Endotoxin Warning

[afrington]

Was likely sent before since they've not sent any out since the announcement.

Sent on March 11, 2026!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I dunno. One of us is not from Eastern PA.

Hes an asshole, doesnt like football and if he did it would be the cowboys. I took him off ignore cuz hes always mocking me and now i realize were an hour and a half apart and i have the slightest chance to bump into him. This did alot for my weight lifting and heavy bag as hes been effin with me 3 months.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Any luck getting your Jeep "refund"?

I said id agree to equal/lesser substitute and was surprised to get tracking from Molly this am..

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Sent on March 11, 2026!

They didnt know there was minimum standards till 1st week in April.... the upside is, the black is no way the same batch and has tested well with the other vendors.

 

[CNCCurrency]

Hes an asshole, doesnt like football and if he did it would be the cowboys. I took him off ignore cuz hes always mocking me and now i realize were an hour and a half apart and i have the slightest chance to bump into him. This did alot for my weight lifting and heavy bag as hes been effin with me 3 months.

 

[tedvio]

I said id agree to equal/lesser substitute and was surprised to get tracking from Molly this am..

Same

 

[RetCurious]

I said id agree to equal/lesser substitute and was surprised to get tracking from Molly this am..

I don't know, pay for 600 mg and get 400?
Sure it beats a poke in the eye but still...

 

[gutterguru]

I have actually been pinning the JEEP t30 batches since January. I have been fine. I ordered a t60 kit and an additional t30 kit with black tops. If i have been feeling fine with the "bad t30s" does this mean my particular kit is not effected? Should I chuck it anyway? Is there any news about the black tops or t60s?

 

[Gwynhwyfar]

I have actually been pinning the JEEP t30 batches since January. I have been fine. I ordered a t60 kit and an additional t30 kit with black tops. If i have been feeling fine with the "bad t30s" does this mean my particular kit is not effected? Should I chuck it anyway? Is there any news about the black tops or t60s?

How much do you pin? And Endo is maximum 5 EU per Kg body weight. Perhaps your dose is under this when divided by your weight?

 

[gutterguru]

I pin between 2.5-3mg twice a week. I currently weight 217. I was mid high 220s when I started pinning these lol. I bought mid January and this bad batch has been the only thing I have been pinning since then. I would hate to have to chuck ALL of the JEEP stuff I have.

 

[tedvio]

I have actually been pinning the JEEP t30 batches since January. I have been fine. I ordered a t60 kit and an additional t30 kit with black tops. If i have been feeling fine with the "bad t30s" does this mean my particular kit is not effected? Should I chuck it anyway? Is there any news about the black tops or t60s?

When did you order yours?

 

[gutterguru]

They didnt know there was minimum standards till 1st week in April.... the upside is, the black is no way the same batch and has tested well with the other vendors.

You are saying that the jeep black tops have been fine?

When did you order yours?

The orange tops? January. I 100% have been pinning the bad batch. Same top, same batch number. The black tops I ordered in March.

 

[tedvio]

You are saying that the jeep black tops have been fine?

The orange tops? January. I 100% have been pinning the bad batch. Same top, same batch number. The black tops I ordered in March.

Thx, I have dark orange ordered in November, but she is still replacing.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

You are saying that the jeep black tops have been fine?

The orange tops? January. I 100% have been pinning the bad batch. Same top, same batch number. The black tops I ordered in March.

Mass and purity.... theres individuals and supposedly jeep testing for endotoxins.... few vendors broke 100 until jeep set the record. If it tests under 250 its not a big concern imo, with that said all the endo tests i see come in at 4-80, which is good.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I don't know, pay for 600 mg and get 400?
Sure it beats a poke in the eye but still...

Figured id split the loss and i said id settle for 1 t40.... ill likely use the orange anyway, just at 5mg doses along with 10-12mg reta

 

[tedvio]

I had 5 x T30 kits from November. They are replacing with 3 x R20. I'm fine with that. And again, depending on tests, and how I feel after trying a small amount of (I only use 2.5mg Tirz per week), I may still use it anyway!

 

[itsapinthing]

I just saw JEEP's original f-you, followed by the walk back. (I've been busy). I'll be damned. I'm trying to decide whether this counts as a drama thread, because it may not be a fight but this all IS super dramatic. Tellin my coworkers about it like it's 90 day fiancee.

Based on the f-you and the walk back, I am surprised anyone would buy from them again. If someone willingly sold me potentially dangerous product which is socially understood to help you medicinally, and then sent an f-you email?? They'd be done in my books.

