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Hi, I was reading this forum for some time, but didn't register account until today, as I didn't originally plan to post anything, but now I have warning about some supplier and going thru order from another one, pretty new supplier with no reviews.
So, I would like to share with you my experiences here.
 
Hi, I was reading this forum for some time, but didn't register account until today, as I didn't originally plan to post anything, but now I have warning about some supplier and going thru order from another one, pretty new supplier with no reviews.
So, I would like to share with you my experiences here.
Welcome, and do please share your experiences!
 
I will! That's the reason I register account because I think forum members here should helping each other to protect against scammers and find a good reliable vendors. Myself, I am watching posts about orders from Fiona, as she gave me so far the best prices for Sema, but her responses are very slow, it takes days to get answer from her and reviews so far not so good too. So please, other members keep sharing your experiences. Thanks a lot, great community here.
 
I will! That's the reason I register account because I think forum members here should helping each other to protect against scammers and find a good reliable vendors. Myself, I am watching posts about orders from Fiona, as she gave me so far the best prices for Sema, but her responses are very slow, it takes days to get answer from her and reviews so far not so good too. So please, other members keep sharing your experiences. Thanks a lot, great community here.
Honestly, lots of warnings on here about buying based on best price. You might want to buy based on best reviews, COA's, and service...

I just ordered from Aminos research because I'm new and it seemed like the best option.. not to mention the B1G1 sale currently being offered...

But hope to get in on a group buy from QSC in a few months. Not trying to push vendors on you, just saying all my research and time spent in this forum has led me down this path. You are certainly free to buy from whomever you want.

Lots of good info in here!
 
Thanks Chef, I am very glad for any word of advice and shared experience, as are other members here I guess. With the QSC - did you get in touch with someone from there already, or you just plan for the future? If yes, can you share contact?
I did go with SRY because they publish COA (but I understand there is no batch number or any other ID) and their communication was very fast and smooth and their shipping fees lower compared to others, not the lowest price for the product itself however, but on the low side.
Another vendor im in touch is Rachel from heibei lianfu, anyone can share their experiences with them?
 
btw. my parcel is "out for delivery" exactly 1 week after payment thru Alibaba (instant local bank transfer)
 
Thanks Chef, I am very glad for any word of advice and shared experience, as are other members here I guess. With the QSC - did you get in touch with someone from there already, or you just plan for the future? If yes, can you share contact?
I did go with SRY because they publish COA (but I understand there is no batch number or any other ID) and their communication was very fast and smooth and their shipping fees lower compared to others, not the lowest price for the product itself however, but on the low side.
Another vendor im in touch is Rachel from heibei lianfu, anyone can share their experiences with them?
QSC has quite a few posts here and posted their email, Whatsapp #, price lists, US warehouse inventory, promotions, etc Their # changed recently, so read threads to the end. Terry seems to be the "boss" and has 3-4 agents to handle the orders. Several members, including the founder/admin knows Terry and several members have ordered from QSC... They also have a discord server and posted an invite link to that. I have not personally been in touch or ordered, but just from everything I've read and the other members I've talked to, QSC seems the way to go.

As for Sry, there is a very suspicious thread where like 4 new members came in and made 1 post saying Sry is great, then the admin chimed in. You could tell the posts were all made by someone(s) who have English as a second language, and if you look through new member intro's, you'll see where Lucy sniped a lot of them, specifically the ones who said they don't know where to start. It all just seems out of the ordinary, desperate, and suspicious. Anyone can post a COA, there are plenty of issues with COA's being altered, etc.

I'm a bit over the top suspicious of everything, so don't base anything on what I say, read for yourself. The whole idea here is that you do due diligence in your research, don't buy based on price, because they take PayPal/credit card, or any number of other reasons that don't add up to quality/safe/pure peptides with a valid COA. Chromate COA's seem to be questionable, with Janoshik and MZ labs being the (highly) preferred testing options.

This is all based on my research and my understanding of what I've read, mostly here in this forum but also from talking to people on FB, Reddit, discord, peppys and another forum, as well as members here.

