Grey (Chinese) Market Getting Noticed by Lawmakers

[tubby]

Seems more like a crackdown on compounded pharmacies using Chinese vendors rather than people buying on telegram with Bitcoin

I mean those are obviously the more immediate targets, but to the extent that significant market share is being lost via Tiktok influencers driving customers to telegram, that's obviously going to be a target too. It's unlikely that the will exists for them to eliminate 100% of the flow, but big pharma is obviously going to escalate in whatever ways they deem necessary to go after all the the low hanging fruit.

 

[Goonwise]

A lot of people here are pointing to the war on drugs being a "failure" and throwing that out as an example. That is a naive position to take. The war on drugs was hardly a failure. It was very much a success for private prison companies, drug treatment centers, and anybody else who stands to financially benefit from an ongoing "war" of that sort that justifies obscene government spending in favor of some vague aspirational cause. When the government declares a war on something that typically means you're going to get more of it because the people getting paid by the government to fight that war want to keep their livelihoods going. We could only dream that the government would declare a war on peptides.

Instead what is going to happen is they're going to clamp down on "counterfeit" and "dangerous" drugs entering our country illegally. Now this is no easy task to stamp out using current laws, but there's certainly the financial incentive to pass new laws and this has been done before. Back when music and movies was going digital the entertainment industry pushed the DMCA, which criminalized some pretty crazy things that we're still dealing with today. When that didn't prove to be enough the RIAA fought in some pretty clever ways (to the point where they were mass filing lawsuits against random people on the internet) to shut down music sharing online. They only backed down when they found a balance where ~80% of people went back to paying for their music and going after the rest just wasn't necessary anymore.

Those lawyers were pretty cutthroat, but they've got nothing on big pharma. Pharma has a history of knowingly killing and maiming people by suppressing or manipulating data (e.g. see Vioxx, contaminated Factor VIII, Oxy, or just google "largest criminal fine in US history"). I've got some ideas for how this could play out, but I'm not going to share them publicly because for those not as familiar with this history they'd probably sound insane.

Now I am more interested in what you have to say. Throw some insane stuff at your northern neighbor.

 

[AYarter]

I mean those are obviously the more immediate targets, but to the extent that significant market share is being lost via Tiktok influencers driving customers to telegram, that's obviously going to be a target too. It's unlikely that the will exists for them to eliminate 100% of the flow, but big pharma is obviously going to escalate in whatever ways they deem necessary to go after all the the low hanging fruit

Sure, and that needs to stop. However, this letter is in line with the hims lawsuit -- that compounders are using unapproved apis...

The rest is speculation. Will they go there? Sure. But cbp has as much as said that they aren't interested in protecting patents.

 

[SpiralJetty]

Probably nothing to worry about, it seems like the usual politician BS to drum up donations for themselves.

 

[Rolltide61]

BREAKING: Sen. Tom Cotton is demanding the FDA investigate whether illegal Chinese drug ingredients are entering the U.S. through compounded weight-loss meds, warning of serious public health and national security risks.

WTF? I came on here to learn. Now I find out I've been cavorting w/ spies, terrorists and commies.

That's just great....

 

[tncc_rn]

I hope RFK Jr is lurking in here and reads this

Doubt it, because SRY/LSPL/SSA/HYB oils and HGH are still unavailable, along with cheap boner pills🤬

All items RFK Jr is into. If he could bring SRY and SSA back from CCP hell he would.

 

[Peptidesearch]

BREAKING: Sen. Tom Cotton is demanding the FDA investigate whether illegal Chinese drug ingredients are entering the U.S. through compounded weight-loss meds, warning of serious public health and national security risks.

WTF? I came on here to learn. Now I find out I've been cavorting w/ spies, terrorists and commies.

That's just great....

I prefer the term peptide pirates.

 

[Wallydog]

Sen. Tom Cotton
Someone's got or is gonna get a nice campaign donation from BP...