 

[New2ton]

I know not exactly related but I gotta say I'm getting pissed at "Alex". 6 weeks and shipment from China hasn't even updated the US. tracking. I asked for the order March 03. I've requested updates 4 times and no response. I guess they are just ripping people off now? Wtf!

I wasn't aware there was an Alex with JEEP. I just know of Kelly and Molly.

 

[Spork]

Based on the f-you and the walk back, I am surprised anyone would buy from them again. If someone willingly sold me potentially dangerous product which is socially understood to help you medicinally, and then sent an f-you email?? They'd be done in my books.

It's that paradox that could lead one to believe it's actually more safe though.

They tried the original damage control of no damage control. "Oh well, we ain't Eli Lilly, I dunno what to tell you. Get fucked" turned out to be bad for business. Who could have known!?

That's the thing - this was going to be so damning to their reputation that the incident along with their response and the reception to both made them think that from a business sense they needed to now go above and beyond.

What's good for their bottom line and the actual survival of the business turned out to be excellent for their consumers in terms of safety. So they go from a pariah to perhaps setting a gold standard overnight. From zero to hero.

Reminds me of the flight to Vegas I took on September 11, 2002. NOBODY wanted to fly that day, but National Airlines (RIP) was offering $1 flights as a promo because of it. The plane was packed (I was one of them obviously). My thought process was: authorities are going to be on high alert, there's probably no safer day to fly than today. And for $1? Screw it, let's do it!

 

[jordekorn]

It's that paradox that could lead one to believe it's actually more safe though.

They tried the original damage control of no damage control. "Oh well, we ain't Eli Lilly, I dunno what to tell you. Get fucked" turned out to be bad for business. Who could have known!?

That's the thing - this was going to be so damning to their reputation that the incident along with their response and the reception to both made them think that from a business sense they needed to now go above and beyond.

What's good for their bottom line and the actual survival of the business turned out to be excellent for their consumers in terms of safety. So they go from a pariah to perhaps setting a gold standard overnight. From zero to hero.

Reminds me of the flight to Vegas I took on September 11, 2002. NOBODY wanted to fly that day, but National Airlines (RIP) was offering $1 flights as a promo because of it. The plane was packed (I was one of them obviously). My thought process was: authorities are going to be on high alert, there's probably no safer day to fly than today. And for $1? Screw it, let's do it!

This is kind of how I felt, like this would be the safest time 🤷‍♀️ Also, if the test is 120$ for endos, and they know what batches are made the same, how many vials do they really need to check? First, middle, end, and if all safe, you know everything is safe in that run.
(This has me wondering how many vials per run are made, I’m assuming alot, but I don’t know shit really)

 

[Waterheater]

This is kind of how I felt, like this would be the safest time 🤷‍♀️ Also, if the test is 120$ for endos, and they know what batches are made the same, how many vials do they really need to check? First, middle, end, and if all safe, you know everything is safe in that run.
(This has me wondering how many vials per run are made, I’m assuming alot, but I don’t know shit really)

Or how many batches get the same lid and batchnumber to cut cost? If they don’t share these details they got something to hide imo. 120$ each endo test adds up

 

[5byfive]

Multiple vendors were shipping Tirz.with Orange caps recently. Some were slightly different colors, some had ridges some didn't. Total coincidence that there were multiple T30 orange caps. Cap can be a signal of a batch but it is not a reliable indicator of anything. There are a bunch of finishers randomly switching caps, maybe when switching batches, more likely whenever they run out. I think the major deciding factors are what's around and what's cheep.

 

[agussie]

I hoarded Jeeps T30, lol... I use Reta, so it was a part of my 'i need to have 10 years worth of peptides'. And now it's bad. Maybe mine is. I don't know.
Grey won't disappear.

Send Molly or Kelly a msg. They may replace depending on which batches you have

 

[hoobz]

It's that paradox that could lead one to believe it's actually more safe though.

They tried the original damage control of no damage control. "Oh well, we ain't Eli Lilly, I dunno what to tell you. Get fucked" turned out to be bad for business. Who could have known!?

That's the thing - this was going to be so damning to their reputation that the incident along with their response and the reception to both made them think that from a business sense they needed to now go above and beyond.

The thing is, the only reason they went back on their original f- you message is not for consumer safety, but THEIR own business.
Maybe I'm too silly expecting ethics of a Chinese grey manufacturer, but for me this kind of behavior is a no-no for life.

 

[5byfive]

The thing is, the only reason they went back on their original f- you message is not for consumer safety, but THEIR own business.
Maybe I'm too silly expecting ethics of a Chinese grey manufacturer, but for me this kind of behavior is a no-no for life.

