I took a chance with LSPL

[scarywood75]

In an effort to encourage harm reduction and to combat fake news, Stairmaster, Tracy, Zippity and I have compiled this comprehensive list of recommended vendors, with each separated by tiers. I hope this list can keep everyone safe.

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I think I deserve my place in S tier

 

[msorganized01]

Don’t know but they were recently banned here.

So should I not order from them? Every single time I think I've made a decision on who to go with, I find a post about something shady going down about them on here.

 

[chmuse]

So should I not order from them? Every single time I think I've made a decision on who to go with, I find a post about something shady going down about them on here.

Pretty much every vendor has had a scandal at some point. Try to choose one people have been talking about positively recently.

LSPL is newer, so we know less about her. But she was banned for offering free bacteriostatic water for reviews. Make your own decisions with that knowledge. The forum doesn't allow gifts for reviews, so she was banned.

 

[AndyPanda]

So should I not order from them? Every single time I think I've made a decision on who to go with, I find a post about something shady going down about them on here.

I don’t know of them ripping anyone off or anything nefarious. Like the last response from chmuse, you can find positive reviews from people if you read on. No vendor has a perfect track record.

I feel like Nexaph and bfflist are both good options for people who are hesitant. They are a little more expensive than others but they have websites. Nexaph, you can pay with a credit card. My current go to has been SRY-Lisa. They have had stellar deals. All three vendors I mentioned have domestic warehouses.

Do your research though. People on here don’t like to give recommendations for vendors because a lot can go wrong.

 

[msorganized01]

I don’t know of them ripping anyone off or anything nefarious. Like the last response from chmuse, you can find positive reviews from people if you read on. No vendor has a perfect track record.

I feel like Nexaph and bfflist are both good options for people who are hesitant. They are a little more expensive than others but they have websites. Nexaph, you can pay with a credit card. My current go to has been SRY-Lisa. They have had stellar deals. All three vendors I mentioned have domestic warehouses.

Do your research though. People on here don’t like to give recommendations for vendors because a lot can go wrong.

Thank you for taking the time to reply and explain! As a newbie, I really appreciate it!

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I don’t know of them ripping anyone off or anything nefarious. Like the last response from chmuse, you can find positive reviews from people if you read on. No vendor has a perfect track record.

I feel like Nexaph and bfflist are both good options for people who are hesitant. They are a little more expensive than others but they have websites. Nexaph, you can pay with a credit card. My current go to has been SRY-Lisa. They have had stellar deals. All three vendors I mentioned have domestic warehouses.

Do your research though. People on here don’t like to give recommendations for vendors because a lot can go wrong.

I'm with argument that every 3 and 4 letter chinese company all get their stuff from the same source. They pick a stopper and cap color and place a large order.... its all the same. The note on top the kit always the same font and same text with same abbreviations. Only thing that changes is cap colors.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

I'm with argument that every 3 and 4 letter chinese company all get their stuff from the same source. They pick a stopper and cap color and place a large order.... its all the same. The note on topi a the kit always the same font and same text with same abbreviations. Only thing that changes is cap colors.

i agree. is a lot of the testing that goes on redundant and unnecessary.

 

[indolent]

I'm with argument that every 3 and 4 letter chinese company all get their stuff from the same source. They pick a stopper and cap color and place a large order.... its all the same. The note on top the kit always the same font and same text with same abbreviations. Only thing that changes is cap colors.

These change a bit, and private investigator Krysia has a database* of them from various vendors across time on her new Discord.

*The database is really more of an unwieldy, disorganized, continuous thread of photographs and explanations, with a certain amount of tying them together. But it's a good start towards also matching them up to more or less identical independent CoAs.

 

[GLiPtest]

Someone had posted an article recently.. Novo states Ozempic/Wegovy comes in around 97% purity. I have been using it for 3 years and I am still here.

There is one critical difference.

Every impurity that develops in pharma peptides has to be specifically characterized and assessed for risk. Impurities that are high risk to health must be eliminated. All of this is heavily documented and reviewed by the FDA.

The types of impurities that could be present are specific to the pharma formulation, manufacturing method, packaging, and storage. If anything changes, the impurities have to be recharachterized and get FDA approval.

None of this occurs with underground lab produced peptides.

 

[keangkong]

There is one critical difference.

Every impurity that develops in pharma peptides has to be specifically characterized and assessed for risk. Impurities that are high risk to health must be eliminated. All of this is heavily documented and reviewed by the FDA.

The types of impurities that could be present are specific to the pharma formulation, manufacturing method, packaging, and storage. If anything changes, the impurities have to be recharachterized and get FDA approval.

None of this occurs with underground lab produced peptides.

I agree with you in part but only part. Janoshik says that using purity of a peptide is a worthless metric for measuring either the safety of what in a vial or how effective it will be. What's important is the net peptide ingested. A purity calculation simply reflects the target peptide mass divided by the total peptide mass, multiplied by 100. Janoshik says that the purity percentage provides clues as to the age of the peptide, the quality of its manufacture, and how much it has degraded.
I highly recommend Lab FAQ Guide With Janoshik Analytical. However, you have to be a member of Peppy's to have access to it. Then you're prohibited from publishing it elsewhere, as I'd like to do now.

If you're not a member of Peppy's and wish to join, contact FamousGoodKitty.

Interestingly, Janoshik believes sterility is usually not an issue with lypholized products. I highly recommend reading the guide that I mentioned from Peppy's. I've resisted quoting from it. However, since I'm not a scientist, my paraphrasing may be off.