Injecting yourself with medication isn't for everyone

[ZippityDooDah]

I keep seeing people on Reddit and elsewhere who are confused about how to calculate their desired dosage, or worse "accidently" overdose themselves. Then they get all pissy and defensive when I suggest that maybe this isn't the best path for them.

I realize that math isn't everyone's strong suit, but if people can't fully understand how to properly calculate or administer their dosage, they really need to reconsider if self-injecting is right for them. The same people probably wouldn't hesitate to bring their car to a garage for repairs that they don't feel comfortable doing themselves, yet they somehow assume that injecting themselves with drugs is no big deal.

Fortunately an accidental overdose of these GLP-1 meds isn't likely to kill anyone, but a little self-awareness and acknowledgement of one's own limitations would sure be a good thing for people to keep in mind before making such an important decision about their health. I get that wanting to lose weight and be healthier are strong motivators, but please take some time to seriously ask yourself if this is something you can commit to doing accurately and properly before starting. /rant

 

[JayEm79]

I saw that post too. Further, the fact that they mentioned others have done it (if you’ve read the thread long enough 😂🤣) as a defense is just downright frightening & stupid. Seriously, how???

 

[Nightlily]

I whole heartedly agree. I recently joined a microneedling group, interested in using it for hair loss. Some of the people in the group are also diy-ing Botox and lip filler injections, etc. I can fully recognize my diy limits include self injected Botox! Lol. More power to those that can but I know it’s not for me.

It’s a good trait to have to recognize one’s own ability limits.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

It’s a good trait to have to recognize one’s own ability limits.

I'm really, really old (and feeling it lol), but since first hearing it in my youth I've always been a firm believer in a phrase made popular by the great philosopher Dirty Harry Callahan:

 

[doughnutcat]

There's a vendor offering the sema pill. I've seen. But I'm not a fan of orals. They are always hard on the liver and I take testosterone.

 

[Nightlily]

There's a vendor offering the sema pill. I've seen. But I'm not a fan of orals. They are always hard on the liver and I take testosterone.

I’m with you. I prefer injection.

 

[Yay-Z1]

I keep seeing people on Reddit and elsewhere who are confused about how to calculate their desired dosage, or worse "accidently" overdose themselves. Then they get all pissy and defensive when I suggest that maybe this isn't the best path for them.

I realize that math isn't everyone's strong suit, but if people can't fully understand how to properly calculate or administer their dosage, they really need to reconsider if self-injecting is right for them. The same people probably wouldn't hesitate to bring their car to a garage for repairs that they don't feel comfortable doing themselves, yet they somehow assume that injecting themselves with drugs is no big deal.

Fortunately an accidental overdose of these GLP-1 meds isn't likely to kill anyone, but a little self-awareness and acknowledgement of one's own limitations would sure be a good thing for people to keep in mind before making such an important decision about their health. I get that wanting to lose weight and be healthier are strong motivators, but please take some time to seriously ask yourself if this is something you can commit to doing accurately and properly before starting. /rant

Would you recommend we tell them to stick to compound and just follow instructions closely? Cos some things I have read had me concerned about folks DIYing.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Would you recommend we tell them to stick to compound and just follow instructions closely? Cos some things I have read had me concerned about folks DIYing.

The compounding route actually worries me a little more in some respects.

It seems like most of the compounding pharmacies provide dosing instructions in insulin units instead of mg per ml, so a lot of people are completely unaware of their dosage. There have probably been more questions asked about compounding dosing than reconstituting and dosing.

I'm hoping as time progresses we'll develop a good collection of information here for people to learn proper dosing calculations regardless of how their getting their GLP-1's. I'm a bit of a math nerd so it all made sense to me pretty quickly, but I'm terrible at explaining math to other people so that's where I'm hoping others will be able to contribute content making it easier for more people to understand without going back to school.

 

[Tidalwave]

I keep seeing people on Reddit and elsewhere who are confused about how to calculate their desired dosage, or worse "accidently" overdose themselves. Then they get all pissy and defensive when I suggest that maybe this isn't the best path for them.

I realize that math isn't everyone's strong suit, but if people can't fully understand how to properly calculate or administer their dosage, they really need to reconsider if self-injecting is right for them. The same people probably wouldn't hesitate to bring their car to a garage for repairs that they don't feel comfortable doing themselves, yet they somehow assume that injecting themselves with drugs is no big deal.