Yeah, but that is really the only indicator of how you can trust any business. If you rely on anything other than them doing what is in their best interest you are kidding yourself. McDonalds doesn't make disessions based on anything other than their own business. Is McDonalds a great company? No, but you trust them not to poison you (insert McDonalds food is poison comeback here) becuse it would hurt their business if they did. I'm not saying I trust Jeep at this point, but them realizing they need to make changes to save their business makes it more likely I would in the future.

 

[itsapinthing]

It's that paradox that could lead one to believe it's actually more safe though.

They tried the original damage control of no damage control. "Oh well, we ain't Eli Lilly, I dunno what to tell you. Get fucked" turned out to be bad for business. Who could have known!?

That's the thing - this was going to be so damning to their reputation that the incident along with their response and the reception to both made them think that from a business sense they needed to now go above and beyond.

What's good for their bottom line and the actual survival of the business turned out to be excellent for their consumers in terms of safety. So they go from a pariah to perhaps setting a gold standard overnight. From zero to hero.

Reminds me of the flight to Vegas I took on September 11, 2002. NOBODY wanted to fly that day, but National Airlines (RIP) was offering $1 flights as a promo because of it. The plane was packed (I was one of them obviously). My thought process was: authorities are going to be on high alert, there's probably no safer day to fly than today. And for $1? Screw it, let's do it!

The thing is, the only reason they went back on their original f- you message is not for consumer safety, but THEIR own business.
Maybe I'm too silly expecting ethics of a Chinese grey manufacturer, but for me this kind of behavior is a no-no for life.

While I agree that it COULD lead to better practices, thinking this MUST be the case is a bit of a fallacy.

Especially when involving the factors of business, China's geographical location, Chinese laws, Chinese business mindset/culture and the fact this is a grey market.

I am in business and deal with with a lot of different people from developers to hedge fund managers that travel to China to scientists and doctors and I will tell you this; They do not give a flying fuck about the foreign customer and only did what they did for the sake of the business and the all mighty dollar (or in this case Yuan).

I know without a doubt they will determine how high they need to go in quality control to ensure they lose no more customers and will stop right there. There's an extremely low chance of any legal ramification if their 'research chemicals' harm a foreigner, so there's no incentive to go any further than they must to keep their clients

While I love your idea that they may now be the gold standard I highly doubt this is what they're striving for. It's more like, "what standard are people good with before they leave us. Bronze? Cool, let's do bronze". Which, I guess, is better than nothing!

If I was running this business I'd be putting a good chunk of profits back into testing, R&D and refining the manufacturing process; but that's me and I care about my customers

 

[DragonOfTheSea]

While I agree that it COULD lead to better practices, thinking this MUST be the case is a bit of a fallacy.

Especially when involving the factors of business, China's geographical location, Chinese laws, Chinese business mindset/culture and the fact this is a grey market.

I am in business and deal with with a lot of different people from developers to hedge fund managers that travel to China to scientists and doctors and I will tell you this; They do not give a flying fuck about the foreign customer and only did what they did for the sake of the business and the all mighty dollar (or in this case Yuan).

I know without a doubt they will determine how high they need to go in quality control to ensure they lose no more customers and will stop right there. There's an extremely low chance of any legal ramification if their 'research chemicals' harm a foreigner, so there's no incentive to go any further than they must to keep their clients

While I love your idea that they may now be the gold standard I highly doubt this is what they're striving for. It's more like, "what standard are people good with before they leave us. Bronze? Cool, let's do bronze". Which, I guess, is better than nothing!

If I was running this business I'd be putting a good chunk of profits back into testing, R&D and refining the manufacturing process; but that's me and I care about my customers

Yeah, I’m in this camp right here.. both in realistic expectations and what they probably “should” be doing, but likely aren’t. I try not to be cynical, but always realistic.

The thing is, the only reason they went back on their original f- you message is not for consumer safety, but THEIR own business.
Maybe I'm too silly expecting ethics of a Chinese grey manufacturer, but for me this kind of behavior is a no-no for life.

Agreed

 

[Rolltide61]

Based on the f-you and the walk back, I am surprised anyone would buy from them again. If someone willingly sold me potentially dangerous product which is socially understood to help you medicinally, and then sent an f-you email?? They'd be done in my books.

You are exactly right. My motto is "screw me once, F#$% you forever".

 

[Rolltide61]

I said id agree to equal/lesser substitute

AND a happy ending.

 

[blulynx]

When were the earliest orange caps with the endo issue sold? Also is the smooth top orange (non ridged top) T30 known to share the same issue?

I'm wondering this too. I have smooth top orange cap T30 (from a different vendor) that has the same batch number as orange caps with outer ridge that other people received. I have no idea if we're looking at different batches or not. No reply yet from the vendor.