I'm only a couple weeks into my research, so I'm definitely not experienced. I am highly skeptical and a bit OCD. So far, most of the conclusions I've drawn line up with others, but there are things I find highly concerning that others seem to brush off, so I don't want to lead you astray.... Look through the threads in the vendors section, testing sections, do some keyword searches, etc
 
I just received the parcel from SRY, and yes I am aware of some issues around them (I read all the posts), their COA which I verified its theirs - verification on janoshik website and later ask them send me an email from the address which was written on the report, but yes there is no batch number, so they can publish only the best result they get. I just went with my "gut feeling" that its just a new vendor trying very hard to get new customers. We will see soon, my testing order was in fact a "micro group buy" 😉 vials will be shared among a few people and tested only by comparing to "nocebo", simply we will see our results after 1-2months of using it. In the meantime I hope other people will come out with their experiences and perhaps fresh independent tests on pepys or somewhere will show up.

with the contacts here in forum, it could be organized in a better way, for example make some sticky thread with latest updates on vendors, their contacts, latest COAs, reviews ... its not easy to read thru multiple threads and try to find where is the latest and best contact. For new users there is actually a lot of text to read thru, but thanks Chef for the tip.

I follow pepys and watching some discords too, but its not so straightforward to simply identify "the best" vendor and find the latest contact, I am maybe too old school but I really like straight-to-the-point sticky threads and vendor whitelist/blacklist as for example dredd is using, if someone of you know that forum

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QSC has quite a few posts here and posted their email, Whatsapp #, price lists, US warehouse inventory, promotions, etc Their # changed recently, so read threads to the end. Terry seems to be the "boss" and has 3-4 agents to handle the orders. Several members, including the founder/admin knows Terry and several members have ordered from QSC...
sorry I just realized Tracy was the first I contacted and got answer from "Irene", its really confusing so many vendors with so many similar names etc. ... However they told me they don't have stock of Sema 5mg atm. which was the product I was looking for as a 1st order from new suppliers (new to me) and was also quoted shipping fees USD65 to Malaysia only! its something what I personally feel like a cheating when I know the shipping fee is in fact max. USD5
But since they are s trusted and having consistent test results I will try negotiate testing order from them, once got stock. Maybe I try get direct contact Tracy, since 1) it sounds weird China warehouse dont have stock and 2) USD65 shipping to Malaysia is totally crazy some considered their product prices are high already too
As I said, its not easy to navigate and find a "best" vendor
 
with the contacts here in forum, it could be organized in a better way, for example make some sticky thread with latest updates on vendors, their contacts, latest COAs, reviews ... ...its not easy to navigate and find a "best" vendor
@milos Thank you for your very generous sharing of your experience with peptide suppliers.
Reporting of vendor performance is the biggest addition of value in this forum.

I agree with your comments about needing a better, more centralized and compact way to track vendor performance data; I've made similar suggestions myself.

HOW to do it is the question milos! What format, what forum, what data? Who can update it? Who edits, compiles, publishes it?
 
HOW to do it is the question milos! What format, what forum, what data? Who can update it? Who edits, compiles, publishes it?
I am well aware it must be done by a trusted independent member only (admin) and it involves some work and time which maybe admin doesn't have. Create sticky post on the front page "vendors list" and list there every active or discussed vendor here, provide basic info, background, latest contact details as email, phone number, discord etc. followed by pricelists and followed by latest COAs links or just short text details; and maybe add some star rating based on users input - but its the most difficult and complicated part and at the same time admin clearly stated that he doesn't wants to endorse any vendor, which I fully understand and respect... but at least keep short list with complete vendors list and their latest contact details + some blacklist for proven scammers can be acceptable. I think vendors will not change their contact everyday, so maybe once per week update - it should not take much time. Right now letting them themself posting under their own thread everyday seems almost like a spam and hard to read thru so many posts for new users
 
Completely agree. May I DM you?
of course can!
maybe we can help admin compile the list, together with input from vendors themself providing latest info (contact + price list) and just pass it to the admin to verify that there is no fake info etc. and post it into the special thread
but its something only admin can decide, if wants to have a "vendor info list" or how to call it (english is obviously not my native language), we as new members are not and can not be trusted
 
btw. we should also create some standard / unique code names for each vendor so no more confusion between similar names
@milos I created a poll using the actual company names of all vendors I could find that visit the forum. Also requested names of those people were using that were not on my list

@Ms_Ery
I don’t think it wise to use an assigned code for vendors. There are already multiple names for each of them.

Have you voted yet?
 
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It would be great if those names (or their abbreviations) could be four letters and that way we can use them in the search engine.
I had the same thought and asked Zippy about this... It's the same issue on ecig forums.

