Appelss12
GLP-1 Apprentice
How do you know if the endotoxin is to high?
Endotoxin Warning
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jordekorn
GLP-1 Enthusiast
It was tested by a group through janoshik. (Several people get together and send it multiple vials of product and pick different tests, pay for different tests, like endotoxins purity and mass and others you can choose from) And the vials came back with very high test results.
desinr-gal
GLP-1 Specialist
Also one of our members posted being ill after pinning.
Kadeeglp123
GLP-1 Apprentice
I'd like to know how many possible other benders did not put an orange cap on their T 30 and if that is a possibility to do that during that batch make because every vendor could then change out their batch number and switch the cab because money is money and that's what they're in it for not our health so I don't know that just kept going around my head like it doesn't really matter what color cap it is or what batch number it is. I think anything made between December and possibly February or March. Somebody needs to come in and bring them all back in and just throw them in the trash and start over my opinion, but these forms are made to educate each other and to help each other learning and grow so the endotoxin scare has definitely opened up my eyes into doing what I can do as part of the public to try to keep my fellow man safe who's in this with me thank you for opening up this discussion because I get scared thinking I am gonna get sick because I inject a huge dose and since that scare, I I have changed my vendors. I have changed my transponder into a different transponder and I definitely have felt a huge difference internally not saying that I was sick from anything what I'm saying is that how do I just not know for sure for sure unless it's tested and if I'm gonna spend that kind of money every month testing then I might as well. Just go to a doctor locally but thank you for opening up this discussion because a lot of us have thoughts and ideas and we need to get them out. We need to talk about them.
If its allowed, could you please explain how we become a 'paying member' of these group tests??
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
I joined ur group for a cag jeep test when you and dragon started. Im back in when we test pphk/homo.... intensely curious as their cap colors change weekly....ive seen 3 different R30 colors in less than a month and wonder if they source anything/everything they can. Box of 100kits, 20 kits, 10 kits, whatever.
Do yall have a new discord yet, please invite me. (Ton of members want in as you prolly know) Will Zipp let you recruit/post here? Please do.....
5byfive
GLP-1 Enthusiast
That would be a lot of work when probably 95% of their customers have no idea what's going on so I don't see that happening.
You are right that cap color isn't a guarantee of anything. If they ran out of orange part way through the batch they would just start using the next color. But cap color along with batch and timeframe are indicators that suggest products may have made around the same time frame and are more likely to be of similar quality. Unless you are willing to pay to test every kit you get yourself, its the best you are going to do. There are no guarantees in any of this (other than manufacturer/vendor self interest) so we use the indicators we have to try to mitigate the risk the best we can.
Just got the results. So, they aren't as accurate/complete as janoshik as I guess maybe they don't dilute as much as Jano does. Here was some of the text from the report provided to me. This was for dark orange caps bought in Nov 2025:
"Extended Dilution Series (Characterization Only — beyond validated test parameters): At the client's request, an extended dilution series from 1:64 through 1:256 was prepared from the same reconstituted sample in the same analytical session and incubated in parallel with the compendial series. Firm gel clots were observed at 1:64, 1:128, and 1:256, indicating endotoxin concentration of ≥ 32 EU/mL (≥ 96 EU/vial). Results beyond 1:32 fall outside validated test parameters and are not compendially valid; they are provided for informational and characterization purposes only and should not be used for regulatory pass/fail determinations."
"Extended Dilution Series (Characterization Only — beyond validated test parameters): At the client's request, an extended dilution series from 1:64 through 1:256 was prepared from the same reconstituted sample in the same analytical session and incubated in parallel with the compendial series. Firm gel clots were observed at 1:64, 1:128, and 1:256, indicating endotoxin concentration of ≥ 32 EU/mL (≥ 96 EU/vial). Results beyond 1:32 fall outside validated test parameters and are not compendially valid; they are provided for informational and characterization purposes only and should not be used for regulatory pass/fail determinations."
Of and tested where ?
