In Novo’s Own Words: Degradation of Amylin Analogs Such as Cagrilintide (and How to Test For It)

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In Novo’s Own Words: Degradation of Amylin Analogs Such as Cagrilintide (and How to Test For It)​

“A hallmark of the pancreatic hormone amylin is its high propensity toward the formation of amyloid fibrils, which makes it a challenging drug design effort.”​

So begins Novo Nordisk’s excellent design study of cagrilintide.[1] In the very first sentence, the creators of cagrilintide lay out their challenge: formulating an amylin analog that doesn’t form amyloid fibrils.

Human amylin is a hormone that's released after eating along with insulin within the pancreas and helps regulate food intake and body weight. Researchers have long been interested in the potential of human amylin to address obesity.

“Human amylin is also involved in the cytotoxic amyloid formation [2] seen in … patients with type 2 diabetes. It is therefore pivotal that drug development of amylin mimetics addresses the propensity of human amylin to form fibrils.”​

But the problem is that amylin is highly unstable. It degrades rapidly and begins to aggregate, which is where degraded amylin molecules combine with other amylin molecules and develop into fibrils.

Fibrils are like a bunch of perfectly straight strands of yarn (peptides) that have become tangled up together, forming a messy ball of yarn. These fibrils then form the basis of amyloid deposits that have been implicated in a variety of degenerative diseases, including Type 2 Diabetes and Alzheimer’s Disease.

This is the challenge that Novo’s researchers were facing when they set out to design an analog (a synthtic version) of human amylin.

“The amylin analogue pramlintide is commercially available for diabetes treatment as an adjunct to insulin therapy but requires three daily injections due to its short half-life… This suggests an option for improvement by reducing the frequency of the injection. ”​

Pramlintide was the first analog of human amylin to be FDA approved in 2005 for diabetes treatment. Researchers noticed that rat amylin was more stable than human amylin in that it was less prone to aggregation which led to amyloid fibril formation. Rat amylin differs from human amylin by six amino acids of which three are prolines that researchers discovered were responsible for the suppression of fibril formation. So they created an analog of human amylin with those three proline substitutions and they called it "pramlintide."

Novo researchers are bringing up pramlintide because it’s a more stable analog, but it has a very short half life that makes it impractical compared to the once-weekly dosing of other weight loss peptides. This presents their second challenge which eventually led to the development of cagrilintide.

“Published data on pramlintide [17, 18] suggested a need for improvement of chemical stability, primarily targeting deamidation of asparagine residues to enable formulation at neutral pH.”​

Even though pramlintide was formulated more like rat amylin to be more stable and prevent fibrillation, the researchers are acknowledging here that pramlintide also has problems with instability. In particular, is is prone to a particular kind of degradation called “deamidation”—but only when formulated at a neutral pH of ~7.0.

"Deamidation of asparagine residues" refers to a chemical reaction where the asparagine (Asn) side chain loses its amide group (-NH2), converting it into aspartic acid (Asp). This leads to a whole slew of consequences.​

Deamidation changes the charge of the molecule, which affects how the peptide interacts with other molecules. It makes the peptide bend or kink, changing its shape. Both the changes in charge and shape affect the peptide’s function, affecting its ability to perform its intended action in the body. Deamidation can make the peptide immunogenic (able to trigger an allergic reaction).

But most importantly, deamidation weakens the peptide, making it more susceptible to further degradation and aggregation. This is what enables fibrillation.

The researchers attempted to solve this problem with cagrilintide. Did they succeed?

"We found that formulation [of cagrilintide] at pH 7 caused chemical instability including deamidation of asparagine residues, as reported for pramlintide [17, 18], and this could not be solved by formulations or minor pH adjustments.”​

The cagrilintide researchers at Novo Nordisk are acknowledging here that they failed in their attempt to make cagrilintide stable at a neutral pH, and they were unable to solve that problem using special formulations.

“In order not to deviate too much from [human]-amylin, formulation at low pH seemed necessary. We initiated a third branch of the program focused on the chemical stability at neutral pH to secure the option of co-formulation with other peptides. This part of the program led to NN1558 and will be reported elsewhere."​

Their failure to prevent deamidation of cagrilintide at a neutral pH led to the development of a new program aimed at solving that problem. They labeled this new compound, “NN1558.”

What were the results?

“Results: NN1558 monotherapy increased body weight after an initial period (~3 days) of weight loss. This increase in body weight was accompanied by increased food intake.”​

This is what Novo researchers published in the research journal “Obesity” about NN1558.[3] They attempted to make a cagrilintide that was stable at pH 4.0, and it actually resulted in an **increase** of body weight. In other words, they failed.

Novo researchers also recently published a report about *another* amylin analog only a few months ago called NN1213.[4] This new report contained some interesting new insights about amylin that Novo hadn’t shared in their cagrilintide report. But first, we’ll cover the goal of this new analog and whether they succeeded with it.