As a workaround, try searching, for example, Sry* or QSC*

Or, if there was something specific you saw and are looking for again from a member, try going to their profile and look under recent activity to see their posts.
 
btw. we should also create some standard / unique code names for each vendor so no more confusion between similar names
I "believe" the issue lies in them using their region at the beginning of their name. I saw a post about this somewhere.

Also, this unique name probably would need to be coordinated and agreed upon across many platforms/sites to have any real meaning/help...

But I hear you and totally agree that it's difficult, time consuming, and would be easier to have a "trusted/not trusted list. Ive lost track of the hours spent, and most people don't have 20-30 hours a week to put into it.

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the admins perspective is that everyone should do their own research and not rely on a list. Vendors reputations vary and change over time, so being responsible for giving bad advice serms to be a concern.

I don't think this forum is much more than a year old, and may be entirely run/moderated by one person. Having a few trusted moderators might help. Or maybe put certain people in charge of certain sections.. I dunno.. Im not exactly an expert in forum administration and am new to all of this, but try to share what Ive learned.... Even though my understanding might be wrong or skewed.

need to look for this poll
 
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So I finally had some extra free time and did more reading on peppys.io - and its true that almost all info can be found there, it just takes a really very long time to get thru reading so many posts. I even found the vendors spreadsheet somebody posted there, but that one is so extensive that is also difficult to navigate, but still its very helpful - maybe that's all we need, just keep updating the file. If someone is interested in the spreadsheet and cant find it, let me know a try to find a link and post it here - if its allowed.
Anyway what I found there was really just again even more confusion, as for example QSR (before they look promising for me) is not rated there very highly and at the same time they rate some totally new vendors to me as good. So more I read its just become more and more complicated to pre-select some "trusted" vendors.
with the code names /abbreviations - true they are out there already, it could be just good write a list of a full company name and assign the abbreviation(s) and aliases, so new members can quickly and easily find out about who the discussion is
 
btw. I personally after spend so much time reading I dont feel the need for all this anymore, its just an idea from experiences of a new user, that if these "tools" exists here, it could make life much easier for them and save a lot of time. Because doing own research and do lot of reading is of course a good thing, but many of us have family and working so not everyone can afford to spend 20 hours reading just to get "a basic orientation"
 
But I hear you and totally agree that it's difficult, time consuming, and would be easier to have a "trusted/not trusted list. Ive lost track of the hours spent, and most people don't have 20-30 hours a week to put into it.
its exactly what im trying to say with my broken english 😉
 
Yeah, found it and voted a cpl hours ago, had to go get my mom from the airport.

Is the attached spreadsheet the one you are referring to?

If so, one of the members here made that. It's been passed all over the place.


its exactly what im trying to say with my broken english 😉
😂 My remarks about the broken English posts were not meant as an insult, but to show that they all came from the same place/person.

And you're doing better than people I know who only speak English!

I completely agree with everything you said. I spent at least 50 hours reading, talking to people, and researching vendors. In that time, I met someone who has helped A LOT
and he led me here.

I'm new to all of this and it was only 3 weeks ago that I learned peptides were an option.
 

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So I finally had some extra free time and did more reading on peppys.io - and its true that almost all info can be found there, it just takes a really very long time to get thru reading so many posts. I even found the vendors spreadsheet somebody posted there, but that one is so extensive that is also difficult to navigate, but still its very helpful - maybe that's all we need, just keep updating the file. If someone is interested in the spreadsheet and cant find it, let me know a try to find a link and post it here - if its allowed.
Anyway what I found there was really just again even more confusion, as for example QSR (before they look promising for me) is not rated there very highly and at the same time they rate some totally new vendors to me as good. So more I read its just become more and more complicated to pre-select some "trusted" vendors.
with the code names /abbreviations - true they are out there already, it could be just good write a list of a full company name and assign the abbreviation(s) and aliases, so new members can quickly and easily find out about who the discussion is
Nothing from Peppys is allowed to be posted here or anywhere for that matter. Just a heads up.
 
