For those of you who were referred here via a redditor....

[gershon]

On reddit, I was buying from Arctic and Skye. Thanks to his info in the spreadsheet, I felt better about purchaing from these sites.

I think I paid over 300 dollars for 30mg of Tirz from Skye. I paid 240 for 10 vials of 30mg Tirz from an overseas supplier. One other vendor (Tuk) I thin I paid 330 for 10 vials @30mg per.

So while I think Skye is doing a fine job, the markup is incredible.

Then by orders of magnitude, I'm also paying 500 bucks a month for 3 months of a subscription from a telemedicine provider (currently on Sema with them). I have one more month in my contract and then I'm cancelling.

So each handler of your product adds around 10x to the price. And when you're anchored at name brand prices, it all seems like a better deal.

the forums have really been good places for discussion and also getting a glimpse into how these markets work.
my in-laws were paying $300/month ($3600/year) for compounded tirzepatide and the price would go up when the dose went up! I ordered a year's worth of tirzepatide at their current dose for $300.....

 

[keangkong]

does anyone want to slap together a canned response we can use for the endless “I’m new who should I buy from” posts, and we can race to see who can reply with it first each time it’s asked? Jist should be “read” unless the gator site is accepting these folks now and we can send them over there for hand holding instead of our special brand of rugged self sufficiency

Refer them to https://www.reddit.com/r/tirzepatidehelp/, https://discord.gg/kUG6tAQQMh, and https://t.me/+KggDbbJkuy85NzMx. All are essentially run by the same people. The person in charge of the Telegram site is u/stairmaster1 from this forum. Stairmaster1 has an incredible amount of patience and obviously enjoys educating the people who know extremely little in this area. He also started the Reddit group, although he has since been permanently banned from Reddit. The glp1forum.com is great bunch of people who know a great deal about glp-1 drugs, however you're terrible at answering the basic questions. It's not that you state anything wrong however you basically ask people to achieve a level of knowledge in this area that many of them will never attain. I'm speaking generally; if anything insists that you're usually helpful, you probably are. Do the people at any of the three groups I've mentioned have the same knowledge as the members of this forum? No. However, folks new to grey will still receive good advice. I use the Telegram group, this forum, and Alligator's new forum. All provide help to people. All three groups, and the two others that I mentioned, are run by people who are devoted to helping others learn about GLP-1 drugs and all do so without attempting to make a profit from doing so; I'm excluding folks who are clearly labelled as vendors. I definitely fit within the don't know what's he's talking about category being a newbie, although I've tried to avoid asking the questions that will get me mocked on this forum. I ask my "dumb" questions elsewhere. However, I think I'd be even stupider if I didn't ask the questions for fear of looking dumb.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Refer them to https://www.reddit.com/r/tirzepatidehelp/, https://discord.gg/kUG6tAQQMh, and https://t.me/+KggDbbJkuy85NzMx. All are essentially run by the same people. The person in charge of the Telegram site is u/stairmaster1 from this forum. Stairmaster1 has an incredible amount of patience and obviously enjoys educating the people who know extremely little in this area. He also started the Reddit group, although he has since been permanently banned from Reddit. The glp1forum.com is great bunch of people who know a great deal about glp-1 drugs, however you're terrible at answering the basic questions. It's not that you state anything wrong however you basically ask people to achieve a level of knowledge in this area that many of them will never attain. I'm speaking generally; if anything insists that you're usually helpful, you probably are. Do the people at any of the three groups I've mentioned have the same knowledge as the members of this forum? No. However, folks new to grey will still receive good advice. I use the Telegram group, this forum, and Alligator's new forum. All provide help to people. All three groups, and the two others that I mentioned, are run by people who are devoted to helping others learn about GLP-1 drugs and all do so without attempting to make a profit from doing so; I'm excluding folks who are clearly labelled as vendors. I definitely fit within the don't know what's he's talking about category being a newbie, although I've tried to avoid asking the questions that will get me mocked on this forum. I ask my "dumb" questions elsewhere. However, I think I'd be even stupider if I didn't ask the questions for fear of looking dumb.

