GLP-1s 'cheating' OR a TOOL

[soverign_physacist]

GLP1s arent "cheating" they are a tool like a cast for a broken bone, or an SSRI for anxiety. They are instrumentally rational: Weight loss is one of the most profound health interventions, we should aggressivley encourage it.

Here's the cynics take: They are outsourcing willpower. Even if true we should still use GLP1s. Modern neuroscience: willpower = finite. PFC glucose and neural excitation limits set a cap per day. Let's save it for our career, family and not spend it battling snacks.

The deeper truth is clinicals show brain rewiring not some transient fullness. GLP1s hit VTA and decrease dopamine bursts for rewards, this extends beyond food to alcohol, nicotine, other drugs. Early studies show this change persists at least months after GLP1s stopped showing long term plasticity not simple suppression.

Finally, the step trials show very promising weight loss retention (>50% at 24 months). This doesn't fit for a short term cheat.

Losing weight is one of the best ways to avoid chronic disease. If you had a pill to protect your vision everyone would take it, so why not this?

 

[Anon7482]

I’m cynical AF so my take may seem insensitive… I say it’s cheating if it’s all you do. If you just take GLPs and don’t do anything but starve yourself to lose weight, you will gain every pound back and probably more. The only person you are cheating is yourself though.

Yeah, that's why I just eat whatever I want and up the dose instead lol

But really, I disagree. I've been at or around my current weight for the past five years, I can maintain weight but I just can't put down the fork long enough to lose it for good. I seriously doubt I'll jump back up and gain more than my current weight with zero lifestyle changes, but even then you can just run another cycle. "Cheating yourself" come on lmao

 

[AndyPanda]

Now that's just ridiculous. Of course PEDs should be "demonized" in sports, that literally IS cheating. The whole point of a competition is that everybody plays fair, am I gonna get a handicap because I'm playing against somebody taking a gram of test? No, right? Then keep it out of regular sports, and make a different league for PED users.

You can take GLPs, sit on your ass and lose weight. You can take all the PEDs you want and if you don’t put in work, you won’t see gains. Additionally, GLPs are on WADAs monitoring list so they are just as bad if people want to truly be righteous. Athletes in combat sports could be using GLPs to cut weight which puts people in positions of advantage if they are cutting to fight at a lower weight.

 

[frankpeptid]

Cheating ?

Who am I competing against?