I'm new to all of this and it was only 3 weeks ago that I learned peptides were an option.
this community is really great and so much helpful, its without a question!
The PDF you posted is different, but I like it much more, its something very similar to my idea how it should looks like, thanks a lot for sharing!
The spreadsheet i was referring to has filename "Peptides for Research Spreadsheet.xlsx" with size around 1.8mb, it contains sections of active and not active vendors, info from which country they operate, if they pass janoshik tests, comments from users etc. Actually I think its a good idea to keep spreadsheet on google drive (or similar place) and keep it updated for everyone to see.
btw. with the english I was just kidding ... I know what you mean, even myself I can recognize if someone acting as different person in forum, using the same language style, repeating same words etc. Its is so obvious sometimes
 
I went thru the vendor spreadsheet from peppys and found these 3 companies with positive comments:

Amopeptide
Nantong Guangyuan Chemical
Shanghai Sigma Audley

Anyone any experiences with these?

latest test results collected so far from peppys:
Amopeptide: tirz30 - 26, tirz 5 - 4.5, sema 5 - 4.3, tirz30 - 30+
Nantong Guangyuan Chemical: ??? (in their spreadsheet its listed as a good source, but I dont see any test results there)
Shanghai Sigma Audley: tirz10 - 8.7

btw. QSC most latest results there look good, but in their spreadsheet is a warning about them, not sure if its some past issue with them only or why...
 
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Anyway, to update you about my testing order of 5mg Sema kit from SRY, its 24h since I become a lab rat with 0.25mg (or more like 0.22mg according to the latest independent janoshik COA) and I can say I feel something, no placebo for sure, I did not expect anything at this dose, but so far I just have a constant feeling of full stomach. I didnt eat anything yet today, the last meal I had was yesterday night, eating 1 durian (yes that disgusting, smelly SEA fruit) and until now its like still not fully digested (if you know durian you will know what I mean, you can feel it in your stomach) - I did not expect this feeling at all, I was prepared for nausea and gastric.
Another lab rat took it just today and others will follow in comming days, so will have some more subjective feedback soon.
So far im happy with this vendor, however I hope their tests will improve with next batches, im aware of their latest independent Reta COA come back with catastrophic results (50% underfilled).
 
Very curious about the sample from Sry, do please keep us
... The spreadsheet i was referring to has filename "Peptides for Research Spreadsheet.xlsx" with size around 1.8mb, it contains sections of active and not active vendors, info from which country they operate...
@milos
Do you still have access to the spreadsheet you referred to: Peptides for Research Spreadsheet.xls ?
I'd love to have a copy if you do, milos!
 
This is what milos sent me. It is a zip file... I never fired up my PC to open it.. cant unzip on my phone.
I was told we cant post it here, but on peppys its also just linked to a file on google drive which is open to public, so I really don't see reason why it couldn't be shared here
 
I was told we cant post it here, but on peppys its also just linked to a file on google drive which is open to public, so I really don't see reason why it couldn't be shared here
Yeah, didn't realize it was from the place we can't mention, I'll fix that..
 
I was told we cant post it here, but on peppys its also just linked to a file on google drive which is open to public, so I really don't see reason why it couldn't be shared here
Someone posted it on Reddit yesterday so admin has changed the link. It’s for the Peppys community. You can all join Peppys to view it there for your own use. But you are not supposed to share it.
 
it was actually shared on google drive with permission to view for "public", but yeah, better follow the rules
 
just short update, day 4 and appetite is back again, I did get excited too early that low dose can work miracles, will wait until day 7 and follow with another 0.25mg after that will increase to 0.5mg
However its interesting that my weight is down 0.7kg (1.5lb) since I had started, I know so fast weight loss is impossible and its just really a water loss only, but yeah its good to see *something is going on*
can someone share experience, when starting with Sema how long and at what dosage there were some results? and on what dosage side effects start (im worried about the vomiting and nausea)
 
Update: 2 days after 2nd low starting dose of Sema (0.25mg); effects are very subtle but are there.
Interesting is that on scale my weight slowly but steadily keeps going down even on such a low dose, so far -1.1kg (-2.4lb) - again im aware its impossible to be a real weight loss, its most likely just a water loss, but yeah something is going on.
So far happy with SRY - keeps follow up with me and keeps me updated (about new batch tests from janoshik coming out soon etc.)
 
QSC has quite a few posts here and posted their email, Whatsapp #, price lists, US warehouse inventory, promotions, etc Their # changed recently, so read threads to the end. Terry seems to be the "boss" and has 3-4 agents to handle the orders. Several members, including the founder/admin knows Terry and several members have ordered from QSC... They also have a discord server and posted an invite link to that. I have not personally been in touch or ordered, but just from everything I've read and the other members I've talked to, QSC seems the way to go.

