Group buy question and observation (or maybe a question of an observation)

RetCurious said:
Lol! Too late for that.🤣
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Crap, I had missed that little gem from the 8 armed guy. Oh, he's right, I love all the new rogue scholars joining with their solid advise they got reading a Dr Suess book. You're fine, and you know that. You've been around, along with a bunch of others I like and trust. It's the ones that joining a week ago to buy shit, and they saw me mention GB and stuff. I'm not doing that much anymore. 4 newbs in like 2 hours messaged me somehow and wanted GB links a month
or so ago. I told them, it's private.
 
Chili777 said:
Most early symptoms like this go away after a month or so and you reach therapeutic serum levels,at least for most people. There is always an adjustment period where you are getting used to any GLP.
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HouseCat said:
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I'm fucking dying here. It's even all Reta. What's scary, this is close. I'm saving this shit. This post gets this.
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bright said:
Just out of curiosity. How much cheaper do they offer the stuff in group buys compared to normal prices?
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Im gonna say up to 50% if its a 250, 300 kit order. 25% or less for smaller buys 100 and under. I ordered R60 for 165, with shipping, mandatory donation, processing fees about 195. Took took over 250 orders to get that price. Anyone on that buy will have access to mass/purity and endo tests. I noticed some only do m/p test.
 
Rdg1970 said:
Im in on 2, discounts are based on order volume. GB1 was 10% discount, GB2 was 15%. The real savings in on the testing. Im getting +$4K of testing for $120.
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Yeah, for me it’s the testing that’s the big selling point. My first ever dip into gray, I got 1 kit of tirz, and then sent 3 vials off 😢 to Jano and spent about $600 for M/S, endo and heavy metals (HM I wouldn’t do again as Jano says it’s kind of a non-issue). I am happy to know my peps are safe, but DAMN, it was a lot of product and money to find that out.
 
woundcarping said:
GB Vendor could want to protect their sources as proprietary. Also when they let people know the vendor people invariably harass that vendor directly about details regarding the buy... I could see that continuing after the delivery.

I'm a dealer for some products and I deal directly with the mfg but some other dealers go through distributors. The distributors are generally never known about, thus they don't have to deal with any retail communications which can save a lot of hassle. The mfg usually says talk to your dealer, the dealer handles the problem. In this example the GB Vendor is the dealer, the distributor is the vendor, and the mfg is rarely known.
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Does the manufacturer actually put the powder in vials? In the US, if you look at a manufacturer of chemical compounds, eg, Tadalafil and trazadone, they sell basically buckets volume or at best like a mega jar, definitely do not compound it. So I was assuming the manufacturer in China of peptides are the same. And at best, you can buy from the middle men that put into vials. But perhaps my assumptions are wrong.
 
Gt3294a said:
Does the manufacturer actually put the powder in vials? In the US, if you look at a manufacturer of chemical compounds, eg, Tadalafil and trazadone, they sell basically buckets volume or at best like a mega jar, definitely do not compound it. So I was assuming the manufacturer in China of peptides are the same. And at best, you can buy from the middle men that put into vials. But perhaps my assumptions are wrong.
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My understanding is you have the manufacture that produces the API, then you have the people that take that and get it ready in vials… sometimes they sell it, or sometimes there a vendor.
 
Terminix8 said:
Perhaps I'm in the wrong places for these things. Haven't really picked up on any GB type groups. I'm open to the prospect but not actively looking for them. Any general recommendations on avoiding scammy people in the GB space?I
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I found one through vender reviews section then followed them on telegram.
 
If the Group Promotion Vendor doesn't have any follow up information about testing that's a bit suspicious esp. if it was promised.

It's possible the Group Promotion Vendor is quiet for now bc there's no updates? W/these GBs usually the manufacturer will schedule a production run for the GB (with custom cap color/vial sizes if requested) and there's a queue so there can be a decent wait time just for production to start.

But yeah it's normal GBs don't disclose the vendor/source bc ppl harass the manufacturer for updates which can damage the relationship between the manufacturer and Group Promotion Vendor for future business.
 
ZippityDooDah said:
I appreciate that people are always looking for the lowest prices and best products, but the term "group buy" does not apply to 99% of these "deals" and it unfortunately frequently results in people (especially "newbies") getting the exact opposite of what they hoped for.

I'll go into this deeper at some point when it's not a holiday and eleventy billion degrees outside, but for now I'll offer this little tidbit:

Here's a simple criteria for determining if a "group buy" is really a group buy: Is the "orɡanizer" publicly providing detailed accounting for every single penny paid and spent, and disclosing their compensation (be it money or product)? If the answer is no, then it's not a group buy and simply a vendor offering a group promotion at better than usual prices, perhaps with the addition of third-party testing. If they're not sharing the details of the money in/out, then they're in it for profit as a business—not your friend, buddy, or "plug"—and calling themselves a "group buy orɡanizer" is a blatant lie. Never send money to liars.
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It seems like a bit of a semantic argument. Maybe we need a new term for it. It seems what you usually have is a middleman between the vendor/manufacturer (or often multiple) who are facilitating a large buy with a group of people and making a profit doing so while dealing with the logistics and testing. So not a group by by your definition but what people are commonly referring to as a group buy.

