Is NEXAPH FIRST with Hyperlinked Kits?

[dionysos]

Nexaph First Purchase - Retatrutide

Sep 19, 2024

I've just received my kit of 12mg Retatrutide from Shanghai Nexa Pharmaceuticals.
Ordered Monday morning at 8:19am and delivered in 3 days and 4 hours from their US depot.

EXCELLENT packaging and the KIT LABEL COMPLETE WITH JANO COA HYPERLINK !
Use your phone camera on the jpg - it WORKS QUICKLY.

This is a first from a Chinese Vendor in my experience and a trend that I hope and expect to develop quickly.

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[ItzJay]

They seem pretty promising. I've been trying to decide on a chinese vendor for some time. How would you compare them to QSC overall?

 

[Vicki]

I have an order coming from them today as well. Are you planning to send for testing?

 

[dionysos]

I have an order coming from them today as well. Are you planning to send for testing?

I have no plans to send for testing. There is a Janoshik COA HYPERLINKED to the kit label, and, I have no reason to doubt that it is genuine.

 

[dionysos]

They seem pretty promising. I've been trying to decide on a chinese vendor for some time. How would you compare them to QSC overall?

FIRST, Shanghai Nexa Pharma are a NEW VENDOR and have only a short history to indicate how they will perform in various circumstances. QSC have quite a long history in our forum and their performance both good and bad is well documented.

SECOND, NEXA's communications responsiveness, ecommerce website, their order handling process, and their shipping are all thoroughly up the mark for a US vendor! They far exceed QSC, indeed ALMOST ALL Chinese Vendors, in these areas.

THIRD, NEXA provide payment methods that are convenient and comfortable for US purchasers. In addition to Bitcoin there is Visa/MasterCard payment available on the US website. For China direct purchases you can use Bank Wire Transfers, Crypto, Zelle, and CashApp. QSC is much more limited in their payment options, and it has to be said, QSC are woeful in their mishandling and consequent temporary loss of Bank Wire Transfers.

FOUR, QSC has a FAR BIGGER CATALOG of peptides, steroids, raw powders etc etc etc. NEXA cannot compete in this regard. If you want a basic GLP1 they are fine. Need something just slightly more exotic and it will probably not be available from Nexa.

@ItzJay Depending upon your needs and which characteristics are most important to you it could be a toss-up between these two Vendors. I have used them both.

 

[ItzJay]

FIRST, Shanghai Nexa Pharma are a NEW VENDOR and have only a short history to indicate how they will perform in various circumstances. QSC have quite a long history in our forum and their performance both good and bad is well documented.

SECOND, NEXA's communications responsiveness, ecommerce website, their order handling process, and their shipping are all thoroughly up the mark for a US vendor! They far exceed QSC, indeed ALMOST ALL Chinese Vendors, in these areas.

THIRD, NEXA provide payment methods that are convenient and comfortable for US purchasers. In addition to Bitcoin there is Visa/MasterCard payment available on the US website. For China direct purchases you can use Bank Wire Transfers, Crypto, Zelle, and CashApp. QSC is much more limited in their payment options, and it has to be said, QSC are woeful in their mishandling and consequent temporary loss of Bank Wire Transfers.

FOUR, QSC has a FAR BIGGER CATALOG of peptides, steroids, raw powders etc etc etc. NEXA cannot compete in this regard. If you want a basic GLP1 they are fine. Need something just slightly more exotic and it will probably not be available from Nexa.

@ItzJay Depending upon your needs and which characteristics are most important to you it could be a toss-up between these two Vendors. I have used them both.

Appreciate the response. All those points are super helpful. I'll probably give NEXA a shot, since I'm just looking for some GLP1s and the convenience of a Visa/Mastercard payment is a huge plus.

 

[moonpies4misfits]

I was thinking about ordering some Cagri from them soon.

 

[Vicki]

It looks like the plastic packaging is the update. The ones from July are in the cardboard box.

 

[meowTime]

It looks like the plastic packaging is the update. The ones from July are in the cardboard box.

Mine came completely unlabelled. Ordered last week.

 

[dionysos]

Mine came completely unlabelled. Ordered last week.

@meowTime Could provide more detail please? Peptide? Batch number? COA testing date? Anything?

 

[Vicki]

I'm not too sure. This is my first purchase from them. I guess I'd assume the newer stuff will have better packaging just based on what I got today. But you can probably ask them to send a picture before you order too.