As for Sry, there is a very suspicious thread where like 4 new members came in and made 1 post saying Sry is great, then the admin chimed in. You could tell the posts were all made by someone(s) who have English as a second language, and if you look through new member intro's, you'll see where Lucy sniped a lot of them, specifically the ones who said they don't know where to start. It all just seems out of the ordinary, desperate, and suspicious. Anyone can post a COA, there are plenty of issues with COA's being altered, etc.

I'm a bit over the top suspicious of everything, so don't base anything on what I say, read for yourself. The whole idea here is that you do due diligence in your research, don't buy based on price, because they take PayPal/credit card, or any number of other reasons that don't add up to quality/safe/pure peptides with a valid COA. Chromate COA's seem to be questionable, with Janoshik and MZ labs being the (highly) preferred testing options.

This is all based on my research and my understanding of what I've read, mostly here in this forum but also from talking to people on FB, Reddit, discord, peppys and another forum, as well as members here.

I'm only a couple weeks into my research, so I'm definitely not experienced. I am highly skeptical and a bit OCD. So far, most of the conclusions I've drawn line up with others, but there are things I find highly concerning that others seem to brush off, so I don't want to lead you astray.... Look through the threads in the vendors section, testing sections, do some keyword searches, etc
Hello, friend. Is my post very suspicious? I am just publishing the true situation of our laboratory normally, and every word I say is true. We have third-party laboratory test reports that are true, but new test reports that have not been released are also true. There are many sellers in China, and you can choose the sellers you like and trust to buy the products you want. You can also recommend others to buy, and these are your legal rights. But please don't slander us without evidence, can you? You said I sniped someone, may I ask who I sniped? Who did I deceive? My god!!!!
 
Hello, friend. Is my post very suspicious? I am just publishing the true situation of our laboratory normally, and every word I say is true. We have third-party laboratory test reports that are true, but new test reports that have not been released are also true. There are many sellers in China, and you can choose the sellers you like and trust to buy the products you want. You can also recommend others to buy, and these are your legal rights. But please don't slander us without evidence, can you? You said I sniped someone, may I ask who I sniped? Who did I deceive? My god!!!!
There were 4-5 new member posts where you jumped right on them the instant they joined, trying to make a sale before they had a chance to decide for themselves and look things over. They all stated they were new to this, so before they had a chance to learn anything and talk to people, you were shoving yourself down their throats.

And there was another thread where there were 4 or 5 new members who joined and and within minutes, the only post they made was in support of you, when we all know that no one here had even received a sample from you yet.

My bad on the last one, I went back to make sure I had the right vendor, there are so many, and I see it was a different vendor who this comment refers to.

It was Rachel who had the suspicious posts supporting her, and because she was mentioned in the same post as you, I made the mistake of thinking Rachel was from SRY...

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But I have to say that you are by far the most "aggressive" vendor on here. Posting the same thing numerous times and jumping on new members the minute they join. Maybe tone it down a bit, give your samples a chance to be tested and rely on recommendations from members who are testing them, rather than insisting that everyone blindly trust you.

You've come out with several new batches and testing to support them, so it seems like you are selling product in other places, but your posts come across as "desperate for a sale", at least to me they do.

Just because there aren't a lot of posts supporting you or a lot of people buying from you in this particular forum, doesn't mean people aren't watching and following your comments.

Also maybe consider batch numbers on the vials that can be traced back to batch numbers on the tests. This is one of the things that many people look for.
 
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Also maybe consider batch numbers on the vials that can be traced back to batch numbers on the tests. This is one of the
@SRY Lab Lucy

This shows some organization on your part.

If you label each vial (or even each kit) with a batch number, then put that batch number on the Jano test, buyers can then verify what's in their hand matches the test. Otherwise, how do we know that a vendor didn't test one batch and then sell us vials from another batch? Trust is earned, not freely given, especially in this market that seems to be riddled with scams, liars, and cheats.

What might benefit you is to win over a loud mouth skeptic, earn his trust, and his recommendation.
 
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There were 4-5 new member posts where you jumped right on them the instant they joined, trying to make a sale before they had a chance to decide for themselves and look things over. They all stated they were new to this, so before they had a chance to learn anything and talk to people, you were shoving yourself down their throats.

And there was another thread where there were 4 or 5 new members who joined and and within minutes, the only post they made was in support of you, when we all know that no one here had even received a sample from you yet.

