Finally pinning Tesamorelin and Ipamorelin

[Mr. Blonde]

Just started blasting these two tonight. Went straight to 2mg of Tesa (like clinical trials) and 250mcg of Ipa (might raise upto 500mcg) but have read mixed stuff on the saturation dosage of Ipa.

If anyone has any experience with these two, running a similar protocol or completely different, let us all know! Thanks in advance!!

 

[vewdew34]

I do 2mg Tesa and 300mcg of Ipa, so far I only been doing it for 1 week so I cant say much so far. Time will tell how good it will work but lots of people really talk good about it so I think it will help get rid of that stubborn visceral fat.

 

[Zydeceltico]

Just started blasting these two tonight. Went straight to 2mg of Tesa (like clinical trials) and 250mcg of Ipa (might raise upto 500mcg) but have read mixed stuff on the saturation dosage of Ipa.

If anyone has any experience with these two, running a similar protocol or completely different, let us all know! Thanks in advance!!

My RS began running exactly that combined protocol and dosage 5 on and 2 off since August 1 on top of 7.5 Tirz weekly when it was observed that RS was beginning to lose muscle instead of stubborn VAT.

RS's waist in that amount of time (8/1 - 10/1) has gone from 44.5" to 40.375" with muscle gain if anything. The majority of weight/bloat/fat has/was been visceral fat. RS did not have a lot of fat elsewhere.

CAVEAT (so I don't get creamed - flame avoidance): there is no scientific basis for going 5 on and 2 off. That just seems to work for my RS. YMMV
CAVEAT (to be clear): I make no claims that tesa/ipa has anything to do with RS's VAT loss as tesa was only clinically proven to help specific HIV patients - a population that the RS does not belong too.
CAVEAT (just because): Researcher has yet to observe if VAT returns post current tesa/ipa cycle which RS is scheduled to complete and take a break from in November (also no basis in research studies - this is my ad hoc milestone and measuring marker). Clinical trials reflect that is likely. Adjustments will be made as required.

 

[Ragu1]

Just started blasting these two tonight. Went straight to 2mg of Tesa (like clinical trials) and 250mcg of Ipa (might raise upto 500mcg) but have read mixed stuff on the saturation dosage of Ipa.

If anyone has any experience with these two, running a similar protocol or completely different, let us all know! Thanks in advance!!

Ran similar protocol for 8 weeks 3 times inpast 2 years. The only thing I would recommend is don't be worried about initial water weight gain. I've gained4-7 pounds, but once off cycle dropped it within a week and waistline was smaller. Good luck

 

[Mr. Blonde]

And as soon as it began it has ended. Tesamorelin treats me just like cjc, fucked up sleep and itchy spot. Guess I'm just in that group of people it affects.

Got 9 vials of tesamorelin and ipamorelin for sale lol

 

[Zydeceltico]

And as soon as it began it has ended. Tesamorelin treats me just like cjc, fucked up sleep and itchy spot. Guess I'm just in that group of people it affects.

FWIW: I found, and you probably already know this, that 2-3 hours of fasting before and after pinning has been recommended (for a different reason) and my RS did find that greatly minimized, if not negated, sides. ymmv

 

[HumanusExMachina]

Did my first tesa/ipa/cjc last night. Slept really well (for the first time in weeks). Got an itchy slightly red ISR that lasted about 40 minutes. It's an annoyance, but I can probably deal with being annoyed. We'll see how it goes over time.

 

[CTLax]

I gained a lot of water weight on a similar protocol. It seemed just lurk in my feet and hands. It was annoying. The water did come off once I stopped. Would I do it again. I’m not sure. I plan on checking out other stuff before revisiting

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Yep, I was definitely fasted before don't want it to not work or fuck up my A1c. GHRH and secretagogues just aren't for me. However, I might try actual hgh at a later time.

 

[vewdew34]

I do get itchy after pin lasts about 30 minutes and yes same water retention but that's the price one has to pay.

 

[HumanusExMachina]

Second dose of tesa/ipa/cjc last night. Only minor itchiness for 20-30 minutes. Slept really well again. Still too early to know if it's doing anything else for me. I'm still deciding if I'm going to take the weekend off or run it for a full cycle without skipping.

 

[HumanusExMachina]

Follow-up from yesterday: I decided to run through the weekend. Sleep was still better than prior to starting the tesa/ipa/cjc. Not sure if I'm starting to get the water retention, but my weight was up a tick this morning.

There's still an ISR of itching and minor redness. Someone (on here I think) suggested using a massage gun on the site. I tried that last night and the itching went away (and didn't come back) in well under a minute of using the massager. Not sure what that's actually doing, but if it works, I'm going to stick with it.

 

[HumanusExMachina]

Just for the record -- a week later and about 10 days into tesamorelin and ipamorelin/cjc. (Since I started posting about it in this thread, I figured I may as well follow up here.)

Minor ISR is now the equivalent of a mosquito bite for about 5 minutes and then it vanishes.

Still sleeping well. No water retention. My HRV (heart rate variability) doubled when I first started pinning tesa/ipa/cjc and then faded back by about 10-15%. Just for clarity, HRV is supposed to be higher than mine was normally pre-tesa.

My emotional state is a lot better. I no longer have a grumpy-old-guy response to most things in the world.

I'm now planning to cycle with remaining on it for 12 weeks, then off for 4 weeks.

 

[Mr. Blonde]

I stopped. The gh secretagogues aren't for me. No worries, I like trying different things. Now on to some other shit.

 

[tallclarknhandsome]

Does the ipa make you hungry? I played with some mk677 but it made me ravenous

 

[Mr. Blonde]

Yep, any thing that s ghrelin agonist (hunger hormone). I did it right before bed and would be starving before falling asleep.

I haven't tried mk yet but everything ive read about it and heard on podcast said that it would make you hungry and to be mindful not to chunk up.

 

[Asm3489]

Just for the record -- a week later and about 10 days into tesamorelin and ipamorelin/cjc. (Since I started posting about it in this thread, I figured I may as well follow up here.)

Minor ISR is now the equivalent of a mosquito bite for about 5 minutes and then it vanishes.

Still sleeping well. No water retention. My HRV (heart rate variability) doubled when I first started pinning tesa/ipa/cjc and then faded back by about 10-15%. Just for clarity, HRV is supposed to be higher than mine was normally pre-tesa.

My emotional state is a lot better. I no longer have a grumpy-old-guy response to most things in the world.

I'm now planning to cycle with remaining on it for 12 weeks, then off for 4 weeks.

What is your dose?