Is vendor real
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cheaperseeker
GLP-1 Enthusiast
They are not authenticated at all. However, if they have scammed anyone here, there is likely to be a post about it.
Your best bet is to click on the magnifying glass above and search for the vendor name to see what people are saying about them.
What makes you think it maybe a scam?
Your best bet is to click on the magnifying glass above and search for the vendor name to see what people are saying about them.
What makes you think it maybe a scam?
I do not know that, but I spent hours pinning down coas and ordering info and instructions for crypto with a person who seemed real but another supposed agent said was a scammer. The thing is that on TG if you ask for help on the chat they DM you, already bad, but on TG I cannot start chats, per the bot, it thinks I’m a scammer somehow.
Then the second person just stated they themselves were real, without really trying to prove it. And everyone’s info page is a mix of real and fake. This one maybe subbed 0 for o somewhere.
I would like an independent fact like seeing their phone number or someone having gotten something from them using a contact method they can share. After all, scamming is a real job and they can work together
This board doesn’t have much info, but the TG chat seems to have people who’ve ordered. Maybe they’re all fake who the hell knows? My TG acct is screwed up somehow so maybe I can’t use that adequately
cheaperseeker
GLP-1 Enthusiast
The thing about buying grey is, you can be scammed at anytime, even by reputable vendors. So, never spend more than you are willing to lose. And NEVER buy from someone who contacts you first. The best you can do is read as much as possible about any vendors you are considering.
Yup. Trying to do that, gotta have some data! Hoping more experienced and trusted folks here have specific info or suggestions..
The contact you first thing is a little ambiguous. I can msg any of the contact numbers posted, and then they contact me?
Got any tips where to look for even the basic things about WBS?
Or heck, has anyone ordered recently and will share a real contact that worked at that time at least?
CrownJewels
GLP-1 Novice
Everytime i contact any vendor i just use the number they provide here in the forums or in their own whatsapp and/or telegramm groups and/or discord groups.
The answer is then in the same chat you openend so that you cant get scammed. At least not by an impersonator.
I just write what i want to buy, share my adress and so on and tell them how i want to pay.
the rest is coming together by itself.
The answer is then in the same chat you openend so that you cant get scammed. At least not by an impersonator.
I just write what i want to buy, share my adress and so on and tell them how i want to pay.
the rest is coming together by itself.
In addition @Labcat ; There is a separate section with some vendors that are no longer supporting the site but I know for a fact are still "active". Its very much a buyer beware sort of deal.
My process has pretty much been look for the bigger names that also have been around a long time. And I've only made two purchases thus far. First was from Nexa and second from Amo/Bff/Binh.
Now that I'm looking at the 3 letter guys it gets a bit trickier. I tried to go through all the vendors by age on the forums just to sort of get a smaller list but the fact that you have to kind of go through the archive vendors as well makes it tricky. Then try to cross check that with experience here but also testing results on Jano (and to a lesser extent Finnrick).
But now I'm starting to think that w/ the 3 letter boys history isn't necessarily a great metric. Recent results matter more. So look at ones where there are large amounts of testing going on. One of our members has been activiely testing/setting up testing for JEEP with positive results.
My process has pretty much been look for the bigger names that also have been around a long time. And I've only made two purchases thus far. First was from Nexa and second from Amo/Bff/Binh.
Now that I'm looking at the 3 letter guys it gets a bit trickier. I tried to go through all the vendors by age on the forums just to sort of get a smaller list but the fact that you have to kind of go through the archive vendors as well makes it tricky. Then try to cross check that with experience here but also testing results on Jano (and to a lesser extent Finnrick).
But now I'm starting to think that w/ the 3 letter boys history isn't necessarily a great metric. Recent results matter more. So look at ones where there are large amounts of testing going on. One of our members has been activiely testing/setting up testing for JEEP with positive results.
“Vendors” who initiate contact are likely scammers. Reputable vendors will not contact you unsolicited.
Yep.
Wondering whether the listings on this site all have real numbers to begin with? Maybe not eh? How could anyone tell.
Yes. I want to warn that WBS links to their TG forum but their system to send requested COAs via DM - confuses this because it messes with this rule. (Like how my bank actually does text me, exactly like they never should). Or maybe that’s always spammers too and they allow it. Then they days replying anyway and someone else spoofed their account using the same pics and nearly the same spelling (extra dot that was supposedly a verified symbol, and o instead of 0 in account name, I noticed when I got suspicious today ) contacted me and answered a lot of questions.