My bad on the last one, I went back to make sure I had the right vendor, there are so many, and I see it was a different vendor who this comment refers to.

It was Rachel who had the suspicious posts supporting her, and because she was mentioned in the same post as you, I made the mistake of thinking Rachel was from SRY...

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But I have to say that you are by far the most "aggressive" vendor on here. Posting the same thing numerous times and jumping on new members the minute they join. Maybe tone it down a bit, give your samples a chance to be tested and rely on recommendations from members who are testing them, rather than insisting that everyone blindly trust you.

You've come out with several new batches and testing to support them, so it seems like you are selling product in other places, but your posts come across as "desperate for a sale", at least to me they do.

Just because there aren't a lot of posts supporting you or a lot of people buying from you in this particular forum, doesn't mean people aren't watching and following your comments.

Also maybe consider batch numbers on the vials that can be traced back to batch numbers on the tests. This is one of the things that many people look for.
You have typed so many words, it seems that what you said is also very reasonable. You are a salesperson who knows a lot about peptide products! Do you have any evidence that I attacked new members? I only had a private chat with one member from beginning to end, and she was not a new member,because we chatted with each other under a post, so I wanted to talk to him privately, but I didn't know that you Westerners didn't like this way of chatting. He complained about me. After the forum officer told me, I didn't talk to any member in private! Can't I like other members? Can't I sell my own products? You haven't bought or used my products to slander my products and praise other products for their good. Is this what a normal person should do? We meet the needs of every customer in Jinli, strive to make our own products, and treat every customer attentively! But it seems that it has nothing to do with you!Anyway, I still want to thank you for being so attentive to our SRY, whether it's slander or teaching, thank you!
 
You have typed so many words, it seems that what you said is also very reasonable. You are a salesperson who knows a lot about peptide products! Do you have any evidence that I attacked new members? I only had a private chat with one member from beginning to end, and she was not a new member,because we chatted with each other under a post, so I wanted to talk to him privately, but I didn't know that you Westerners didn't like this way of chatting. He complained about me. After the forum officer told me, I didn't talk to any member in private! Can't I like other members? Can't I sell my own products? You haven't bought or used my products to slander my products and praise other products for their good. Is this what a normal person should do? We meet the needs of every customer in Jinli, strive to make our own products, and treat every customer attentively! But it seems that it has nothing to do with you!Anyway, I still want to thank you for being so attentive to our SRY, whether it's slander or teaching, thank you!
Dear friend, I'm honestly not sure if it's the language barrier or if you need some Prozac to slow down that rollercoaster. But you're right about one thing, I most definitely won't have anything to do with you. Thank you sweetie for letting everyone know I'm not the only one to complain about you.. point made. Best of luck, dear friend.
 
Also maybe consider batch numbers on the vials that can be traced back to batch numbers on the tests. This is one of the things that many people look for.
I totally agree on this, test without batch number or at least some kind of ID (color of cap or something) will not guarantee we get the same product as the one shown on the test result. Example is @Sheldor and his issue with Ret right now - he doesn't know if his product is from the bad batch or the new one.
 
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Anyway, to balance comments here, I would like add little bit of support for SRY again (as negative comments are already well managed by Chef 😉 ) What I like about them, that they publish tests even when they show its 10% underfill or so, my impression from that is they are open about their results so gain my trust... for me 10% less is OK if their price is low and order to delivery time is very fast and smooth process etc. So I just hope they will continue trying to improve and hopefully next batch will be already on spot or even little bit overfill.
 
Anyway, to balance comments here, I would like add little bit of support for SRY again (as negative comments are already well managed by Chef 😉 ) What I like about them, that they publish tests even when they show its 10% underfill or so, my impression from that is they are open about their results so gain my trust... for me 10% less is OK if their price is low and order to delivery time is very fast and smooth process etc. So I just hope they will continue trying to improve and hopefully next batch will be already on spot or even little bit overfill.
Thank you very much for your support and trust. Although there were some mistakes, they did not result in being sentenced to death. No matter what the reason is for the decrease in dosage, we will accept this reality. Although some of these products have slightly lower doses and are not particularly excellent, they are still considered qualified and within a reasonable range. In addition, our purity is really awesome, and we hope to be recognized by everyone. We will also make continuous efforts to improve the problem of insufficient dose of products. I also sincerely hope that our product can help every user who uses it! Thank you, Brooke Chef, thank you, Milos!
 

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