This is terrific

 

[geoguy78]

Refer them to https://www.reddit.com/r/tirzepatidehelp/, https://discord.gg/kUG6tAQQMh, and https://t.me/+KggDbbJkuy85NzMx. All are essentially run by the same people. The person in charge of the Telegram site is u/stairmaster1 from this forum. Stairmaster1 has an incredible amount of patience and obviously enjoys educating the people who know extremely little in this area. He also started the Reddit group, although he has since been permanently banned from Reddit. The glp1forum.com is great bunch of people who know a great deal about glp-1 drugs, however you're terrible at answering the basic questions. It's not that you state anything wrong however you basically ask people to achieve a level of knowledge in this area that many of them will never attain. I'm speaking generally; if anything insists that you're usually helpful, you probably are. Do the people at any of the three groups I've mentioned have the same knowledge as the members of this forum? No. However, folks new to grey will still receive good advice. I use the Telegram group, this forum, and Alligator's new forum. All provide help to people. All three groups, and the two others that I mentioned, are run by people who are devoted to helping others learn about GLP-1 drugs and all do so without attempting to make a profit from doing so; I'm excluding folks who are clearly labelled as vendors. I definitely fit within the don't know what's he's talking about category being a newbie, although I've tried to avoid asking the questions that will get me mocked on this forum. I ask my "dumb" questions elsewhere. However, I think I'd be even stupider if I didn't ask the questions for fear of looking dumb.

In all fairness, forums such as this don't lend themselves well to asking quick questions and getting quick responses. Reddit is the perfect forum for that, but unfortunately gray market peptide discussion is bannable when the answers given are at the level of detail that is often being requested. If this forum was heavily moderated, then I think a pinned "quick questions" type thread would be great. But that's where the intensive moderation is needed, because there are going to be stragglers new to the forum that insist on clogging the main forum with "how much water do I mix" questions. It's too bad reddit is so bad about this topic, because it really IS the perfect format for newbie questions.

 

[brentm]

In all fairness, forums such as this don't lend themselves well to asking quick questions and getting quick responses. Reddit is the perfect forum for that, but unfortunately gray market peptide discussion is bannable when the answers given are at the level of detail that is often being requested.

What's the difference between Reddit and this forum? Aren't there just humans on the other end of the keyboard on both?

If this forum was heavily moderated, then I think a pinned "quick questions" type thread would be great. But that's where the intensive moderation is needed, because there are going to be stragglers new to the forum that insist on clogging the main forum with "how much water do I mix" questions.

What makes you think it isn't heavily moderated?

It's too bad reddit is so bad about this topic, because it really IS the perfect format for newbie questions.

I still fail to see how Reddit is "the perfect format".... it's fucking threaded just like a forum. Up/Down votes?

I think this forum is just not noob friendly.

Say it like it is and quit beating around the bush. It's a heavily moderated, strongly opinionated forum with some vocal core members who act like they were born with the knowledge of how to gray market.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

What's the difference between Reddit and this forum? Aren't there just humans on the other end of the keyboard on both?



What makes you think it isn't heavily moderated?



I still fail to see how Reddit is "the perfect format".... it's fucking threaded just like a forum. Up/Down votes?

I think this forum is just not noob friendly.

Say it like it is and quit beating around the bush. It's a heavily moderated, strongly opinionated forum with some vocal core members who act like they were born with the knowledge of how to gray market.

Someone needs a sandwich and a nap

 

[brentm]

Someone needs a sandwich and a nap

I mean, I'm not wrong.

It's not intended to be mean spirited. It's the atmosphere as it was configured. Which is perfectly fine.

Sure recon questions are annoying. I'm not going to be an apologist for the noobs either. But I think sometimes some people are just super nervous about both asking good questions, and taking the plunge.

Sure, some people forgot they were noobs once too. They probably had their hand held their first time just like the desire for handholding the next noob post.

But eventually those new people can become great friends or great help. And I think it's short sighted to be unfriendly to newcomers.

But I don't pay the bills here. I just show up once in a while to shit post.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I mean, I'm not wrong.

It's not intended to be mean spirited. It's the atmosphere as it was configured. Which is perfectly fine.

Sure recon questions are annoying. I'm not going to be an apologist for the noobs either. But I think sometimes some people are just super nervous about both asking good questions, and taking the plunge.

Sure, some people forgot they were noobs once too. They probably had their hand held their first time just like the desire for handholding the next noob post.

But eventually those new people can become great friends or great help. And I think it's short sighted to be unfriendly to newcomers.

But I don't pay the bills here. I just show up once in a while to shit post.

Fair. The idea behind a canned response was not to be mean to newcomers, it was to have a response that can set them on a path that is (a) helpful for where they’re at and (b) consistent with the self-reliant philosophy of this forum. I was being a bit of a dick when I said it should say “read,” but the idea behind that tongue in cheek way of putting was indeed to capture the above. Right now someone asking “who do I buy from” is likely to get a range of responses from helpful to cruel to scam depending on who sees it first and what mood they’re in, which is the issue I am aiming to address.

 

[MiniatureSnail]

Hear me out...........
We could feed them to Tracy.

