LIPO-C with NAD+

GimmeABreak said:
I may give it a try if ALL of the crystals are gone. My current vial of Pegasus (with no crystals) that I first punctured about two weeks ago STINKS, A little dribble came out of the stopper when I was drawing a dose this morning and I have been smelling it all day. I think it is headed for the trash.

I stil have some Biboost+ left and ordered a vial of Shred today. I will need to wait to see when the Shred is scheduled to arrive and then decide if I pin the Bioboost, Crystal Pegasus or funky stanky Pegasus.
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Shred? Did I miss a source? What is that?
 
GimmeABreak said:
I may give it a try if ALL of the crystals are gone. My current vial of Pegasus (with no crystals) that I first punctured about two weeks ago STINKS, A little dribble came out of the stopper when I was drawing a dose this morning and I have been smelling it all day. I think it is headed for the trash.

I stil have some Biboost+ left and ordered a vial of Shred today. I will need to wait to see when the Shred is scheduled to arrive and then decide if I pin the Bioboost, Crystal Pegasus or funky stanky Pegasus.
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Does the Pegasus have Glutathione in it? That smells like sulfur and it is normal.
 
GimmeABreak said:
I didn't understand the difference so I google'd it:

TLDR: Cyano B12 is the cheap stuff and Methyl B12 is good

Enter Google AI:
  • Production: CyanoB12 is synthetic, while methylB12 is naturally occurring.
  • Body use: The body can convert synthetic forms of vitamin B12 into natural ones. After absorption, the methyl group is removed from methylB12, and the body must re-form it to make it usable.
  • Supplements: CyanoB12 is more commonly used in supplements because it's less expensive than other forms of vitamin B12.
  • Foods: MethylB12 is found in foods like fish, meat, eggs, and milk
  • Health benefits: Both forms of vitamin B12 can help with conditions like B12 deficiency, pernicious anemia, ALS, and neuropathic pain. MethylB12 may also help with sleep quality and circadian rhythm.
    Bioavailability: Some research suggests that methylB12 is more bioavailable than cyanoB12, while other research suggests that there's no difference in absorption or bioavailability between the two forms.


    ​

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Cyanocobalamin is synthesized with and contains small amounts of cyanide. It is supposed to be safe but I try not to temp fate too often.
 
AndyPanda said:
Cyanocobalamin is synthesized with and contains small amounts of cyanide. It is supposed to be safe but I try not to temp fate too often.
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Apparently, Google's AI chose to leave this little tidbit out. Thanks for being smarter than the AI!
 
So what exactly does the crystallization mean? And what can happen if you inject with it? My main concern was the smell and why i had liquid on the stopper when I popped the cap. Didn't even think to look for crystals until I read on here
 
I sent a message to Tracy with the ingredient list to see if they would consider making the blend, they seem open to adding new stuff in the past but not sure about blends. May be worth reaching out to favorite suppliers to see if they will do the same
 
GimmeABreak said:
Update on the crystallized Pegasus Lypo-C.

I warmed up one of my vials by putting it the pocket of my sweats for a few hours this afternoon and the crystals are almost all dissolved.

I'll bet you could put it in 100-110 degree water (not submerged) and make it usable (if you dare).

Sous-vide LipoC anyone?
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Update - left the vial at room temp last night and the crystals are back. Into the trash it goes.

I asked Kimera to replace when back in stock. They said it will probably be 2-3 weeks.
 
GimmeABreak said:
Update - left the vial at room temp last night and the crystals are back. Into the trash it goes.

I asked Kimera to replace when back in stock. They said it will probably be 2-3 weeks.
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I saw on another board that someone had crystallization about 2 months ago. I guess this has been an ongoing problem. I wonder if it is the NAD+ as I have been using some form of Lipo-C or MIC-B12 for years and have never seen that before...
 
yelloeyes said:
I found another vendor with NAD.. ordering tomorrow so I will let you know when I get it. I asked about crystals and they had no idea what I was talking about.
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I talked to a vendor and they are going to play with their Lipo C and add NAD + and Lidocaine!!!! Keeping fingers crossed! And eyes. And toes. And legs 🤣
 
Boosey77 said:
I talked to a vendor and they are going to play with their Lipo C and add NAD + and Lidocaine!!!! Keeping fingers crossed! And eyes. And toes. And legs 🤣
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I asked Kimera as well... hopefully we will get one of them...
 
GimmeABreak said:
Damn it Bobby!