 

[meowTime]

@meowTime Could provide more detail please? Peptide? Batch number? COA testing date? Anything?

Cagri, yellow tops same as COA. Ordered direct from the website. Shipped via stamps.com according to UPS. There was absolutely no labeling anywhere in the box.

 

[dionysos]

I suppose what I was getting at is this: Nexa began labelling recently. Was your Cagrilintide before that time and typically packaged, or was it a batch made later and should have had the more informative labels? You could call and inquire - it would be useful for future purchasers to know the cutoff date.

 

[meowTime]

I suppose what I was getting at is this: Nexa began labelling recently. Was your Cagrilintide before that time and typically packaged, or was it a batch made later and should have had the more informative labels? You could call and inquire - it would be useful for future purchasers to know the cutoff date.

I did ask Cain about my vials - they're a weird size and don't fit in any peptide boxes. He said those were from an earlier run, so it's probably from before they began labeling.

 

[PepOhio]

Really impressed with the packaging that @dionysos showed.
Hopefully mine is just as good when it arrives.

QSC was out of one product when I ordered 2 days ago so I thought I would try these guys yesterday since the product I still needed was only going to be ~$50.

I started to order from them yesterday and since I don't use bitcoin I was going to use my credit card but I really wanted a buffer between my card number and a NEW peptide supplier...
Was going to use a virtual card but my Credit Union Credit Card would not alow google wallet to create one...so I went looking for other options.

Found privacy.com
Don't know if it is good or not but we will see.
It allowed me to create a virtual card tied to my checking account that you can set all kinds of limits on (Max Total, Single Use, Per Transaction, Single Business, Pause and ect). It uses Plaid for payment processing but no additional information is shared with them. With the free account you can create up to 12 virtual cards a month...I set a max limit on the virtual card of $200 (can be changed at any time) and after it processed I placed it on pause so nothing else can be billed to it until I enable it again. 🙂
So far really like it. They make their money on the normal credit card processing fees but they also charge an additional 3% if it is a foreign transaction which it cosidered this one to be...so cost an additional $1.73 for my purchase. Looks like everything worked fine...
Now just need to wait patiently for ANOTHER peptide package to arrive...🤩

I may have to join that Peptide Hoarder Support Group that so many of you are part of. 😉

 

[Cndmk]

I actually really enjoy this from a perspective of convenience, but this really highlights from a manufacturing perspective how much packaging influences quality perception.

Just think if vendors realized they could charge like 1.3-1.5X for a few color label printers and COA's with a simple QR code (which is just a text style).

I *hope* this becomes the NORM, and doesn't drive up prices to a negative point. I really don't see any difference from the conceptual design of Nexaph and QSC from a sourcing perspective, but for some reason Nexaph gets to charge 1.2-1.3X because they have better packaging and gets compared favorably to QSC.

Take notes @QSC/other vendors, and I'm saying this as someone who has worked in various levels of manufacturing for years, if your Quality Perception goes up to this level, and costs may increase like $1.00 per kit, then you can probably charge 10% more per kit. The best part is people would sing praises about your quality increase, even if quality has not increased at all.

I know some people might think this is a negative in terms of price, but if people feel more confident about their product they are purchasing, then they actually FEEL BETTER about their purchase even if it costs marginally more. People also tend to think the product IS better (like if you have food that looks higher quality on the package, you assume it takes better).

Our monkey brains are so easily manipulated 🤣

FYI, an abstract paper referencing some of these phenomena:

Does packaging influence taste and quality perceptions across varying consumer demographics?

This study investigates the important managerial issue of whether the packaging language of the Western consumer packaged-food (CPF) products should b…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Lilith]

Really impressed with the packaging that @dionysos showed.
Hopefully mine is just as good when it arrives.

QSC was out of one product when I ordered 2 days ago so I thought I would try these guys yesterday since the product I still needed was only going to be ~$50.

I started to order from them yesterday and since I don't use bitcoin I was going to use my credit card but I really wanted a buffer between my card number and a NEW peptide supplier...
Was going to use a virtual card but my Credit Union Credit Card would not alow google wallet to create one...so I went looking for other options.

