brain thinks, oh they only get the raws from CN but do all the lyophilizing and vialing in house on US soil in super clean labs. <--- Yes, believe me, I know this is all smoke and mirrors and it's the raws that are probably contaminated if at all. But while I wait for vendor testing and news to drop of any endo results, I casually pin away from older stock. I think it's just my way of taking at least some of the stressors out of the equation - will it make it through customs? - while I side eye all the endo drama....
 
I'm still one of the holdouts, watching everyone buy from CN while I still cling to my US based dealer of choice (begins with N and has an X in it lolll) because my risk wishy washy brain thinks, oh they only get the raws from CN but do all the lyophilizing and vialing in house on US soil in super clean labs. <--- Yes, believe me, I know this is all smoke and mirrors and it's the raws that are probably contaminated if at all. But while I wait for vendor testing and news to drop of any endo results, I casually pin away from older stock. I think it's just my way of taking at least some of the stressors out of the equation - will it make it through customs? - while I side eye all the endo drama....
He has half way decent pricing especially on his presales. I like having him as a back up.
 
I'm still one of the holdouts, watching everyone buy from CN while I still cling to my US based dealer of choice (begins with N and has an X in it lolll) because my risk wishy washy brain thinks, oh they only get the raws from CN but do all the lyophilizing and vialing in house on US soil in super clean labs. <--- Yes, believe me, I know this is all smoke and mirrors and it's the raws that are probably contaminated if at all. But while I wait for vendor testing and news to drop of any endo results, I casually pin away from older stock. I think it's just my way of taking at least some of the stressors out of the equation - will it make it through customs? - while I side eye all the endo drama....
Solid option IMO. I steer lot's of folks that direction. Much better than paying for compounded and 3P tested allot.
I constantly think it's amazing he's still in the game tho. At some point... well, let's just say, very visible and vulnerable could get messy.
 
Solid option IMO. I steer lot's of folks that direction. Much better than paying for compounded and 3P tested allot.
I constantly think it's amazing he's still in the game tho. At some point... well, let's just say, very visible and vulnerable could get messy.
I got my first R48 kit from him and it was good quality. I'm just now finishing it. The GLP1 pricing is the only thing that keeps me ordering from CN. I ordered some NA Selank Amidate from him, it tested well, and it was reasonable (+20%) considering I got it in 4 days. There's nothing wrong with going that route.
 
I got my first R48 kit from him and it was good quality. I'm just now finishing it. The GLP1 pricing is the only thing that keeps me ordering from CN. I ordered some NA Selank Amidate from him, it tested well, and it was reasonable (+20%) considering I got it in 4 days. There's nothing wrong with going that route.
It's definitely a cost benefit thought process with him. I'm fully aware vendors in CN are much cheaper for the GLP1 peps, but his decent presales of T30 and T60 are the reason I'm set for almost 8 years on that. I calculate in the ease of the CC purchase, really quick (non customs) shipping and overall seamless flow of the vendor testing process. That, to me, is worth paying more so that those factors are out of the equation. I'm stocking up on some of the other peps with him now, and those I just have to be okay with paying considerably higher prices. But again, it's one stop shopping for me, and I'm that type of consumer.
 
How do we get restrictions lifted? Keep getting warning
 
@tedvio --
Really -- take the time to read the New Member Posting Limitations Chili777 posted above -- it's all there.
Getting people to actually read them is the problem.
It's a free gift!
 
Yes, that is true. But we should assume ALL of the "orange cap" vials of T30 come from the same manufacturer and therefore all orange cap vials are contaminated with high endo. We should also assume that vendors selling the orange cap T30 at a significant discount are trying to offload a known bunk product. So....checking the COA can, at the very least, tell you if they are selling an orange cap OR some other type (which would need testing for endos as well).

One might also consider if they wish to do business with a vendor trying to quickly offload bunk peptides at a tantalizing discount for those who don't know better.
I would agree that any orange T30 "on sale" right now is a warning flag, until further testing sorts it out.
What if I told you it is trivial to change the cap...
 
What if I told you it is trivial to change the cap...
I would agree with you. It means next to nothing, but in this case, it's the one indicator people have to go on as known bad. It doesn't mean don't test whatever T30 isn't light orange. That's why others are part of the current testing.
 
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Has anyone heard of/ received white ghk from JEEP or another vendor?
1) I hate to see stuff like this posted on X, but I guess it’s all over Instagram, TikTok, and public sites like this so 😏
2) it’d have been nice if the pic of the top of the kits showed the label on the one with the white pucks. GHK-Basic is white, but if it says Cu like the others, then it’s definitely problem. Getting the wrong peptide due to a vendor mixup is one of my nightmares (like the people who got adipotide instead of…reta (?) if I remember right).
 

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