Is any vendor selling Survodutide from China? Can only find ludicrous single-vial prices

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Been noticing that Tirz is starting to stall so the RS started stacking Cag midweek with it but the the loss of energy is killer. RS has also noticed that the Cag is losing effectiveness very fast every week the bump it provides is working less and less and so with the side effects, it prefers to switch. RS currently has Reta on hand which RS will switch to but Survodutide looks like the perfect replacement.

Anybody have or know a good source for Survodutide?
 
Do they sell in single vial or 10 vials? I can't find where they say it.
The term "kit" or occasionally "box" is used to refer to 10 vials at the stated mass per vial.

Out of curiosity, what about survodutide do you see as advantageous over retatrutide? [I've used neither, and on month two of 2.5mg (sub-therapeutic) weekly tirzepatide. I'm learning for eventual plateau/stall.
 
I will also add that tirz and Reta are very similar and I would not stack both. I would add cagri or survo to Reta or tirz once you hit a higher dose of either.

what about sema, which is a full glp-1 agonists? i believe the others are only partial glp-1.

QSC used to have survodutide, if they ever come back.
 
The term "kit" or occasionally "box" is used to refer to 10 vials at the stated mass per vial.

Out of curiosity, what about survodutide do you see as advantageous over retatrutide? [I've used neither, and on month two of 2.5mg (sub-therapeutic) weekly tirzepatide. I'm learning for eventual plateau/stall.
Sema the GLP1 = .38
Tirz the GLP1 = 4.23 with GIP = .135
Reta the GLP1 = 7.2 with GIP = .057 and GCCR = 5.6
Surv the GLP1 = 1 with GCCR = 8.3
Maz the GLP1 = 28.6 with GCCR = 17.7
Cag produces amylin so it doesn't have the bindings.

Lower numbers mean the peptide will bind better making it more effective. The GLP1 is the main appetite suppression effect, so in this case it's Sema, Surv, Tirz, and Reta for the best appetite suppression. The GIP makes you feel fuller longer by delaying gastric emptying so it's Reta and Tirz for this. The GCCR is the glucagon component aka energy so it goes Reta, Surv, and Maz.

When stacking it depends on what your goal is, some just add more of their peptide. In my RS subjects case the appetite suppression is failing with Tirz about midway through causing a slow down or stall. It is a common problem faced by many RS around the world and in the case of my RS they went with a cagrilintide but have run into the most common side effect from it, tiredness.

Amylin is what your body produces when you have a full stomach, so for the RS its like they have stuffed themselves on a Thanksgiving turkey for 2-3 days and just want to nap. Worse, the full stomach feeling is getting shorter after each shot but the tiredness remains.

Sema is an option but the RS has found the nausea side effects way stronger than he would like, aka throwing up. Stacking mid-week Tirz is on the table but the RS would prefer to stack something more synergistic for weight loss. Maz is an option but the bindings are weak and the RS would prefer a stronger one. Reta is a decent option but the appetite suppression is weaker than Tirz, the glucagon is nice and the RS responds well to GIP but isn't sure he needs a slower GI tract, the days after the shot can get a little 'hard' if you know what he means.

Surv seems to be the best option, it is the 2nd best for appetite suppression and it adds a new component to boost energy making it an excellent choice for a weight loss stack.
 
I think it’s helpful to consider that while Survo may have better receptor binding, it may not necessarily have a better effect. I would be careful of taking receptor binding to be the same as drug effectiveness. Receptor kinetics at play here. From my review of the literature however, Survo seems to cause the second largest amount of weight loss in the shortest time interval after Reta so there’s that piece of objective evidence.
 
Been noticing that Tirz is starting to stall so the RS started stacking Cag midweek with it but the the loss of energy is killer. RS has also noticed that the Cag is losing effectiveness very fast every week the bump it provides is working less and less and so with the side effects, it prefers to switch. RS currently has Reta on hand which RS will switch to but Survodutide looks like the perfect replacement.

Anybody have or know a good source for Survodutide?
yes i see that lspl/zzq has it. i think several vendors from china have it, check the price lists in the vendor forum here.

it tends to be a bit pricey imo
 
yes i see that lspl/zzq has it. i think several vendors from china have it, check the price lists in the vendor forum here.

it tends to be a bit pricey imo
Yeah, I have compared providers and $330 per kit seems to be the norm. It's not one that is very popular, but is apparently doing very well in trials. It does have a very high rate of gastric upset issues compared to other GLP1's in trials though.
 
Ronsen is selling Survodutide. 10 5mg vials for $125.9 + shipping.
that's not bad, i did hear ronsen had a bad issue recently with a group buy coordinator when they would not refund or reship low purity product - they ghosted the group buyer i think, but i don't know all the details here so please do your own research on that.

here our friend ava has 100mg for $320, i asked her for a sample and she said no. also ava is confirmed a him.


i don't know the dosing regimen so i don't know if $3/mg is high or not. seems high but i don't know. maybe not if you only take 0.25mg
 
i also think https://pgbmemberpass.com/ has a 12mg kit for $190 but you have to pay with crypto, and pay shipping unless you buy something else to get over $200 for free ship. i guess that works out to $2/mg after shipping, and pgb does testing
 
i don't know the dosing regimen so i don't know if $3/mg is high or not. seems high but i don't know. maybe not if you only take 0.25mg
Dosing starts as low as 0.3mg then every 4 weeks increases to 0.6, 1.2, 2.4, 3.6, 4.8, maxing out at 6 in some trials. If you’re stacking it, you might be able to stick to the lower doses. All the trials so far are assessing how it does on its own. As you might expect, the cohorts that take the highest dose lose the most amount of weight but again, that’s with survo on its own.
 

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