Found privacy.com
Don't know if it is good or not but we will see.
It allowed me to create a virtual card tied to my checking account that you can set all kinds of limits on (Max Total, Single Use, Per Transaction, Single Business, Pause and ect). It uses Plaid for payment processing but no additional information is shared with them. With the free account you can create up to 12 virtual cards a month...I set a max limit on the virtual card of $200 (can be changed at any time) and after it processed I placed it on pause so nothing else can be billed to it until I enable it again. 🙂
So far really like it. They make their money on the normal credit card processing fees but they also charge an additional 3% if it is a foreign transaction which it cosidered this one to be...so cost an additional $1.73 for my purchase. Looks like everything worked fine...
Now just need to wait patiently for ANOTHER peptide package to arrive...🤩

I may have to join that Peptide Hoarder Support Group that so many of you are part of. 😉

Thanks for sharing your experience with them. I saw them when I was looking into virtual cards as well. I have not tried it yet.

 

[LumpySpace]

I actually really enjoy this from a perspective of convenience, but this really highlights from a manufacturing perspective how much packaging influences quality perception.

Just think if vendors realized they could charge like 1.3-1.5X for a few color label printers and COA's with a simple QR code (which is just a text style).

I *hope* this becomes the NORM, and doesn't drive up prices to a negative point. I really don't see any difference from the conceptual design of Nexaph and QSC from a sourcing perspective, but for some reason Nexaph gets to charge 1.2-1.3X because they have better packaging and gets compared favorably to QSC.

Take notes @QSC/other vendors, and I'm saying this as someone who has worked in various levels of manufacturing for years, if your Quality Perception goes up to this level, and costs may increase like $1.00 per kit, then you can probably charge 10% more per kit. The best part is people would sing praises about your quality increase, even if quality has not increased at all.

I know some people might think this is a negative in terms of price, but if people feel more confident about their product they are purchasing, then they actually FEEL BETTER about their purchase even if it costs marginally more. People also tend to think the product IS better (like if you have food that looks higher quality on the package, you assume it takes better).

Our monkey brains are so easily manipulated 🤣

FYI, an abstract paper referencing some of these phenomena:

Does packaging influence taste and quality perceptions across varying consumer demographics?

This study investigates the important managerial issue of whether the packaging language of the Western consumer packaged-food (CPF) products should b…

www.sciencedirect.com

Well, just look at their website: it is neat, easy to navigate, no weird graphics or poorly worded sentences. It was a pleasure to shop there. It is all about perception.

 

[PepOhio]

@Lilith
Did you find/use a different option or still investigating other options.
Based on a single day/transaction... 😂
I could see myself using this more and more instead of Paypal for other purchases besides my Peptide habit. 🙂
Well at least if they don't blacklist my account because of the websites I buy from... 😉

 

[Cndmk]

Well, just look at their website: it is neat, easy to navigate, no weird graphics or poorly worded sentences. It was a pleasure to shop there. It is all about perception.

Agreed the website plays a decent part, but word of mouth is the absolute BEST marketing in the world, and if one of these vendors that do group buys started making these small changes to their kits for "traceability", then you would see a step change in sales most likely vs. their competitors.

I know NOTHING about their lead times/days of inventory or any metrics like that for these companies, but if they are trying to get a standard sales timeframe for each batch, this might drastically push that curve in their favor.

 

[zpped]

I also like spc, I have a recent kit of mots from them though that was poorly crimped (a number of them were not tight). It didn't compromise the vial's vacuum though and they offered to replace. They also sent non-standard size vials, both too big and too small. Not a huge deal but it does go against that perception of professionalism.

 

[Topacus]

I received my order today and have to say it is impressive compared to what I have received from other vendors.

 

[zpped]

I received my order today and have to say it is impressive compared to what I have received from other vendors.

Inspect the crimping on those mots-c, I'm curious if they've improved after getting feedback. I was able to rotate the crimp/vial independently on at least 1 or 2 from each kit. (the vial was also slightly smaller than standard.

 

[wtgwd]

Well, I went ahead and ordered several kits last night. I liked the ease of the website, much like Amopure, but they had so many more products. I already got tracking this morning that the label was created and free shipping was nice. I am going to test at least a few of them to make sure the reports match fairly accurately and test sterility. I noticed the GHK-cu didn't have a COA on the website but we'll see what the packaging has on it when it arrives. Primarily I wanted BPC-157 for my dog, they say it helps tremendously with joint issues in pooches. Some reports say check for signs of cancer as it can exacerbate it, some say it's extremely safe. I'm taking her for a full check-up before I do anything major.

