Have you found any method or supplement that has improved your sleep?

[Vash]

Growth has drastically improved my sleep. Huge difference.

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

I just ordered this Magnesium Glycinate.

Same haha

 

[Powerslide]

Epithalon at 1mg daily for a month, then used as needed (usually once or twice a week) worked amazing for the 2 rats in our house. One rat has had sleep problems since their 20's. They now sleep through the night. I found that after the initial "onboarding" of a 30 day cycle and a 2 week break, the rat would get sleepy during the day if epi was given once a day. Switching to once or twice a week solved that problem.

Nasal spray or pinning?

 

[CandyCap]

Nasal spray or pinning?

Pinning right before bed.

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Nasal spray or pinning?

I was thinking I would try my first nasal spray with this one but then learned all the research on it was done by pinning

 

[Powerslide]

I was thinking I would try my first nasal spray with this one but then learned all the research on it was done by pinning

peptide critic had a good video for epi/dsip if you want to go that route. I have ordered dsip but they were out of epi so waiting to order it

 

[tcpnomad]

Epithalon at 1mg daily for a month, then used as needed

May I ask - where did you pick up this protocol from? From all I have read, the recommended protocol is 0.2-0.5mg (or older 5-10mg) 10-20 days on, 4-6 months off. I would appreciate your thoughts.

 

[CandyCap]

May I ask - where did you pick up this protocol from? From all I have read, the recommended protocol is 0.2-0.5mg (or older 5-10mg) 10 days on, 4 months off. I would appreciate your thoughts.

We tried the lower dose to on-board. We did not see results. We read that others do a higher dose with better outcomes. So we started gradually going up...2mg was too much and we settled on 1mg.

 

[tcpnomad]

We tried the lower dose to on-board. We did not see results. We read that others do a higher dose with better outcomes. So we started gradually going up...2mg was too much and we settled on 1mg.

What was your experience at 2mg?

 

[CandyCap]

What was your experience at 2mg?

We both felt groggy and not as alert during waking hours. Wanting to nap all the time.
Everyone is different. YMMV

 

[Creasey77]

Can I ask where you got your epithalon from and was it tested? I want some but can't find anyone who tests it

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Can I ask where you got your epithalon from and was it tested? I want some but can't find anyone who tests it

Coming from Andy Pep Studio, their most recent test is from last year.

 

[toologic]

I take both mag threonate and glycinate. DSIP has worked wonders for me.

 

[AllCourtTENNIS]

Many of us are on a sleep improvement journey and I thought we should have a dedicated sleep thread to share what we have tried and what works.

Throughout my life I’ve found most things that help me sleep tend to make me sleep hard but shorter. This includes most intense exercise and even CJC1295.

Getting into bed at a set evening time like 9pm has really helped.

Got epithalon on the way. Thinking about starting magnesium supplements.

But what have you tried and what has worked for you?

I've struggled with insomnia for about 3 years. I take magnesium glycinate and half a trazadone at bedtime, but something magical happened when I found my reta dose. I had been on tirz for a while and titrated up slowly. Right around 8mg I started sleeping so deeply again. omg it made me feel like a new person.

 

[BNLFL]

Same haha

Should be here today.

 

[ParfumeT1]

The main components of my sleep stack are:

Magnesium Glycinate​

Glycine​

If I need some extra, deep, or fast recovery, I'll add:

Ashwagandha​

Apigenin​

 

[Clavicular's Hammer]

Last couple nights I have slept from like 9-10pm to 3-4am. Think this might be from BPC in the evening as that is what others have experienced. Also on Reta which I find requires a snack to make it through the night.

First night I was hooped, stayed up.

After all of you brought up magnesium I thought I’d try a Hand full of pumpkin seeds and slice of bread with peanut butter and sure enough I fell asleep hard and finished out the night.