Maybe it’s not everyone but my TG account cannot initiate DMs there, which contributes to the problem. The TG bot told me it’s to reduce scammers. What a waste of my time to have gone there to begin with. Lesson learned.
I use the info listed in the vendor connection on this site. I am not sure how hard it would be to get fake contacts in there but I bet it might be possible. I once made a vendor on discord from QYC respond to me on this site just to make sure they were legit.
I think the numbers might be real, if they haven’t somehow acquired some of those numbers in theoigh the business itself closing or letting go of the contact. But I think some of the linkouts to places like TG where they wait for you to ask for help on the chat and then are slow to respond and also say ‘I’ll DM you… can be spoofed by impersonators .
That’s a good idea to make them respond here, do they have verified usernames here
I also had a thought that if we share vendor wallet IDs that were legit, we can help each other verify them, that’s something the scammers are always eager to share
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Another thing I check for before I send Bitcoin is the actual Bitcoin address. Some of the vendors will publish their receiving crypto addresses. You could always ask on this site if the crypto address used to make a successful purchase is the same as the one you are about to use.
Yes! That’s what was thinking about also, if veterans of successful purchases would be able to share that info. Maybe even make a database we can all contribute to. That would be more reliable than contact info.
"That’s a good idea to make them respond here, do they have verified usernames here?"
I think the vendors have to pay to be on this site. I don't think they are vetted though. If there was bogus contacts on this site I think we would hear about it quickly. Any shenanigans from a vendor is made public by us users.
I think the vendors have to pay to be on this site. I don't think they are vetted though. If there was bogus contacts on this site I think we would hear about it quickly. Any shenanigans from a vendor is made public by us users.
So for us to figure out whether the person we are speaking to is the vendor they claim to be, the bottom line is where we are sending the payment
We can never be 100% sure. I made an order with a bogus vendor one time and lost about $400. After looking carefully at the contact info it was obvious they were fake. That $400 was a small price to pay for the huge amount of money I have saved ordering from China. You are smart to learn all you can before sending payment. I was not as diligent.
I was only lucky, everything I learned did not prevent me from completely believing it. I was sitting there doing this with the spouse, too (who even now thinks I’m behaving antisocially rudely to the real vendor) Only the fact that crypto has a hold time even though I paid for stablecoin out of a debit card, gave me more time to think about it and notice a little tiny dot that was different between the name/avatar of the person I was talking to vs the person I was first trying to get to talk to me. But I’m pretty sure that more people are still pretending to be the actual wbs and continue the scam. And what may be the real people of wbs has not really differentiated themselves yet. Why would they be any more up to date on scamming techniques than anyone else, which are a mix of social and technical savvy. And in the end, we don’t know who or what any of these people are.
byefatlicia
GLP-1 Enthusiast
You're right @Labcat. This whole business of them DMing COAs is really risky and annoying. Don't risk $400 or more to save $10 on a kit from one of these runaround operations. Stick to vendors who publish their COA links to Jano on here. And also their prices.Then reach out to them using the numbers and contact info here. Don't respond to friend requests or answer anyone on TG or Discord that you haven't first established a trusted communication with. Once you have a good method to communicate, then they can send you updated price lists or COAs.
After all this I wonder are the scammers any more evil than the pharmaceutical companies letting obese people die of strokes and heart attacks because they can't afford $1500 a month when their insurance drops them.
Small evil vs large scale, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, the private equity corporations that have taken over as healthcare employers, the lawmakers, legal enforcers, and others in government that play along and allow these clearly detrimental policies to propagate…
Yes, this is solid advice.
And really, we should ve using the wallet numbers to identify along ourselves the legit businesses.
The vendors don’t put a lot of effort into helping keep things clean and clear either. It’s not something that affects them. Their response to personal communication can be slow, it’s easier to have a chat group that has info and comments so people can talk themselves into things.
I’ve wondered if scammers really impinge the vendors’ profits at all really. If one didn’t have compunctions, and was running a grey business, it would honestly be the easiest thing to be a scammer on the side too. Does it even harm the business if one scams one’s own business?? It might make the actual business seem even more desirable lol.
Chucky
GLP-1 Apprentice
Rule of thumb, I go by, if a vendor reaches out to me first, I'm automatically suspicious. I've not had that here yet, but when I've commented on a TikTok video which is peptide related, you get tagged and DM'd out the ying yang.