Maybe we need to call it is something like "Coordinated Buy" instead of Group Buy. It seems like there are some good ones out there but they need to be vetted the same way you would vet a vendor. There are definite upsides, price, local shipping, testing, but also definite risks.
 
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5byfive said:
It seems like a bit of a semantic argument. Maybe we need a new term for it. It seems what you usually have is a middleman between the vendor/manufacturer (or often multiple) who are facilitating a large buy with a group of people and making a profit doing so while dealing with the logistics and testing. So not a group by by your definition but what people are commonly referring to as a group buy.

Maybe we need to call it is something like "Coordinated Buy" instead of Group Buy. It seems like there are some good ones out there but they need to be vetted the same way you would vet a vendor. There are definite upsides, price, local shipping, testing, but also definite risks.
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I've been involved in several dozen group buys for a variety of products (mostly car and tech-related) over the past ~30 years, and the one core component to all of legitimate group buys outside of the peptide space is transparency.

While your point about semantics is entirely valid, my main concern is and has always been that the customer be fully aware and informed as to what exactly they're getting into, and that the people running these offers are honest about what they're doing. Unfortunately, the transparency and honesty aspects of most of these "orɡanizers" are severely lacking, and I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many of them have turned out to be liars and thieves (and often shitty humans who do things like ban people who ask a question that offends them, or in several cases end up doxxing customers either out of negligence or spite).

Because many of these offers do have exceptional pricing, the tendency for customers to spend a lot more money "stocking up" is high, especially for folks new to all of this. That leads to them taking a much larger financial risk than if they were buying a couple of kits from any of the Chinese vendors. Losing one or two hundred bucks on a bad deal with a Chinese vendor is bad enough, now put someone in the position of spending several hundred or even thousands of dollars in pursuit of a "great deal", and if things go sideways it can be a serious financial blow.

In almost 4 years of being in the GLP-1 and peptide space, I've seen countless vendors come and go, and while it's called the "grey market" for good reasons, it unfortunately attracts far more dishonest vendors than honest ones. The so-called "group buy" version of vendors became a hot path to start selling peptides when many realized they could get bargain-hunting buyers to directly fund their startup expenses rather than actually investing any of their own money.

Ultimately, I hate to see people get ripped off, and want everyone to understand that they need to carefully consider who they trust with their money. There are more scammers out there than good guys, and that might be the most important thing for people to learn as they venture into this world.
 
Airborne Daddy said:
Im gonna say up to 50% if its a 250, 300 kit order. 25% or less for smaller buys 100 and under. I ordered R60 for 165, with shipping, mandatory donation, processing fees about 195. Took took over 250 orders to get that price. Anyone on that buy will have access to mass/purity and endo tests. I noticed some only do m/p test.
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I'm in that same one, and ordered 2 kits. No vendor disclosed on that one. I heard it's close to shipping to us. I have another with 4-R60/kits that, no vendor. She also did Lobster R30 that I'm waiting on 4 kits.
 
Always worries me about the no vendor disclosure. Many Group Promotion Vendor say that the vendor would honor the purity, endotoxins and under filled promises but as you know many back out at the end(XTP, Bella, Alice, LN etc)
For me Lobster so far delivered consistently quality peps and HG8 but you have to deal with his drama.
Also, let’s don’t forget the chance of the Group Promotion Vendor run away with the crypto that everyone send.
Past months couple incidents happened(FTF and Thursday GB).
 
BNLFL said:
I'm in that same one, and ordered 2 kits. No vendor disclosed on that one. I heard it's close to shipping to us. I have another with 4-R60/kits that, no vendor. She also did Lobster R30 that I'm waiting on 4 kits.
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Im breaking after i score a few kits of t40 or 30....
 
petros600 said:
Always worries me about the no vendor disclosure. Many Group Promotion Vendor say that the vendor would honor the purity, endotoxins and under filled promises but as you know many back out at the end(XTP, Bella, Alice, LN etc)
For me Lobster so far delivered consistently quality peps and HG8 but you have to deal with his drama.
Also, let’s don’t forget the chance of the Group Promotion Vendor run away with the crypto that everyone send.
Past months couple incidents happened(FTF and Thursday GB).
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I gotta look this up now....thanks.
 
HoopFan said:
Been watching a group buy discord for a bit. Is it normal for the Group Promotion vendor to not disclose the vendor for the buy, even after it’s closed? This one didn’t even include batch numbers or anything related to tracking the product for other third party tests for comparison.

Just not used to the secrecy. Also there are some vendors I would not want to trust buying from at the moment.
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On the original point about secrecy or lack of transparency, every company has secrets. Public companies have plenty of skeletons in the closet, and private companies are usually worse.

Not knowing exactly where a G.B.O. sources its products doesn’t bother me much if the third-party testing is solid. Most people don’t know where Coca Cola sources its sugar; they just care whether the final product is safe and tastes good.

GBs will never be fully transparent, so I treat them like speculative purchasing. I buy small amounts from multiple buys and only spend what I’m fine losing.
 
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