 

[dionysos]

Well, I went ahead and ordered several kits last night. I liked the ease of the website, much like Amopure, but they had so many more products. I already got tracking this morning that the label was created and free shipping was nice. I am going to test at least a few of them to make sure the reports match fairly accurately and test sterility. I noticed the GHK-cu didn't have a COA on the website but we'll see what the packaging has on it when it arrives. Primarily I wanted BPC-157 for my dog, they say it helps tremendously with joint issues in pooches. Some reports say check for signs of cancer as it can exacerbate it, some say it's extremely safe. I'm taking her for a full check-up before I do anything major.

I think your Research Dog will benefit from the peptide. My Research Alligator has experienced a notable reduction in chronic lower back pain since beginning the GLOW therapy. I attribute the reduced discomfort to inflammation reduction which is the likely cause of discomfort for your pooch.

 

[wtgwd]

I do feel rather like a hypocrite though. I wouldn't think of giving her treats or food from China but I'm going to give her injections.

 

[dionysos]

I do feel rather like a hypocrite though. I wouldn't think of giving her treats or food from China but I'm going to give her injections.

Canine GLOW therapy sounds like good parenting to me @wtgwd

A close friend's dog was restored from near death to hearty good health by accupuncture and herbal remedies from a Chinese-American veterinarian. Seeing this resurrection I had the impulse to book an appointment with that vet for myself!

I don't dismiss Chinese medicine lightly, and, I wish your puppy the kind of pain relief I'm getting from Chinese peptides 🙂

 

[MakeItaDouble]

I do feel rather like a hypocrite though. I wouldn't think of giving her treats or food from China but I'm going to give her injections.

I have said the same thing, including I inject MYSELF with them! Where did you find dosage info for dogs? One of my 3 Border Collies is 12. They see a holistic vet who uses Chinese medicine and acupuncture every couple of months, more if there is an issue. She is in high demand. I hope it works for your dog. 🐶

 

[Topacus]

Inspect the crimping on those mots-c, I'm curious if they've improved after getting feedback. I was able to rotate the crimp/vial independently on at least 1 or 2 from each kit. (the vial was also slightly smaller than standard.

zpped, I inspected mine and none of the tops rotate. But funny you said the vial was slightly smaller than standard, Because the vial I have is slightly larger than the standard to the point I can't use my case that I was using with these vials.

 

[wtgwd]

I have said the same thing, including I inject MYSELF with them! Where did you find dosage info for dogs? One of my 3 Border Collies is 12. They see a holistic vet who uses Chinese medicine and acupuncture every couple of months, more if there is an issue. She is in high demand. I hope it works for your dog. 🐶

I was watching the natural pet doctor videos. She recommended 250mcg then increasing up to 500mcg for over 75lb dogs which is where my lab is. I think 50-75lb stay at 250mcg. A few other holistic vets were in about the same range to higher so I was going to start on the low side. She was trying to sell tablet form but my canine is HORRIBLE about taking pills so I am doing the sq. I bought her a vial from Skye to start, then a Nexaph kit but I want to get that tested first.

 

[H1n1vrz89]

I really like this packaging aswell,
very clean and professional.
I ordered the Tirz 10mg ($160)
Shipped very quick, and the day of placing the order.
Do i have doubts about it,
No, i feel its a very legit source, that is shipped from the US, so if you need it quickly this is the place to go. seems they always ship from the warehouse in The US.
The website is Clean aswell,
easy and simple. nothing too fancy.

overall i see myself buying from them maybe more frequently in the future.

 

[MakeItaDouble]

I was watching the natural pet doctor videos. She recommended 250mcg then increasing up to 500mcg for over 75lb dogs which is where my lab is. I think 50-75lb stay at 250mcg. A few other holistic vets were in about the same range to higher so I was going to start on the low side. She was trying to sell tablet form but my canine is HORRIBLE about taking pills so I am doing the sq. I bought her a vial from Skye to start, then a Nexaph kit but I want to get that tested first.

Good to know. He had CCL surgery 3 years ago and recovered well but over-exertion can cause him to be pretty creaky in the evening. I will look into this, thanks!

 

[JohnnyGobbs]

Got mine. Fast, convenient, good prices.