"A recent analysis from the Food and Drug Administration and U.S. Customs and Border Patrol shows that between September 2023 and January 2025, 195 illegal shipments of APIs, likely used in compounded weight loss medications, entered the U.S. market."

Half of those went to a coffee shop in Texas 🤣

"It is estimated that as of January 2026, up to 1.5 million American patients could be using unregulated compounded weight loss medications that may contain potentially dangerous ingredients from Chinese manufacturers."

Nearly all are changing their health outcomes for the better and are thriving🙂

Remind Tom that he voted to take away health care subsidies that may have helped the people using the gray market now.

 

[Wallydog]

I prefer the term peptide pirates.

Arrgh! Pirates come in all shapes.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuGGNsE3_8Y

 

[Peptidesearch]

Arrgh!

 

[Nabster]

I mean those are obviously the more immediate targets, but to the extent that significant market share is being lost via Tiktok influencers driving customers to telegram, that's obviously going to be a target too. It's unlikely that the will exists for them to eliminate 100% of the flow, but big pharma is obviously going to escalate in whatever ways they deem necessary to go after all the the low hanging fruit.

How many ppl do you think are actually getting straight from grey market? I assume its a small fraction compared to the compounding pharmacies

 

[tubby]

How many ppl do you think are actually getting straight from grey market? I assume its a small fraction compared to the compounding pharmacies

I'd agree with that.

And I'm finding it fun that your name is Nabster. I brought up the entertainment industry shutting down music sharing services in the early 2000s as an analogy earlier. The best known file sharing service at the time was a company named Napster.

 

[AYarter]

How many ppl do you think are actually getting straight from grey market? I assume its a small fraction compared to the compounding pharmacies

Exactly. It would cost more than it's worth...

 

[HereKittyKitty]

All I will say is they can't get their arms around grey market tires which are impossible to camouflage. I am not worried about what they are going to do about white powder that literally could be anything. My first vendor ships it all as dried herbal ingredients. LOL

 

[CNCCurrency]

All I will say is they can't get their arms around grey market tires which are impossible to camouflage. I am not worried about what they are going to do about white powder that literally could be anything. My first vendor ships it all as dried herbal ingredients. LOL

Mine have come in facial boxes

 

[Superduty67]

Facial masks have been helping me tremendously!

 

[waxworx76]

Thankfully we're not doing something crazy like going to war with Iran, so our politicians can focus on the real problems, like Big Pharma not collecting all of their pennies.

 

[HereInTX]

Come and get them. (from my freezer)

 

[tubby]

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Take your like. You earned it!

 

[jandingus]

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gonna put this on the display of my samsung smart fridge full only of peptides (I wish)

 

[randompersonrandom]

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this is so good. I want to print this out and hang it on my chest freezer. I won't, but in my heart I'm doing it.

 

[CNCCurrency]

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

The 195 shipments over 17 months is almost comical. I was thinking 195 shipments per day. And where is the other 40% of API coming from? I thought CN was supplying 90% or more of this stuff.

This Is where my head went: how many in how long?? What a distraction, constituents need better.

BREAKING: Sen. Tom Cotton is demanding the FDA investigate whether illegal Chinese drug ingredients are entering the U.S. through compounded weight-loss meds, warning of serious public health and national security risks.

WTF? I came on here to learn. Now I find out I've been cavorting w/ spies, terrorists and commies.

That's just great....

Frack, this is where federal agencies could start getting pulled in. Figure out what is desired, create a story, do what they want. Sigh.

I still have <$1000 of product in my possession (maybe even <500), which is a slap on the wrist in my state. Not sure where they’re going to try to head with this but I can’t imagine the peons have a ton to worry about. (That’s us). My guess is they’ll go after the hydra that is distributors but the cash is good so there will be others.

Peptide pirates had a nice ring to it.

 

[Foggy-Hollow]

All I will say is they can't get their arms around grey market tires which are impossible to camouflage. I am not worried about what they are going to do about white powder that literally could be anything. My first vendor ships it all as dried herbal ingredients. LOL

NEW BUNNY TRAIL!!