Energy and mots c

[TurnipMate]

Hello all, I have had energy/fatigue problems for a couple months now starting before I ran any peptide cycles. I have been in a pretty consistent calorie deficit for a little over a year now starting at 220 lbs and now down to ~140 lbs. I am 18 years and get a consistent ~8 hours of sleep and pretty high sleep scores, however I do have many wake ups every night. I have ran though 9 vials of mots c and hadn't noticed any results energy wise. I also run growth hormone nightly not for energy but worth mentioning as people report better sleep from it. I am looking into SS-31 for energy and also looking at a DSIP/Epitalon stack to possibly limit my nightly wake ups. Does anyone have advice or have a similar experience to share or anything that was a "game changer"? Thank you!

 

[need4tren]

It’s not a stimulant energy, it’s subtle, feel less tire type of energy, if you already feel pretty good without it I don’t know how good it will make you feel.

Training really buries me, i wake up feeling like shit, mots c and some coffee and methylene blue and I’m ready to go

 

[Rezwalker]

mots-c is garbage
might hurt you more than good ( at least for me )
try 5 amino 1mq
it gets me going tru the day in a good deficit
and try slow carb before going to bed might help if your on Reta

 

[Hichewgoddess]

You’re young so your system is probably performing optimally. It’s my understanding that mots and ss31 are to help fix damaged cells and make them run better. So since you haven’t had time to wreck your cells it won’t do much. It would be like mopping a clean floor and wondering why there was no changes to the floor. It was already good to begin with.

Have you had any blood work done to rule out deficiencies or to see if your thyroid is working well? Are you tracking macros and making sure you’re eating enough? If you’ve been in a deficit for a while that could be the case.

 

[smartymarti]

Had mots -c, totally wiped me out 50 ur old 40 mins cardio 4 days a week couldn’t finish workout due to lack of energy , what the next best thing or do I take it night time

 

[Hichewgoddess]

mots-c is garbage
might hurt you more than good ( at least for me )
try 5 amino 1mq
it gets me going tru the day in a good deficit
and try slow carb before going to bed might help if your on Reta

I def think mots is useful to some, but it’s highly dependent on the needs of your body. I personally love mots and use it to keep fatigue at bay. But I’m also a 38 year old mom of 3 with lipedema and a history of obesity. Sooo ymmv.

 

[Don]

I honestly don't think MOTS-C is the best option for ur situation if the goal is simply to feel more energetic

MOTS-C can help maintain metabolic function during a calorie deficit and may improve how efficiently ur body uses fat for fuel, but that doesn't necessarily translate into higher energy levels. In some cases, it can feel more like adding a bit of extra cardio demand to the equation, u burn fuel more efficiently, but u don't necessarily feel less fatigued.

Considering u have gone from 220 lbs to around 140 lbs and have been dieting for over a year, I'd be looking at the possibility that the fatigue is coming from prolonged energy restriction rather than a lack of the right peptide. If the deficit has been fairly aggressive or sustained for a long time, peptides often won't overcome the lethargy that comes with that. Trust me, I know how suffocating a long cut can feel. Waking up during the night is also pretty common when calories get really low.

That said, the experience ur looking for is more in the steroid realm than the peptide realm. Having high energy levels and little to no lethargy deep into a cut is a different conversation. MOTS-C may help with nutrient utilization and metabolic efficiency, but that doesn't necessarily mean u will feel more energized. In ur case, it sounds more like ur body has been dieting hard for a very long time than a problem that another peptide is likely to solve

 

[Rezwalker]

I def think mots is useful to some, but it’s highly dependent on the needs of your body. I personally love mots and use it to keep fatigue at bay. But I’m also a 38 year old mom of 3 with lipedema and a history of obesity. Sooo ymmv.

for me and ppl around me we all got huge lumps with mots-c and anaphylactic shock lymphatic system for my part

 

[birdwhacker]

MotsC isn't going to help you with that kind of tiredness. It's better as a pre-workout for cardio, even then you might not notice it.

Epithalon for sleep is amazing. I wouldn't waste money with DSIP. Stack with pinealon instead.

You likely need to address this from a nutrition standpoint. Are you taking a B complex with active B6 and riboflavin as P5P and R5P? Are you getting active thiamine as benfotiamine? Are you supplementing vitamin D with fatty meals and fish oil? Where is your choline coming from? Have you tried a sublingual B12 complex? Do you know or suspect your methylation status? Have you ever tried TMG/Betaine to boost methylation and catecholamines, and used glycine + taurine at night as a methyl sink? Do you take zinc? Do you balance your zinc with copper? Do you take magnesium? Do you take boron? You're taking SS31, are you also supporting your mitochondria with CoQ10 as Ubiquinol, with PQQ, with carnitine, with berberine? Have you tried ALCAR? Tryptophan? Tyrosine? The other trace minerals, selenium, chromium, vanadium, those are often sold in a single complex.

Peptides are the very least of your concern. GLP, SS31, epithalon, it's all good shit, but it's not going to solve your problem. Taking a fuck load of expensive supplements just might. Worked for me, though it took me a long time to get it dialed in.

If you give me a budget and a history of what you've taken and what works, I'd be happy to work up a stack for you or some simple things to get started with. I love fish oil for instance, but I can't honestly say that it does anything noticable for me. But, I know my state usually worsens when I don't have it for 3 weeks.