Post in thread 'For those of you who were referred here via a redditor....' https://glp1forum.com/threads/for-those-of-you-who-were-referred-here-via-a-redditor.1221/post-15418

Copycat

 

[Raptor]

What's the difference between Reddit and this forum? Aren't there just humans on the other end of the keyboard on both?

The difference between Reddit and this forum, in my experience, goes beyond just having humans behind the keyboards on both platforms. It’s about the culture and how people choose to engage.

If I can be completely honest, I typically prefer to observe and learn here rather than post. For a long time, this forum felt like a reliable, welcoming place where I could find information and support. However, that perception shifted when I attempted to participate and was met with hostility—not for anything inflammatory, but simply for expressing support for someone another member strongly opposes.

Right or wrong, the way I was treated speaks volumes about those who responded, especially given the way they often present themselves as open and helpful. It completely validated my initial hesitation to engage here. It’s disappointing how quickly a space you admire and a group you respect can lose their value when hostility replaces constructive dialogue.

So, to answer the question: the key difference is the willingness to truly help and guide others. And sadly, that seems to have been lost here.

 

[BenevolentMrTang]

The difference between Reddit and this forum, in my experience, goes beyond just having humans behind the keyboards on both platforms. It’s about the culture and how people choose to engage.

If I can be completely honest, I typically prefer to observe and learn here rather than post. For a long time, this forum felt like a reliable, welcoming place where I could find information and support. However, that perception shifted when I attempted to participate and was met with hostility—not for anything inflammatory, but simply for expressing support for someone another member strongly opposes.

Right or wrong, the way I was treated speaks volumes about those who responded, especially given the way they often present themselves as open and helpful. It completely validated my initial hesitation to engage here. It’s disappointing how quickly a space you admire and a group you respect can lose their value when hostility replaces constructive dialogue.

So, to answer the question: the key difference is the willingness to truly help and guide others. And sadly, that seems to have been lost here.

I completely agree with this post. This forum is not welcoming to newcomers. I've participated in various forums (and moderated several) on a wide range of topics since Internet forums were established. This one has some good info, but it's, without question, the least welcoming forum I have experienced, going all the way back to the 90s. Buncha jackanapes here (along with some decent people).

 

[Glp1judd]

I’m starting to think putting grey market drugs and sharp needles in the hands of people who can’t (or won’t) read directions may not be foolproof.

 

[brentm]

The difference between Reddit and this forum, in my experience, goes beyond just having humans behind the keyboards on both platforms. It’s about the culture and how people choose to engage.

If I can be completely honest, I typically prefer to observe and learn here rather than post. For a long time, this forum felt like a reliable, welcoming place where I could find information and support. However, that perception shifted when I attempted to participate and was met with hostility—not for anything inflammatory, but simply for expressing support for someone another member strongly opposes.

Right or wrong, the way I was treated speaks volumes about those who responded, especially given the way they often present themselves as open and helpful. It completely validated my initial hesitation to engage here. It’s disappointing how quickly a space you admire and a group you respect can lose their value when hostility replaces constructive dialogue.

So, to answer the question: the key difference is the willingness to truly help and guide others. And sadly, that seems to have been lost here.

I was 30 day banned on a subreddit for "medical advice". I'm not so sure it's the culture and how people choose to engage. I think it might be more of just the population numbers. This forum can be somewhat "cliquey" and small world. But Reddit can just be cruel given the population numbers.

GLPF were quite vocally opposed with the (airquotes) "spreadsheet" and how bad and dangerous it is to the newcomer. With the alternative that every newbie "where should I buy" posts should snowball into several pages of nonsense with bits of information contained like "DYOR", "READ" and other. It almost feels a bit more like a sport. Let's tell the noob to DYOR! Get "street cred" with your "Fight Clubbers". And dang I just broke the first rule!

As for the cliquey-ness... it's probably largely dependent when these people decided to "join the gray side". Another forum has already popped up that is much more newcomer friendly. It's still being developed but at the risk of sounding cliquey, I've been asked not to publicly post links to it for the moment. However I can respond via DM if anyone is interested in getting their "noob" on. Or just want the straight dirt in a spreadsheet.

There is no shortage of ways to get help, and this forum isn't the only game in town. https://peptide.chat can get you into several dozen GLP1 discords. There's also Telegram.

Once I joined peptide.chat and then found invites to their native Discords, the forums have become less and less useful. Now I just come here to shit post and have a little fun.

"Everyone is a first time, a once" -Edna, Reform School Girls.

 

[Sunflower]

As one of the RepLadies mods… did not expect to see RepLadies mentioned here

Since it is apparently shut down, the only accessible ones now are RepLadiesDesigner (full of rehomes and random sellers), Wagoon, and OGRepLadies. I’ve been reading all 3 for a few months (handbag porn has replaced my binge eating, apparently). Which one did most of the seasoned RL move over to? I get very different vibes from each….