Fortunately an accidental overdose of these GLP-1 meds isn't likely to kill anyone, but a little self-awareness and acknowledgement of one's own limitations would sure be a good thing for people to keep in mind before making such an important decision about their health. I get that wanting to lose weight and be healthier are strong motivators, but please take some time to seriously ask yourself if this is something you can commit to doing accurately and properly before starting. /rant

‘’Almost nothing works the first time it’s attempted. Just because what you’re doing does not seem to be working, doesn’t mean it won’t work. It just means that it might not work the way you’re doing it.”​

— Bob Parsons

 

[J5ofus]

I whole heartedly agree. I recently joined a microneedling group, interested in using it for hair loss. Some of the people in the group are also diy-ing Botox and lip filler injections, etc. I can fully recognize my diy limits include self injected Botox! Lol. More power to those that can but I know it’s not for me.

It’s a good trait to have to recognize one’s own ability limits.

Agreed. I know my limits and I perform tons of research before I do anything DIY. I have self injected Botox for TMJ and have also done it for wrinkles. I have probably placed over 100 threads in my face, but I won’t do filler - the potential for occlusion scares the heck out of me. The side effects of a misplaced toxin injection is fairly minor - maybe a droop for a few months (which fortunately never happened to me) and the worse you can do with threads is to place them too superficially. But fillers are a whole different risk factor to me.

 

[pseudoshrink]

I am a 1000% math challenged individual. I begged, brown nosed, and cheated my way through precalc algebra or I would never have finished college. I have zero conscience about that. Counselors don’t use algebra! 😁 The problem IMO is not as much ability as it is commitment. I read for hours (thank you, smart people of Reddit) before I felt confident in taking on research peptides. Once I’d made my choices and calculations, I double checked them with a family member who is a NP and who takes Mounjaro herself. I could have asked her first, but I wanted to test my own understanding, you know?

All this took me several weeks, not a 2 minute ask on Reddit or worse yet, Facebook. I fear for the people you refer to because they seem willing to trust people they don’t know and who owe them nothing. Most people are cool and kind, but how could you possibly know your information was correct without a little willingness to do due diligence?

 

[Nightlily]

I am a 1000% math challenged individual. I begged, brown nosed, and cheated my way through precalc algebra or I would never have finished college. I have zero conscience about that. Counselors don’t use algebra! 😁 The problem IMO is not as much ability as it is commitment. I read for hours (thank you, smart people of Reddit) before I felt confident in taking on research peptides. Once I’d made my choices and calculations, I double checked them with a family member who is a NP and who takes Mounjaro herself. I could have asked her first, but I wanted to test my own understanding, you know?

All this took me several weeks, not a 2 minute ask on Reddit or worse yet, Facebook. I fear for the people you refer to because they seem willing to trust people they don’t know and who owe them nothing. Most people are cool and kind, but how could you possibly know your information was correct without a little willingness to do due diligence?

Well said.

 

[Yay-Z1]

@ZippityDooDah I submit to the court 😂😅😂😅:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Mounjaro/comments/15pza27

 

[ZippityDooDah]

Just watch, before we know it this person will be getting elected to congress! 🤪

 

[pseudoshrink]

I think the smoke may have been in the room BEFORE he forgot to take the safety cap off. 🔥🚬

 

[Pissyrabbit]

There's a vendor offering the sema pill. I've seen. But I'm not a fan of orals. They are always hard on the liver and I take testosterone.

Surprisingly I like the injections too but the pill would be so much more convenient. I might try it.

 

[Reimann]

There's a vendor offering the sema pill. I've seen. But I'm not a fan of orals. They are always hard on the liver and I take testosterone.

I’ve taken the big pharma branded pill, Rybelsus. It was super effective for me. But it’s actually more expensive than the branded pens. Crazy.

 

[Reimann]

Would you recommend we tell them to stick to compound and just follow instructions closely? Cos some things I have read had me concerned about folks DIYing.

Ha! I did that and got downvoted. But I may have gotten a little snarky and deserved it. 😆

 

[Yay-Z1]

Ha! I did that and got downvoted. But I may have gotten a little snarky and deserved it. 😆

Probably best to just recommend pay out of pocket for name brand

 

[SassyPants]

I'm really, really old (and feeling it lol), but since first hearing it in my youth I've always been a firm believer in a phrase made popular by the great philosopher Dirty Harry Callahan:
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Love this! ( “ great philosopher Dirty Harry Callahan “ )

 

[blueboxgeek]

I whole heartedly agree. I recently joined a microneedling group, interested in using it for hair loss. Some of the people in the group are also diy-ing Botox and lip filler injections, etc. I can fully recognize my diy limits include self injected Botox! Lol. More power to those that can but I know it’s not for me.

It’s a good trait to have to recognize one’s own ability limits.

What microneedling group did you join? If you don't mind me asking, I just got a device but before starting want to gather as much data as possible....