 

[sf022754]

I bought these from one of their reps 🙂

 

[Pepsicle]

I bought these from one of their reps 🙂

What?? That’s is all shades of wrong. I just made my first order for T30. That like selling compounded without a license. They are calling for trouble just like Cantides. Everyone thinks they can be a good drug dealer but I'll prove them wrong.

 

[Vicki]

I bought these from one of their reps 🙂

I didn't see anything reconstituted on their website. Which rep did you buy from?

 

[sf022754]

I didn't see anything reconstituted on their website. Which rep did you buy from?

it was an email address and it was back in May/June. they sent me a prefilled cart price list, too.

 

[Vicki]

What?? That’s is all shades of wrong. I just made my first order for T30. That like selling compounded without a license. They are calling for trouble just like Cantides. Everyone thinks they can be a good drug dealer but I'll prove them wrong.

it was an email address and it was back in May/June. they sent me a prefilled cart price list, too.

I asked in their telegram and this is a scam vendor. You should order from their website

 

[sf022754]

I asked in their telegram and this is a scam vendor. You should order from their website

That's crazy it shipped from the same Hammond IN warehouse!! They didn't have that website when I ordered but I do order from the website now.

 

[goldngrl98]

Ordered Cagri Sunday, delivered today. Easy peasy. Nice packaging. Decent prices. No complaints from me. 😉

 

[tangoecho311]

Ordered around lunch 9/20. Received today 9/25! Order arrived well packaged, pucks intact, QR code works. Confirmed the report matches on Jano's website. Very excited to research this!

 

[morganite]

My experience with them is all positive! Reliable email answers, great price, quick shipping, good COA's...... what's not to like? I have bought from them several times with consistently outstandinding service!

 

[PurpleCatFur]

Just reconstituted some NEXAPH Tesa, TB500, and BPC-157 all pulled 2ml of BAC water with vacuum very quickly. All crystal clear instantly. All QR links match test and crimp/cap combination and batch number on Jano test when it was listed. I hope all future 2nd party tests list the batch number on the test, this does not seem to be consistent but still better than most.

 

[notyourrobot]

Inspect the crimping on those mots-c, I'm curious if they've improved after getting feedback. I was able to rotate the crimp/vial independently on at least 1 or 2 from each kit. (the vial was also slightly smaller than standard.

Hi zpped, may I ask if you used the vials that had the rotating crimps? I have a kit of t30 and two of the vials have loose, spinning crimps. I'm not sure if I should use them or toss them.

 

[chmuse]

Hi zpped, may I ask if you used the vials that had the rotating crimps? I have a kit of t30 and two of the vials have loose, spinning crimps. I'm not sure if I should use them or toss them.

If you contact Cain, he will most likely replace them for you.

This thread is old. You should look at more up to date threads to decide your personal comfort level.

 

[notyourrobot]

If you contact Cain, he will most likely replace them for you.

This thread is old. You should look at more up to date threads to decide your personal comfort level.

Alright, thanks. I only resurrected this thread in hopes of learning more. Didn't mean to make a faux pas.

Also, my issue is not with a Nexaph product. They've got enough bad press going on right now, don't need to add to that load. I was simply searching for situations similar to what I'm experiencing and this one came up. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. 🙏

 

[chmuse]

Alright, thanks. I only resurrected this thread in hopes of learning more. Didn't mean to make a faux pas.

Also, my issue is not with a Nexaph product. They've got enough bad press going on right now, don't need to add to that load. I was simply searching for situations similar to what I'm experiencing and this one came up. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. 🙏

I only mentioned looking further so as not to commit my own faux pas. I think you should contact Cain, personally, but a lot of people have strong opinions here.

 

[zpped]

Hi zpped, may I ask if you used the vials that had the rotating crimps? I have a kit of t30 and two of the vials have loose, spinning crimps. I'm not sure if I should use them or toss them.

If the vacuum seal is intact it theoretically is good to go. But I think my personal tolerance for risk is pretty high.

 

[notyourrobot]

If the vacuum seal is intact it theoretically is good to go. But I think my personal tolerance for risk is pretty high.

Thank you so much for your reply. I ended up reaching out to the vendor (not Nexaph, someone else) as chmuse suggested, and they are taking care of me. But I very much appreciate knowing your thoughts on this. That makes a lot of sense.