Glacier-Grey axis and Welli

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Hey community......Has anyone had experiences with Glacier Amino/Welli or Grey Axis ?

they have been suggested to me and i want to put feelers out....
 
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Going to second mraajr. If you have to use one of them, I would go with Grey Axis. They are one of the cheapest single vial vendors I have dealt with, though I would not buy kits from them unless you don't care about the markup and don't want to deal with crypto or the handful of vendors that still accept paypal.
 
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I gotten from Grey Axis Research a few times. I wouldn't get any kits but a good spot to try out new stuff. Everything has been legit with labels and batch numbers matching those it claims to be. Although, you need to double check your order when you get it. Two orders and both have been missing something.

Some thing else to consider is that they ship from the US. So if the consequences of getting a package seized is something you want to avoid, like me, then buying from a US shipper is a priority.

Yes, there is cheaper ones out there that claim to ship from a US warehouse but stories on forums say some people have gotten them from overseas.

There are pros and cons to either route you go, it's just best to know what you're getting yourself into with each one.
 
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For as much hate as Nexa and Grey Axis get, they're fine. I wouldn't get a GLP kit from Nexa, but some of the stuff Cain has is reasonable. Grey did have a pretty decent Tirz kit the other day that I almost irrationally purchased as a backup stockpile...did get a couple Fox-o4 and a couple items that I just don't need full kits on though.
 
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I like buying singles from Grey Axis. The prices are very reasonable for the world of singles, the original supplier is always clearly identified, and there are COAs for everything. When buying singles, that’s about the best you can look for. The vials also come clearly labeled with the original supplier and the tested mass and purity, which is nice so I don’t have to label immediately or go find my downloaded test report to do a quick recon. Axis is also very helpful. My first purchase from him was on a Sunday and the Venmo option got a little stuck. We swapped over to PP and when I replied that I had paid, he noticed that the PayPal email address was slightly incorrect (a result of the search option in the PP app), so I was able to reverse that and he sent me an invoice so I could pay directly from the link. We swapped 3 or 4 emails….again, all on a Sunday and my order shipped Monday morning. So yeah, it depends on what you’re looking for and what your expectations are. If you want to try a new-to-you pep before committing to kits, grey Axis a great option IMO.
 
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IshimaruKenta said:
Grey Axis is a single vial vendor, but they've been slowly increasing their prices and have gotten way too expensive. During Black Friday, they offered kits of R60 for over $800, which every other vendor was about $360. No thanks. I won't buy from them again.
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And now those r60 kits are about 300 bucks all over the place
 
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IshimaruKenta said:
I value my money quite a bit more than anything they would offer. But hey, if you want to spend more money than you need to, go right ahead.
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I agree money is very valuable. But the consequences for getting a package seized can include losing global entry and no longer being a trusted traveler, to name a few. To my knowledge, if there is a way to buy that privilege back, it'll cost much much more than what I saved by only buying overseas.

There's no wrong answer, it just depends on what you value most. I value my freedom more than money. So, yes, I'll go on making the decisions that reflect the things I value most, even if it means spending a little bit more.

It's also worth mentioning that CBP is now implementing AI in their searches for all incoming overseas parcels. With this comes the discontinuing of the Deminimis rule, which is the rule allowing parcels less than $800 to bypass most searches and scrutiny. This means more packages will be seized without the need to be opened. So, within the next year or two, it'll be interesting how it changes the landscape.
 
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Waclive said:
I agree money is very valuable. But the consequences for getting a package seized can include losing global entry and no longer being a trusted traveler, to name a few. To my knowledge, if there is a way to buy that privilege back, it'll cost much much more than what I saved by only buying overseas.

There's no wrong answer, it just depends on what you value most. I value my freedom more than money. So, yes, I'll go on making the decisions that reflect the things I value most, even if it means spending a little bit more.

It's also worth mentioning that CBP is now implementing AI in their searches for all incoming overseas parcels. With this comes the discontinuing of the Deminimis rule, which is the rule allowing parcels less than $800 to bypass most searches and scrutiny. This means more packages will be seized without the need to be opened. So, within the next year or two, it'll be interesting how it changes the landscape.
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Well thats depressing. Means companies like Lilly might have us over a barrel. Looks like i better expand on my already considerable stash... more hydrapeaks here i come...
 
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Waclive said:
Buying from them is definitely a viable option if you value things more than just saving the most money.
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This. $800 is too much imo for a $300 kit of R60, but 450, 500, I might do that. I have also recently bought a kit of 5/5 cagrisema from a single vial seller for 200. Did I technically over pay for this? Yes, however, I know the original price from the Chinese vendor was 115 for a single kit, the vendor was out, and the kit was already here in the US. The extra cost was worth not having to worry about it getting seized and knowing that someone else had already tested.
 
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That's what works for you right now, I can appreciate this a lot.

Hopefully you won't always be in this position that traveling is not on the list of things you are able to do.

Believe it or not, other than GLPs, some of the resellers do kits for the same price or less than some overseas vendors. I've been able to find kits of Mots-C, NAD+, glutathione, KLOW, and a few more at the same price or less. It just takes a little research, but that's what this world is, research. We're all here to learn.
 
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Gr33dyOctopus said:
Well, for me, money is absolutely an issue. If i had enough money to travel out of the country for whatever reason sure id pay the upcharges and travel. But really in my position I can do niether. So just have to do my best with what resources i have available.

Cause buying a bottle for 200 instead of waiting for a kit at 115 is so far out of my reality that it might as well not exist. Good for you that you can do that, thats really nice for you.
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Just to clarify here, I bought a kit for 200, not a single vial/bottle.
 
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