T30 orange cap, tested by Testides
yes but what t30, 2025 or 2026
As stated in my post:
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This was for dark orange caps bought in Nov 2025:
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Same vendor responsible for the original alert..
interesting
Maiaao
GLP-1 Novice
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Yikes, so the dark orange caps aren't safe. Seems like cap colours mean nothing since some dark orange caps tested fine by ls testing.
Does you cap have a ridge on it?
Cap colours mean absolutely nothing apparently.
Sorry not the greatest lighting. Honestly I think people put way too much faith in cap color, and specific vendors. If you think the vendor in question had their own warehouse and were the only ones selling this.... Whether or not its safe....I dunno, the test they did for me concluded there was more than 96. That could mean 100, could mean 2000. Maybe someone who gets it tested at Jano will share. But I've also read a couple of accounts of folks saying they have used the T30's from last year with no issue. Also I just finished an orange capped T30 from another well known vendor bought at the same time (around Nov 2025) and had no issues...
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Maiaao
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Thank you very much for taking the time! This proves without doubt that cap colours mean nothing.
I have SPB T30 orange caps but there was no demand for testing when I asked in the group. I'll try again I guess. It makes no sense to test alone because the testing cost is double that of the vials.
I imagine what happens is that there's a Turkish bazaar type market where all the wholesalers and sell their stuff. The vendors and others go to this market and walk around, picking kits from the wholesalers. If there's insufficient stock from one wholesaler, they'll just go to another who has similar cap colour in stock and get it from there. This all then gets labelled as a single batch because they are shady people who don't give a fuck. This is all just a theory.
Test everything everyone!
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FarmgirlRebel
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Okay...my COA's came in from KBR Kepai Beauty Research.
Tirzepatide is 99.9% pure
Endotoxins <0.5
Whew...I was worried and concerned I'd have to toss it all...but happy for the good news on this batch of orange cap that I purchased on sale from KBR
Tirzepatide is 99.9% pure
Endotoxins <0.5
Whew...I was worried and concerned I'd have to toss it all...but happy for the good news on this batch of orange cap that I purchased on sale from KBR
jordekorn
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I just got a replacement shipment tracking from jeep Molly for 4 T30. I ran straight over. I should have probably asked for coas. Imma go do that actually🥴 🚶🏼♀️
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Specialist
You had me at Turkish bazaar....
Tcah2456
GLP-1 Novice
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Discussion point below hoping someone with better science background will jump in.
Also just as a side note how are endotoxins distributed with a vial
I believe endotoxins have variable molecular weight dependent on what there were before dying and can also can stick together…….now to do an endotoxin reading presumably the vial contents would be fully mixed????
PLEASE SOMEONE JUMP IN ON THIS!!!
As I am no expert on testing!!
Thus creating an even distribution of endotoxin for the vial then calculate endotoxin by volume in vial????????????????
But once reconstituted and put in the fridge the endotoxins could conceivably sink to the bottom or clump together in a corner or something…….
Anyhooooooo
Is there a possibility of accidentally withdrawing the entire endotoxins population in one go???????????
Which would obviously make the endo concentration attributed to a batch completely variable each injection.
Sorry for the ramble the thought got me thinking the adhd wants me to find out but also ask 1000 other things at the same time and the insomnia lets me think for too long.
Love to all
T
I lived in China for 2 years, for work. I was never involved in peptides while I was there, but I was loosely involved in some textile production (hobby, not my full-time job while there).
What you describe is nearly exactly what I saw in textiles.
laansasa
GLP-1 Enthusiast
Same here. I have ordered from him the ones the chinese US warehouse don't have and it is less risky.
dancs
GLP-1 Novice
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You'll need to join the TG group STG. There, you'll find a whole room dedicated to group testing. Just remember to be patient because not everyone will get the same testing done as you. Or maybe they will later on. Or maybe they already did? You'll need to dig deep to find your answer(s).
And usually, in group testings, you'll send the funds over to Janoshik NOT to an individual. If an individual asks you to send funds to them, DONT DO IT. UNLESS, the particular case is unique/bizarre and only in specific circumstances, the cases being lead by reputable and well known persons, would be understandable.
Due diligence.
Can I ask, who did you test with and what was the cost?