Just checked the two vials I received about a week ago and both have crystals. The vial I am currently using is fine (but does smell awful and has a mild burn for several hours after inj).
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Checked mine with a flashlight. Full of crystals. Sent them an email but haven't heard anything back yet. 🥹
 
yelloeyes said:
I paid Kimera Venmo. Cool. If you say it was okay that is what I will do. 😉
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I used the same max redemption payment as well, tbh it seemed sketchy to me but they had good reviews on other sites so I decided to trust it
 
Max Redemption was actually really easy. They gave me referral link if I am allowed to post it:

modernaminos.com

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Dahlbaby said:
Whomever here decides to try CARVED, please let us know how it is. I threw my Pegasus away, and I’ll be continuing to stick with my BioBoost+ and my separate NAD+ Injections for now.
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Mine is at the shipping distribution center - I’ll definitely let everyone know. I know a couple of us ordered - it’ll be good to see how we all like it. Or not like it 🤣
 
GimmeABreak said:
My RS likes it and still have about 2 vials left, I switched my RS over to the Pegasus last week because I wanted to see if with the added NAD+ made a difference. Can't say that I notice too much of a difference but I also running a SS-31 research cycle which gives my RS a ton of energy.
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That low amount of NAD+ is negligible. So you wont notice a difference. A therapeutic amount of NAD+, especially to cycle up in the beginning, is 750mg a day for the first week, then 750mg a week to two weeks. Personally i dont think 20mg twice a week will do anything. It wont hurt but i think its just a reason to charge more for a product that will give no added benefit. I get my LIPO-C in a 20ml bottle for about $50-60 and thats 5 months worth and it works great. I use it in conjunction with MIC-B12 (0.5ml twice a week for each MIC and LIPO). Brings back my energy and drives away the fatigue of tirz. But have now found 5mg of SS-31 and 5mg Epitalon every other day gives me WAY more energy and its way more natural and beneficial. Ill keep using the MIC & LIPO as it wont hurt but really like the SS-31 & Epitalon. After about 8 weeks I’ll switch the SS-31 to MOTS-C for 8 weeks. I think its a better long term fix than the MIC & LIPO
 
Cavalier said:
That low amount of NAD+ is negligible. So you wont notice a difference. A therapeutic amount of NAD+, especially to cycle up in the beginning, is 750mg a day for the first week, then 750mg a week to two weeks. Personally i dont think 20mg twice a week will do anything. It wont hurt but i think its just a reason to charge more for a product that will give no added benefit. I get my LIPO-C in a 20ml bottle for about $50-60 and thats 5 months worth and it works great. I use it in conjunction with MIC-B12 (0.5ml twice a week for each MIC and LIPO). Brings back my energy and drives away the fatigue of tirz. But have now found 5mg of SS-31 and 5mg Epitalon every other day gives me WAY more energy and its way more natural and beneficial. Ill keep using the MIC & LIPO as it wont hurt but really like the SS-31 & Epitalon. After about 8 weeks I’ll switch the SS-31 to MOTS-C for 8 weeks. I think its a better long term fix than the MIC & LIPO
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Where do you get your Lipo C and MIC -B12?

Does the SS-31 and Epitalon make you jittery at all or keep you up at night. I have horrible Tirz fatigue but also insomnia. It’s a bitch!
 
Boosey77 said:
Where do you get your Lipo C and MIC -B12?

Does the SS-31 and Epitalon make you jittery at all or keep you up at night. I have horrible Tirz fatigue but also insomnia. It’s a bitch!
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I got the MIC and LIPO a few months ago so need to double check from where, ill update here when i look at the vials (i know its a US source that sells peptides). As for the SS31 and Epitalon, no jitteryness at all, I also take first thing in the morning as i heard taking it later in the day or at night may inhibit sleep. But i havent had any of that while taking it in the morning. Been great and no sleep affected. It’s hard to explain the energy as it’s nothing like caffeine energy. It’s like after injection I’m wide awake and it’s like I’ve been up and awake for hours… Like a cold shower would do. Last most of the day but sleep hasn’t been effected as far as i can tell, just take in the morning.
 
Cavalier said:
That low amount of NAD+ is negligible. So you wont notice a difference. A therapeutic amount of NAD+, especially to cycle up in the beginning, is 750mg a day for the first week, then 750mg a week to two weeks. Personally i dont think 20mg twice a week will do anything. It wont hurt but i think it’s just a reason to charge more for a product that will give no added benefit. I get my LIPO-C in a 20ml bottle for about $50-60 and thats 5 months worth and it works great. I use it in conjunction with MIC-B12 (0.5ml twice a week for each MIC and LIPO). Brings back my energy and drives away the fatigue of tirz. But have now found 5mg of SS-31 and 5mg Epitalon every other day gives me WAY more energy and its way more natural and beneficial. Ill keep using the MIC & LIPO as it wont hurt but really like the SS-31 & Epitalon. After about 8 weeks I’ll switch the SS-31 to MOTS-C for 8 weeks. I think its a better long term fix than the MIC & LIPO
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I just started Glutathione. I’m about to cycle off my NAD+ in a few weeks as I’m almost at 9 weeks. I wanted to try SS-31 and the GLOW protocol at that time. I’ll look into Epitalon as well.
 
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