“The first series of peptides were synthesized based on the human amylin scaffold, aiming at formulation at neutral pH.”​

Once again, the goal was to create a “cagrilintide” that was stable at a neutral pH of ~7.0.

Did they succeed?

“It was found that the chemical stability at neutral pH required for a drug candidate was not sufficient… This was partly related to deamidation and isomerization at asparagine residues but also the disulfide bridge.”​

The new analogs had the same problems as cagrilintide at pH 7, but also suffered from instability of the disulfide bridge. The disulfide bridge is critical for the biological functionality of amylin and also protects it from aggregation. This was likely an issue for cagrilintide as well, though it wasn’t reported—the researchers in that report said that instability of cagrilintide “included” deamidation, implying there were other kinds of degradation.

“Degradation of the asparagine residues and general stability were significantly improved at pH 4.”​

Just like cagrilintide, these new amylin analogs were found to only be stable at a pH of 4.

“Initially, it seemed likely that a neutral formulation was possible… However, as development of a neutral formulation not only caused deamidation but also involved disulfide bridge instability, it was decided to revert to using an acidic formulation.”​

Again like cagrilintide, and then NN1558, the researchers finally gave up on making this new amylin analog stable at a neutral pH.

Now, onto the interesting insights they hadn’t shared in their cagrilintide report. Within the context of discussing the potential of amylin to form fibrils, here’s what they said:

“The amino acid sequence of human amylin enables a process of misfolding whereby monomeric amylin initially forms soluble beta-sheet-rich oligomers that may be cytotoxic.”​

For the first time, Novo researchers are discussing not only fibrils, but also oligomers. To understand oligomers, imagine you have a box of LEGO bricks. Each individual brick is a **monomer** (mono meaning "one"). Now, if you connect a few of these bricks together, you create a small chain called an **oligomer** (oligo meaning "a few"). When two bricks connect, that's called a **dimer**, and three is a **trimer**.

These oligomers, or short chains of amylin, then form bonds with each other in a side-by-side arrangement, forming sheet-like structures called beta sheets.

They note here that oligomers “may be cytotoxic,” meaning toxic to cells. The research on amylin oligomers is actually much more conclusive than “maybe:” oligomers disrupt cell membranes, induce stress in the endoplasmic reticulum, cause mitochondrial dysfunction, increase oxidative stress, trigger inflammation, and damage DNA.[5]

“Over time, these oligomers may mature further into elongated structures with a high content of beta-sheet strands and finally generate insoluble protein aggregates that are [visible under a microscope] as amyloid fibrils in islets.”​

Eventually, all those oligomers form fibrils in islets, which are small clusters of insulin-producing cells within the pancreas.

 

“Some of these toxic oligomeric species are associated with beta-cell death and the progression of type 2 diabetes (16−18)”​

Here, they cite research showing that not fibrils, but toxic oligomers are what cause the death of the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. This is from the first study cited:

“The mature amyloid fibril is presumed to be relatively inert and to have no significant cell toxicity. Rather, smaller oligomeric intermediates formed during fibrillogenesis are thought to be cytotoxic.”

That study goes on to point out that initially it was believed that fibrils are the cause of disease, but “subsequent reports have underlined that it is small, oligomeric [amylin] aggregates and not fibrils that constitute the toxic species.”

“The stability properties of the individual amylin analogs were assessed with respect to their propensity toward amyloid fibril formation. The relative amount of covalent dimers and polymers (HMWP) present prior to fibril formation testing was [also] measured.”​

A dimer is two peptide molecules stuck together. The researchers are calling dimers “HMWP” (High Molecular Weight Products) along with longer oligomers that they’re calling polymers. After an amylin or cagrilintide molecule has been degraded and destabilized by a higher pH than 4.0, it then begins to stick to other amylin/cagrilintide molecules. This is the first step in becoming an oligomer, and as the Novo researchers have already established, oligomers are toxic to cells (leading to beta-cell death and progression of Type 2 diabetes).

They used Thioflavin T (ThT) to test for fibrils, but we’re not really interested in fibrils since they’re nowhere near as harmful as oligomers. So here’s how they measured the amount of dimers:

“Assessment of High Molecular Weight Product Content by Size-Exclusion Chromatography”​

Novo Nordisk uses Size Exclusion Chromatography (SEC) because it's the gold standard for assessing the presence of dimers and other oligomers. This is also the view of the US Pharmacopeia, which sets standards federal standards for drug products, as well as the FDA’s Senior Pharmaceutical Quality Assessor.[8]

Reverse-Phase High-Performance Liquid Chromatography (RP-HPLC) may be considered the gold standard for separating and purifying peptide molecules, but this is not universally true. For example, ion exchange chromatography (IEX) is superior to HPLC for charged peptides.[9] For quantifying aggregates such as dimers and trimers, Size Exclusion Chromatography is considered the gold standard.[10][11]

The reason the FDA and USP don’t advise RP-HPLC is because it’s not sensitive enough to detect dimers. If you analyze cagrilintide that has begun to aggregate using RP-HPLC, the dimers will elute about the same time, meaning they will still show up as monomers (single molecules). So the test results will still show high purity since the dimers are undetectable with this method.

