I took a chance with LSPL

I ordered based on two recent third-party tests (one from well-trusted Krysia), for tirz and reta, which were both good. And based on the hunch that they're pulling from the same supply chain as many other (or related?) finisher/vendor companies.

My tirz 60 batch is being tested by the group linked above, which now has ~20 participants (including me) to share the cost. And a fairly benign, salesy visit from the vendor, who was promptly chased away!
I have not figured out how to get into the group buys, so I end up just sending mine off for testing. If I order 5 kits @ T30 then add 300 for testing that's still a substantial savings over retail. Trying to get enough stockpile to keep me until 2036 🙂
 
I have not figured out how to get into the group buys, so I end up just sending mine off for testing. If I order 5 kits @ T30 then add 300 for testing that's still a substantial savings over retail. Trying to get enough stockpile to keep me until 2036 🙂
That's EXACTLY my thinking as well!!!
how's this for you?
Saw that exact one on Made-in-China for a FRACTION of that price. I've been looking at purchasing one of these for a minute. The exact specs and everything for the majority I find on websites are always on made-in-china. Most all have an MOQ of 1pc which is even more tempting.
 
I have not figured out how to get into the group buys, so I end up just sending mine off for testing. If I order 5 kits @ T30 then add 300 for testing that's still a substantial savings over retail. Trying to get enough stockpile to keep me until 2036 🙂
If you mean group test (rather than group buy, which has two different meanings, neither of which is simply a group test), the main ones are done through a semi-secret society which has a pretty high barrier to entry and everyone is sworn to secrecy because it doesn't exist.😉

A newer, more open one on Telegram--Flying Purple Pep Guild-- runs its own group tests and also has links to other test groups: See if this invitation is valid https://t.me/+wLpJL2bMgkNhMTJh

I'll add only that these test groups are only for end-users, not vendors or resellers trying not to invest in their own businesses
 
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If you mean group test (rather than group buy, which has two different meanings, neither of which is simply a group test), the main ones are done through a semi-secret society which has a pretty high barrier to entry and everyone is sworn to secrecy because it doesn't exist.😉

A newer, more open one on Telegram--Flying Purple Pep Guild-- runs its own group tests and also has links to other test groups: See if this invitation is valid https://t.me/+wLpJL2bMgkNhMTJh

I'll add only that these test groups are only for end-users, not vendors or resellers trying not to invest in their own businesses
Thanks, I just popped in there. I am waiting for a delivery from a new (old) supplier. I'll be sending that off next week.
 
how's this for you?
I've been looking at units like that. Trying to decide if I want to roll the dice on one at that price. Saw a few refurbs too.
 
5 days? Did it come from a USA warehouse?
CN. It shipped via DHL, and I was surprised it arrived as fast as it did. I placed a small order just to see how things would go with shipping. I really wanted to order from PGB but haven't figured out BC yet, so I took this route. This was a 1-time experience for me, and I am in no way suggesting everyone will have the same experience.
 
I did not see them that's why I was asking if both results were from the same lab. If you think about it two different vials a 1% difference is really minuscule I would think.
 
how's this for you?
Not to steer too far away, but Jano recently stated that regular home freezers are fine. He said they have samples for over a decade. The main thing is keeping it below freezing.

His quote: "I don't think there's a reasonable amount of years that the peptides would go bad in the freezer."
 
I did not see them that's why I was asking if both results were from the same lab. If you think about it two different vials a 1% difference is really minuscule I would think.
Sorry for the confusion here. I sent one vial off for testing. The results came back that the product was about 97% pure with what appears to be about 2% heat degradation. So, originally roughly 99% pure but about 2% was lost to (likely) heat degradation.
 
Sorry for the confusion here. I sent one vial off for testing. The results came back that the product was about 97% pure with what appears to be about 2% heat degradation. So, originally roughly 99% pure but about 2% was lost to (likely) heat degradation.
Did she microwave it before sending it your way or what, it's winter lol
 
The company ZZQ, whose tests LSPL has posted as theirs, popped up yesterday on PepChat. I didn’t get too far down the rabbit hole, but they look to have the same price list, the same outdated tests, and shipping is the same.
 
The company ZZQ, whose tests LSPL has posted as theirs, popped up yesterday on PepChat. I didn’t get too far down the rabbit hole, but they look to have the same price list, the same outdated tests, and shipping is the same.
OUCH, too late for me. I just placed a fat order over $600 yesterday. Keep the bad news coming guys LOL
 
The company ZZQ, whose tests LSPL has posted as theirs, popped up yesterday on PepChat. I didn’t get too far down the rabbit hole, but they look to have the same price list, the same outdated tests, and shipping is the same.
LSPL is very upfront about ZZQ being a "subsidiary" (as they put it) of theirs. I'm not sure what their goal is in running the two identically, with no difference in product selection, pricing, target market of any discernible sort. But I wouldn't take it as a red flag.

Their understanding of the point to lab testing, the importance of clearly distinct numbered batches with distinct cap colors, and their posting of inappropriate CoAs) -- that's another story. I strongly suspect they have a false participant in the current third-party group tests and will violate 30-day secrecy rules to post the resulting CoA immediately. Those I'd take as red flags.
 

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