 

[Nightlily]

What microneedling group did you join? If you don't mind me asking, I just got a device but before starting want to gather as much data as possible....

I’m in a few cause I deep dive hard lol.

Diy med beauty group
Microneedling group with a lot of professionals that get shocked when a diy-er posts lol
Microneedling group with lot of UK members

 

[tomlikesbeetroot]

It is really astounding the stupidity of some posts around.
"bought this vial online, but its a powder, do I need some kind of water to mix it?"

 

[lasagnabeach]

It concerns me in part because you can find most of this stiff on YouTube, Google, etc. Or just using the search var in a forum. But people that go right to poking themselves or who just do zero research up front worry me about where society is headed lol

 

[buzer]

I can see how manufacturers thought about making the pen. It resembles insulin pens, easy to use etc. But now everybody is using compounding tirzy or Sem because of shortage and becoming experts at self injecting. I hope this doesn't extend to drug use 😉

 

[Cybilinside]

I keep seeing people on Reddit and elsewhere who are confused about how to calculate their desired dosage, or worse "accidently" overdose themselves. Then they get all pissy and defensive when I suggest that maybe this isn't the best path for them.

I realize that math isn't everyone's strong suit, but if people can't fully understand how to properly calculate or administer their dosage, they really need to reconsider if self-injecting is right for them. The same people probably wouldn't hesitate to bring their car to a garage for repairs that they don't feel comfortable doing themselves, yet they somehow assume that injecting themselves with drugs is no big deal.

Fortunately an accidental overdose of these GLP-1 meds isn't likely to kill anyone, but a little self-awareness and acknowledgement of one's own limitations would sure be a good thing for people to keep in mind before making such an important decision about their health. I get that wanting to lose weight and be healthier are strong motivators, but please take some time to seriously ask yourself if this is something you can commit to doing accurately and properly before starting. /rant

I just got kicked out of a Facebook group because some idiot was telling another idiot that if he used more bac water he'd have a higher dose. I'm sorry to be an ass, but if you're too stupid to figure out basic math and too lazy to the slightest bit of research before starting this, you have no business anywhere near a pep.

 

[Broken Chef]

It is really astounding the stupidity of some posts around.
"bought this vial online, but its a powder, do I need some kind of water to mix it?"

Yes it is! I've seen quite a few Reddit posts stating they have the vial, but don't know what to do with it. It's mind boggling!

I spent over 40 hours reading and talking to people before I ordered.

I ask questions to the point of being annoying.. but I don't care what it takes to acquire the knowledge I need to feel comfortable doing something... Especially injecting something!

Even scarier yet is where they got it from! If they didn't research how to use it, they damn sure didn't research how to buy from a legit supplier.

I see things every day that reminds me of a famous quote...

Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that! - George Carlin

 

[Bacchus]

Tbh, if you aren’t able to figure out how to calculate your dose - you haven’t tried.

If you inject without knowing that your dose is correct - then Darwin will get you eventually anyway

A lot of these posts would be solved if doctors would let their patient know their dose in mg. But it isn’t really hard to convert either.

 

[Approach]

I keep seeing people on Reddit and elsewhere who are confused about how to calculate their desired dosage, or worse "accidently" overdose themselves. Then they get all pissy and defensive when I suggest that maybe this isn't the best path for them.

I realize that math isn't everyone's strong suit, but if people can't fully understand how to properly calculate or administer their dosage, they really need to reconsider if self-injecting is right for them. The same people probably wouldn't hesitate to bring their car to a garage for repairs that they don't feel comfortable doing themselves, yet they somehow assume that injecting themselves with drugs is no big deal.

Fortunately an accidental overdose of these GLP-1 meds isn't likely to kill anyone, but a little self-awareness and acknowledgement of one's own limitations would sure be a good thing for people to keep in mind before making such an important decision about their health. I get that wanting to lose weight and be healthier are strong motivators, but please take some time to seriously ask yourself if this is something you can commit to doing accurately and properly before starting. /rant

Well said. Great points. I don't know how I can be educated, yet crazy stupid with calculating doseages. Bottom line is: I am! I highly suggest you have a trusted mentor/friend to review calculations, and make sure you're making good choices otherwise, don't inject peptides.

 

[Broken Chef]

Well said. Great points. I don't know how I can be educated, yet crazy stupid with calculating doseages. Bottom line is: I am! I highly suggest you have a trusted mentor/friend to review calculations, and make sure you're making good choices otherwise, don't inject peptides.

There are various peptide calculators. I like the reverse peptide calculator so I can pick how many units I want to inject. I can do the math, but the calculator is much faster and I'm not second guessing.