 

[DwightTheDelight]

I completely agree with this post. This forum is not welcoming to newcomers. I've participated in various forums (and moderated several) on a wide range of topics since Internet forums were established. This one has some good info, but it's, without question, the least welcoming forum I have experienced, going all the way back to the 90s. Buncha jackanapes here (along with some decent people).

That's not completely true, Master Tang.

Just last week, a newcomer came in and said, "hi, I'm from Seattle and excited to learn from all of you" so I immediately called them a shill, and the post devolved into them threatening to saw my head off. Typical newcomer friendly forum behavior if you ask me.

 

[zpped]

The difference between Reddit and this forum, in my experience, goes beyond just having humans behind the keyboards on both platforms. It’s about the culture and how people choose to engage.

If I can be completely honest, I typically prefer to observe and learn here rather than post. For a long time, this forum felt like a reliable, welcoming place where I could find information and support. However, that perception shifted when I attempted to participate and was met with hostility—not for anything inflammatory, but simply for expressing support for someone another member strongly opposes.

Right or wrong, the way I was treated speaks volumes about those who responded, especially given the way they often present themselves as open and helpful. It completely validated my initial hesitation to engage here. It’s disappointing how quickly a space you admire and a group you respect can lose their value when hostility replaces constructive dialogue.

So, to answer the question: the key difference is the willingness to truly help and guide others. And sadly, that seems to have been lost here.

To be fair, your first post wasn't a question. You stepped in to advocate for an extremely controversial vendor that is known for shilling with alternate accounts.

 

[fetefille]

I was 30 day banned on a subreddit for "medical advice". I'm not so sure it's the culture and how people choose to engage. I think it might be more of just the population numbers. This forum can be somewhat "cliquey" and small world. But Reddit can just be cruel given the population numbers.

GLPF were quite vocally opposed with the (airquotes) "spreadsheet" and how bad and dangerous it is to the newcomer. With the alternative that every newbie "where should I buy" posts should snowball into several pages of nonsense with bits of information contained like "DYOR", "READ" and other. It almost feels a bit more like a sport. Let's tell the noob to DYOR! Get "street cred" with your "Fight Clubbers". And dang I just broke the first rule!

As for the cliquey-ness... it's probably largely dependent when these people decided to "join the gray side". Another forum has already popped up that is much more newcomer friendly. It's still being developed but at the risk of sounding cliquey, I've been asked not to publicly post links to it for the moment. However I can respond via DM if anyone is interested in getting their "noob" on. Or just want the straight dirt in a spreadsheet.

There is no shortage of ways to get help, and this forum isn't the only game in town. https://peptide.chat can get you into several dozen GLP1 discords. There's also Telegram.

Once I joined peptide.chat and then found invites to their native Discords, the forums have become less and less useful. Now I just come here to shit post and have a little fun.

"Everyone is a first time, a once" -Edna, Reform School Girls.

So a new forum is asking you not to talk about fight club publicly, huh? Well don’t that beat all.

Everyone didn’t start at the same level bc of varied backgrounds, and some folks just plain catch onto things faster.

I suggested to someone that helps run the tirzhelp discord that maybe a “what to expect while expecting” guide would be a good idea bc I was watching their folks freak the fuck out about wait times, communication, etc. They told me to kick fucking rocks. I let them know I’d seen at least 4 server owners lose their shit in long posts, not just bc of the large influx of folks, but bc of the behavior. No one advised the newer members to sit back, relax, observe a server’s atmosphere, and then join in. Again, told to fuck right off.

I had been directing people obviously drowning to that server, tg, whatever, now I just scroll right on by.

 

[zpped]

directing newbies to pepchat for help is absurd. It's bedlam there, you're in the vendors house. The only thing they want to help with is how to spend your money. Its fine for keeping up with sales or talking to the vendors when you need to.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Is it really that out of line to instruct newcomers that this isn’t a joke, they need to take responsibility for their own education because it involves personal risk assessment about decisions and consequences that only effect them, potentially quite seriously? All in a landscape full of cash grabbing opportunists? It’s not a “friendly” thing to say but the reality is that they’re wandering into a lion’s den with their wallet in hand and health on the line.

It is irresponsible not to take this approach in my opinion. You can’t spoon feed them whoever your preferred vendor is and then say “but I’m not responsible if you experience bad outcomes!”

 

[SassyPants]

Hear me out...........
We could feed them to Tracy.

WWTD ~ or WWTS? Kinda brilliant.