Which is why the degradation was a bit surprising. I store mine at -40 for now. Waiting for a -80 freezer to show up on ebay that looks good.
I took a chance with LSPL
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I have not figured out how to get into the group buys, so I end up just sending mine off for testing. If I order 5 kits @ T30 then add 300 for testing that's still a substantial savings over retail. Trying to get enough stockpile to keep me until 2036 🙂
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
how's this for you?
-86℃ (-112 ℉) Portable Ultra Low Temperature Freezer for Lab Samples Storage | eBay
About this item ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE: Freezer can cool down to minus 86 Celcius (-123 °F) PORTABLE: Can be carried by one person, with external dimensions of 30.7x16.1x20.3 in (78x41x51 cm) 20L VOLUME: Interior chamber dimensions of 13.1x8.7x13.4 in (33x22x34 cm) THICK INSULATION: Dual door...
www.ebay.com
That's EXACTLY my thinking as well!!!
Saw that exact one on Made-in-China for a FRACTION of that price. I've been looking at purchasing one of these for a minute. The exact specs and everything for the majority I find on websites are always on made-in-china. Most all have an MOQ of 1pc which is even more tempting.how's this for you?
-86℃ (-112 ℉) Portable Ultra Low Temperature Freezer for Lab Samples Storage | eBay
About this item ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE: Freezer can cool down to minus 86 Celcius (-123 °F) PORTABLE: Can be carried by one person, with external dimensions of 30.7x16.1x20.3 in (78x41x51 cm) 20L VOLUME: Interior chamber dimensions of 13.1x8.7x13.4 in (33x22x34 cm) THICK INSULATION: Dual door...www.ebay.com
How much did it degrade?
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I believe 1 to 2 percent
If you mean group test (rather than group buy, which has two different meanings, neither of which is simply a group test), the main ones are done through a semi-secret society which has a pretty high barrier to entry and everyone is sworn to secrecy because it doesn't exist.😉
A newer, more open one on Telegram--Flying Purple Pep Guild-- runs its own group tests and also has links to other test groups: See if this invitation is valid https://t.me/+wLpJL2bMgkNhMTJh
I'll add only that these test groups are only for end-users, not vendors or resellers trying not to invest in their own businesses
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Thanks, I just popped in there. I am waiting for a delivery from a new (old) supplier. I'll be sending that off next week.
Yes, 2 percent not terrible but note worthy
I've been looking at units like that. Trying to decide if I want to roll the dice on one at that price. Saw a few refurbs too.how's this for you?
-86℃ (-112 ℉) Portable Ultra Low Temperature Freezer for Lab Samples Storage | eBay
About this item ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE: Freezer can cool down to minus 86 Celcius (-123 °F) PORTABLE: Can be carried by one person, with external dimensions of 30.7x16.1x20.3 in (78x41x51 cm) 20L VOLUME: Interior chamber dimensions of 13.1x8.7x13.4 in (33x22x34 cm) THICK INSULATION: Dual door...www.ebay.com
NUMBERS999
GLP-1 Novice
5 days? Did it come from a USA warehouse?
So you have two tests from the same batch and the same lab and theirs a 1% or 2% degrade. Am I correct?
EllenRipley
GLP-1 Novice
CN. It shipped via DHL, and I was surprised it arrived as fast as it did. I placed a small order just to see how things would go with shipping. I really wanted to order from PGB but haven't figured out BC yet, so I took this route. This was a 1-time experience for me, and I am in no way suggesting everyone will have the same experience.
Yes, I sent a vial for testing. Posted results earlier in this thread.
Not to steer too far away, but Jano recently stated that regular home freezers are fine. He said they have samples for over a decade. The main thing is keeping it below freezing.how's this for you?
-86℃ (-112 ℉) Portable Ultra Low Temperature Freezer for Lab Samples Storage | eBay
About this item ULTRA LOW TEMPERATURE: Freezer can cool down to minus 86 Celcius (-123 °F) PORTABLE: Can be carried by one person, with external dimensions of 30.7x16.1x20.3 in (78x41x51 cm) 20L VOLUME: Interior chamber dimensions of 13.1x8.7x13.4 in (33x22x34 cm) THICK INSULATION: Dual door...www.ebay.com
His quote: "I don't think there's a reasonable amount of years that the peptides would go bad in the freezer."
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that -80 degrees will do anything much different than -20 degrees. I would only purchase a dedicated one if sub $300 otherwise home freezer it is.
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Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
link please, if you have it....
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
@CorncobCowboy update please, helps us all. Did you get the product, or tracking #? Thanks,
Airborne Daddy
GLP-1 Enthusiast
I have no tests. Someone had a test.
raw_oyster_eater
lemon bottle brewer
it be helpful if people followed up on their posts.
Sorry for the confusion here. I sent one vial off for testing. The results came back that the product was about 97% pure with what appears to be about 2% heat degradation. So, originally roughly 99% pure but about 2% was lost to (likely) heat degradation.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
Did she microwave it before sending it your way or what, it's winter lol
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
not everywhere.....e.i. summer in Australia
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
You're right, for most of us at least it's winter
BrowsingAbout
GLP-1 Apprentice
The company ZZQ, whose tests LSPL has posted as theirs, popped up yesterday on PepChat. I didn’t get too far down the rabbit hole, but they look to have the same price list, the same outdated tests, and shipping is the same.
Fisherman2356
GLP-1 Apprentice
OUCH, too late for me. I just placed a fat order over $600 yesterday. Keep the bad news coming guys LOL
christa_channing
GLP-1 Novice
I just placed an order this morning and joined the test group.
BrowsingAbout
GLP-1 Apprentice
God speed! Join the testing groups!!
LSPL is very upfront about ZZQ being a "subsidiary" (as they put it) of theirs. I'm not sure what their goal is in running the two identically, with no difference in product selection, pricing, target market of any discernible sort. But I wouldn't take it as a red flag.
Their understanding of the point to lab testing, the importance of clearly distinct numbered batches with distinct cap colors, and their posting of inappropriate CoAs) -- that's another story. I strongly suspect they have a false participant in the current third-party group tests and will violate 30-day secrecy rules to post the resulting CoA immediately. Those I'd take as red flags.
