Help on a list of 0 peptides, dates, and vendors?

[clayd]

I was reading on peppys and went through the 0 peptide conclusions thread but i haven't followed it from the beginning so I just wonder if any kind soul would be willing to post here:
* which vendors were affected
* for which peptides
* over which dates
* and who we suspect is a reseller vs manufacturer

 

[beefsteak]

Maybe someone can export the discord chat and feed it through chatgpt. Not on desktop rn so I can't do it.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I was reading on peppys and went through the 0 peptide conclusions thread but i haven't followed it from the beginning so I just wonder if any kind soul would be willing to post here:
* which vendors were affected
* for which peptides
* over which dates
* and who we suspect is a reseller vs manufacturer

I think we will see this list increase in the coming weeks as more people get their peps tested and coming months as more start pulling them out of the freezer and pinning.

I think the consensus opinion was their are 4-5 raw producers and dozens of finishers. I think the number of finishers may have been completely overestimated with most sellers getting their products from a relatively small number of finishers. I am not sure that we will ever really know as there is no transparency and everyone represents themselves as A-Z manufacturers. These are just my opinions based on a bunch of reading on The Swiss (props to Krysia) and other pep related sites over the past few weeks.

 

[clayd]

I think we will see this list increase in the coming weeks as more people get their peps tested and coming months as more start pulling them out of the freezer and pinning.

I think the consensus opinion was their are 4-5 raw producers and dozens of finishers. I think the number of finishers may have been completely overestimated with most sellers getting their products from a relatively small number of finishers. I am not sure that we will ever really know as there is no transparency and everyone represents themselves as A-Z manufacturers. These are just my opinions based on a bunch of reading on The Swiss (props to Krysia) and other pep related sites over the past few weeks.

when do we think it started? are my t30s from early october ok?

 

[YoYoFat]

Krysia's investigation "case of the 0 peptide" discussion has it all.

 

[scarywood75]

We don't fully know the extent to all this unfortunately. Many GB were affected, starting from November.

Not a lot of finishers out there and even that they don't finish all their products. Amo is most likely one, since Jano said multiple times their stuff is different than every other vendors.

For me Uther may also be a finisher, just personal speculation, no proof.

 

[GimmeABreak]

We don't fully know the extent to all this unfortunately. Many GB were affected, starting from November.

Not a lot of finishers out there and even that they don't finish all their products. Amo is most likely one, since Jano said multiple times their stuff is different than every other vendors.

For me Uther may also be a finisher, just personal speculation, no proof.

I suspect Ronson and SRY are also both finishers. Given SRY's expertise in biochem they could possibly be a raw producer too. I have also seen them occasionally use vial caps with SRY in raised lettering on them.

 

[chmuse]

I suspect Ronson and SRY are also both finishers. Given SRY's expertise in biochem they could possibly be a raw producer too. I have also seen them occasionally use vial caps with SRY in raised lettering on them.

I'm pretty sure I saw other 'vendors' have sent out bottles with those caps too, funnily enough (maybe it was group buys?) If so that lends credence to them being finishers as well. I'm surprised finishers would bother with selling to individuals over in bulk to the xyzabc gang.

 

[scarywood75]

I suspect Ronson and SRY are also both finishers. Given SRY's expertise in biochem they could possibly be a raw producer too. I have also seen them occasionally use vial caps with SRY in raised lettering on them.

Most likely they do, but given their huge catalog they don't do everything, as with any other vendors really.

QSC probably do some as well.

At the end for me the most important is the commitment they have for their products, but I would like more transparency and less trust between them.

 

[scarywood75]

I don't mind them buying finished products, but they need to let us know, proper test them and offer them at a competitive price