How do people try a new compound without buying a kit?

[BBA1969]

Honestly one vial from a single vial online seller is about the same price as a kit from Chn.

My thoughts exactly. Certainly if it's GLPs, just order a kit. Maybe 2, just to be safe. Then ad some NAD+, KLOW and epitalon.

And just like that, shipping was offered for free ✈️

 

[Schism]

There are several single vial resellers linked within the grey telegram communities that resell singles from kits for a small markup, at least compared to the single vial resellers with fancy sites. Around 12 to 18 bucks per vial + 8 shipping.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

Honestly one vial from a single vial online seller is about the same price as a kit from Chn.

But the single vial is very likely 3p tested and the CN kit....maybe. Lack of batch codes from the majority of suppliers is problematic to know if a provided CoA is for the product they're selling.

 

[HereKittyKitty]

I'm a nearly 50 year old perimenopausal woman who finds all this faffing about (research) hard work! I've been pinning reta for a few weeks from a neighbour's supply, but she bought a pre-mix pen and i would prefer to do my own. I'd really just love a helpful buddy that can answer this old lady's questions. Would a telegram group like you mentioned be the place?

It very well could, yes. Stairway to Grey is a great resource for those new to grey. Will DM you.

 

[cloratheshadow]

Single vial resellers. There are tons out there. Gray Asіx is a great place to start.

 

[mybodyisasewer]

Kits are cheap. Full send always. Single vials are for people who are screwing around.

 

[Selenium]

I bought a selection from what you call random single vial websites, then got kits of what I liked. Part of that was at the time starting out I didn't want to have to figure out the whole ordering from china and crypto etc... Now i'm most likely to get a full kit even if I haven't tried it just because the price for single vial is egregious.

These single vial sites often have questionable COAs anyway, like ones on their own headed paper and signed by themselves. wtf.

 

[ladyj779]

I started a couple things with single vials to try out, but now a couple months later when I want to try something, and it happens to coincide with that thing showing up in a US warehouse, I'm buying a kit 🤷

But I still look and single vial sellers...just in case 😂

 

[BigDog8084]

I post in a UK based telegram BST saying I'm looking for X Y Z and someone is usually willing to part with a vial.

That seem likes a reasonable way to get a single vial i you were in the market. I would just hope you are getting what you are paying for. But, we all take risks.

 

[wildweasel]

Honestly one vial from a single vial online seller is about the same price as a kit from Chn.

I dont see this at all. I see the vials from most online vendors being about 1/5-1/2 the price of a kit from chinese sources, which dont get me wrong, its a rip off, but when you add in shipping costs and the fact that you just want to trial something, it makes a lot more sense to just buy a single vial somewhere.

 

[Mand61]

This is with a UK perspective, I've no idea how it works in the US etc. I've been doing this over the last couple months, when I've wanted to try something, I've been forced to take an absolute leap of faith and try 'random' UK peptide single vial seller websites. I've identified them either by a) A website I used years ago for SARMS sells them, and has COA's but they're expensive and don't have everything b) someone pretty knowledgeable on here making a passing comment about one but not explicitly saying who they are/website, I've put 2+2 together and tracked the odd one down. Or c) trawled UK based reddits, and seen what gym bros or broccolli heads are suggesting to each other. This is playing with fire and I don't like it, but I don't have much choice.

I've wanted to trial allsorts over the last couple of months, I've had Reta, Tirz, Mots, CJC+Ipa, and now have Tesa, Semax, Selank and Klow ready, but I've had to trial this stuff from single vial sellers, half of it without a COA (I know I'm being an idiot here and gambling), but I don't want to buy a kit form China, wait a month for it to turn up, find it out I don't get on with it, or it has zero effect, and then I'm lumbered with 9.x vials of it.

How do you guys do it? Do you trial single vials, or does everyone take the approach of buying kits only even for a test?

I've been looking at a few threads on here re group buys, but I don't think that's a go-er, and wouldn't know where to start, and it sounds like the process could be even longer.

It kinda feels like my current approach is to buy 1x vial of something I want to try from one of the UK online single vial sellers for a fortune, for pretty much the cost of a kit from China (it seems like across the board here they are 10x'ing their money by charging for a single vial what a kit costs, seems they price fix near enough across every site I can find), if I like it, then I have to add it to a mental shopping cart for when I do another bulk purchase from China as it doesn't make sense to pay $50 shipping for example for a $90 kit.

Join a uk group then you can ask to try a vial.

 

[bbbilly]

find some of the bigger group buy telegrams and the organizers normally buy a few kits of everything they sell, and the groups will generally have some extra testing for the smart buyers to join and boom. they have some tested kits and will normally sell singles for like 2-4x the single vial prices in the kits. so like $20-30mg tirz and $25-30mg reta. thats what ive been doing when i just want a taste of something new or need a top up waiting on a shipment

 

[TazaTaza]

I don't see the point of a single vial bc IMO many popular protocols require more than 1 vial to tell difference between results vs placebo. I just full send get a kit.

There are some GBs where you can get half-kits which is an option and more cost effective. And some GBs have overstock, and you can get tested single vials for a much cheaper price than local source w/fancy websites.

B/S/T channels and groups exist but at that point just buy from a local source bc IMO their prices are in the ballpark and sometimes COA is iffy. I've seen ppl sell failed batches at ridiculous prices and include filters with it like it's going to do anything meaningful smh.

 

[chewonmysac]

My wallet got laid out in the first few months. Then I settled into my stack and just keep it replenished every couple of months. I do have an order problem. I always need to know another delivery is coming so I can satisfy my Dopamine and Serotonin receptors. The sound of the FedEx truck is music to my ears.