Hello fellow Pepheads/Peptidos who followed the rabbit down it´s hole, like myself.
I myself have an extensive background in microbiology, clinical chemistry, haematology, hygene and endocrinology.
Asked my GP/PCP/Endo more than a year ago for a presciption for Semaglutide or Tirzepatide but was denied because there was not enough evidence published for T1D. So I started calorie counting again, read some of James Smith books, lost 23lbs, gained some 30lbs back. IMHO dieting is full time job and of course science has a lot to say about that.
I finally took matters into my own hands. Subscribed to a program which is called like the new Tesla model or the main ingredient for gin. Did their survey, payed a few hundred (insert currency) and got an 0,25 Ozempic pen delivered.
First and second week were awsome. Is that the feeling normal weighed people have? No cravings 24/7? Appetite yes, but I was never able to stock up on chocolates and crisps. I never ever left my first plate unfinnished and was satisfied. My second or third protion maybe.
Researching the topic even more, I decided to switch to Mounjaro 12,5 (15mg out of stock) and split/titrate the doses. The same amount of (insert currency) would give me 10-14 weeks of treatment instead of 4-6 weeks and even pay a bit less.
Then I tried to save a bit more. Got a cheaper prescription and a 15mg MJ pen. Menwhile dosing 2.5mg every third day ("5.8mg/week" or 4.83-7.32 serum level). Only sideffects were sulfur burbs, gas, less frequent bowel movments and acid reflux. Those coud be treated with an prunes, PPI, chewing gum and frequent cross ventilations.🤣 Down 26lbs in 3 months. I don´t want to go faster because my mothers family side has a history with gallstones (4F or 5F)!
So what brought me here? Listening and watching youtube videos talking about compounding pharmacys in the states. We don´t have that in the europe, except for very scarce/lifesaving drugs or special blends for patiens. A weight loss medication/antidiabetic would probably never get an exemption from the patent. I knew before wholesale drugs were produced in india or china, imported and refined/pressed with additives into their final form and then shipped to the pharmacy. So how could compounding pharmacys get their hands on the "scarce" GLP-1s and GIPs if not directly form the source?!? I believe the only thing that makes GLP-1s so damn expensive is the patent and the application method e.g. Autoinjektor or Kwikpen. (Similar to the Epi-Pen in the states. Epinephrine is cheap.)
Through reddit I found r/tirzepatidehelp and glp1forum. Here @chmuse ´s post "Someone told you to "go grey" and now you're here." I found the rest of the whole shebangabang! At the moment I am following the communities reading and waiting for a good promo to load up and probably take part in group testing!
Hope to hear from y´all!
TLDR: Hello from Europe I am here to stay!
I myself have an extensive background in microbiology, clinical chemistry, haematology, hygene and endocrinology.
Asked my GP/PCP/Endo more than a year ago for a presciption for Semaglutide or Tirzepatide but was denied because there was not enough evidence published for T1D. So I started calorie counting again, read some of James Smith books, lost 23lbs, gained some 30lbs back. IMHO dieting is full time job and of course science has a lot to say about that.
I finally took matters into my own hands. Subscribed to a program which is called like the new Tesla model or the main ingredient for gin. Did their survey, payed a few hundred (insert currency) and got an 0,25 Ozempic pen delivered.
First and second week were awsome. Is that the feeling normal weighed people have? No cravings 24/7? Appetite yes, but I was never able to stock up on chocolates and crisps. I never ever left my first plate unfinnished and was satisfied. My second or third protion maybe.
Researching the topic even more, I decided to switch to Mounjaro 12,5 (15mg out of stock) and split/titrate the doses. The same amount of (insert currency) would give me 10-14 weeks of treatment instead of 4-6 weeks and even pay a bit less.
Then I tried to save a bit more. Got a cheaper prescription and a 15mg MJ pen. Menwhile dosing 2.5mg every third day ("5.8mg/week" or 4.83-7.32 serum level). Only sideffects were sulfur burbs, gas, less frequent bowel movments and acid reflux. Those coud be treated with an prunes, PPI, chewing gum and frequent cross ventilations.🤣 Down 26lbs in 3 months. I don´t want to go faster because my mothers family side has a history with gallstones (4F or 5F)!
So what brought me here? Listening and watching youtube videos talking about compounding pharmacys in the states. We don´t have that in the europe, except for very scarce/lifesaving drugs or special blends for patiens. A weight loss medication/antidiabetic would probably never get an exemption from the patent. I knew before wholesale drugs were produced in india or china, imported and refined/pressed with additives into their final form and then shipped to the pharmacy. So how could compounding pharmacys get their hands on the "scarce" GLP-1s and GIPs if not directly form the source?!? I believe the only thing that makes GLP-1s so damn expensive is the patent and the application method e.g. Autoinjektor or Kwikpen. (Similar to the Epi-Pen in the states. Epinephrine is cheap.)
Through reddit I found r/tirzepatidehelp and glp1forum. Here @chmuse ´s post "Someone told you to "go grey" and now you're here." I found the rest of the whole shebangabang! At the moment I am following the communities reading and waiting for a good promo to load up and probably take part in group testing!
Hope to hear from y´all!
TLDR: Hello from Europe I am here to stay!