The pramlintide degradation study also supports this notion, as it employed a form of analysais even more sensitive than SEC to detect dimers called Electrospray ionization–ion mobility spectrometry–mass spectrometry (ESI-IMS-MS). The pramlintide study uses multiple tests to confirm the presence of oligomers because SEC has limitations.[12]

Even deamidation, which is the form of degradation that cagrilintide goes through above pH 4 that leads to aggregation into dimers, cannot be adequately be detected with RP-HPLC.[13]

The Bottom Line​

In Novo Nordisk’s own words, Cagrilintide ***absolutely** **must*** be formulated at a pH of 4.0. Much higher, and the peptides rapidly begin to degrade, leading to aggregation and the development of highly toxic oligomers. It is these oligomers themselves that are the most toxic species and not fibrils themselves. To test for the development of oligomers, Size Exclusion Chromatography (SEC) is the gold standard (at the bare minimum—there are also platinum and diamond standards). Anyone who tries to tell you that cagrilintide is safe (doesn't degrade) at a pH above 4.0 based on a test with anything less than SEC (including the RP-HPLC test from PTDS) is either ignorant or they have ulterior motives. They are asserting that they know better than Novo Nordisk themselves, as well as the US Pharmacopeia and the FDA. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence—so what extraordinary evidence do they offer?
 
I’m not opposed to reconning my cagri to achieve a pH of 4, but I get totally lost every time I try to figure out how to do that. I guess you’re supposed to use acetic acid? How much? Is there a specific type that you should use (i.e., safe for injection)? I’ve been using lots of Cagri for 4 months now and I’ve got 8 vials in my freezer rn. I’m genuinely curious about how to do this correctly, I get super confused every time I try to figure it out.
 
@secretweapon sorry who are you? You just joined today to post this, and your conclusion is that people who disagree with your assessment have ulterior motives?
for some more context this guy has been in the peptidetest.com and swiss discord server for a while now. this post was put together by him back on 11/27 and it looks like he's just spreading his word/findings a bit. not that my word means anything but i've found him to be pretty competent in this space and the other lab/chemist nerds that populate discord seem to agree.

this post was put together after a lot of back and forth with a few others, one person in particular who seemed to have some financial ulterior motives in recommending cagri as a safe peptide for folks to inject. i don't believe he's actually referring to folks on this forum, as again this is a pure copy and paste.

idk about making a brand new account to copy/paste this and then not stick around for questions though, lol.
 
I’m not opposed to reconning my cagri to achieve a pH of 4, but I get totally lost every time I try to figure out how to do that. I guess you’re supposed to use acetic acid? How much? Is there a specific type that you should use (i.e., safe for injection)? I’ve been using lots of Cagri for 4 months now and I’ve got 8 vials in my freezer rn. I’m genuinely curious about how to do this correctly, I get super confused every time I try to figure it out.
even if you did recon at a pH of 4, you could never be sure/trust that the manufacture (who's not novo nordisk in this case) were doing the same before the vials show up on your doorstep.
 
for some more context this guy has been in the peptidetest.com and swiss discord server for a while now. this post was put together by him back on 11/27 and it looks like he's just spreading his word/findings a bit. not that my word means anything but i've found him to pretty competent in this space and the other lab/chemist nerds that populate discord seem to agree.

this post was put together after a lot of back and forth with a few others, one person in particular who seemed to have some financial ulterior motives in recommending cagri as a safe peptide for folks to inject. i don't believe he's actually referring to folks on this forum, as again this is a pure copy and paste.

idk about making a brand new account to copy/paste this and then not stick around for questions though, lol.
Yes, this is correct. Not directed at anyone on this forum.
 
Did I say anywhere that people who disagree with my assessment have ulterior motives?
Yes, you did:
Anyone who tries to tell you that cagrilintide is safe (doesn't degrade) at a pH above 4.0 based on a test with anything less than SEC (including the RP-HPLC test from PTDS) is either ignorant or they have ulterior motives
 
You only gave two possibilities, ignorant or ulterior motives. Even in my ignorance I know there's more than two possibilities. You've punctuated an interesting read with a contentious finale. If you disagree with that you're either ignorant (you've demonstrated your not) or you have ulterior motives.
 
Why didn’t you answer my question: who are you?
what kind of answer are you looking for?

Someone shared to Discord a link to the recent fibril post here. I reviewed it, and thought, these guys might appreciate a thorough examination of everything that Novo had to say about the topic.
 

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