A decent number of these have popped up on Meso recently, in terms of resellers. It's really clear that they're all likely sourcing from the same supplier after any type of remotely close examination of their price lists, most clearly when some random specialty items appear across multiple sources. The most visible one I am thinking of is the sildenafil/tadalafil (best known as Viagra and Cialis, respectively) combo that is called "cock bombs"; it's really unlikely that multiple vendors appear within 1-2 months of each other all suddenly calling a particular product "cock bomb" without it being that they are just reselling the same source who provides "cock bombs" as an option. There are other examples, but obviously that name jumps off the page quite readilyMade in China is "legit"-ish. They are a marketplace similar to Alibaba, but for far more sketchy shit.
Ultimately you have to vet each supplier individually. 99% of the vendors you'll hear discussed appear on MIC, along with thousands of others that nobody has been daring enough to try yet. The vast majority are just "Trading Companies" a/k/a resellers who just buy from another supplier.
They are a marketplace similar to Alibaba, but for far more sketchy shit. -ZippityA decent number of these have popped up on Meso recently, in terms of resellers. It's really clear that they're all likely sourcing from the same supplier after any type of remotely close examination of their price lists, most clearly when some random specialty items appear across multiple sources.
I do appreciate everyone who is seeking out the new vendors and testing them, both for quality through Janoshik and for experience as a purchaser. More good quality options are almost always better, both for keeping existing vendors honest and providing other options in case of bad vendor experiences.
I just dared try one. Will share when I get my stuff how it is. I went with both good pricing and had zero issues answering questionsMade in China is "legit"-ish. They are a marketplace similar to Alibaba, but for far more sketchy shit.
Ultimately you have to vet each supplier individually. 99% of the vendors you'll hear discussed appear on MIC, along with thousands of others that nobody has been daring enough to try yet. The vast majority are just "Trading Companies" a/k/a resellers who just buy from another supplier.
Brava! @Goreandglitter. I did a similar thing by purchasing a kit from a newish CN vendor.. Stunningly short delivery time! But it is Retatrutide and I have something like 4-5 months of Tirzepatide ahead of it now! I was fatally tempted by QSC's Group Buy and a forum member here who made it just too easy to buy part of a kit. And I can resist any thing but temptation ya know!I just dared try one. Will share when I get my stuff how it is. I went with both good pricing and had zero issues answering questions
Mine just shipped via fedex so we’ll see how long it takes to get here.Brava! @Goreandglitter. I did a similar thing by purchasing a kit from a newish CN vendor.. Stunningly short delivery time! But it is Retatrutide and I have something like 4-5 months of Tirzepatide ahead of it now! I was fatally tempted by QSC's Group Buy and a forum member here who made it just too easy to buy part of a kit. And I can resist any thing but temptation ya know!
It's the Anti ti ti ti Ci PA tion that's the killer.Mine just shipped via fedex so we’ll see how long it takes to get here.
@FourthQuintile" ...Would a Janoshik test (good or bad) from one of these vendors likely be applicable to any other vendor with a similar price list, if they are all sourcing from the same supplier?... It is extremely unlikely though that any of us will "know" with certainty that they are using the same supplier. "
Possibly, but probably not reliably. With a company operating under "known" aliases like XCE/Cool Achieve/Xinchenyu/Energy Cycle did it's probably safe to trust test results for the same product, but for anyone else without firm knowledge of the associations between companies it would be a pretty big gamble.Would a Janoshik test (good or bad) from one of these vendors likely be applicable to any other vendor with a similar price list, if they are all sourcing from the same supplier?
Without getting too deep into the weeds of how the sausage is made, there are only a handful of actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws; 3-5 is the best current intel.@FourthQuintile
It would be a fine thing if we could deduce where a vendor's raw product was manufactured, and interesting to know.
My speculation is that the bulk RAW product, in kilogram and larger weights, is purchased by many distributor-trader-vendors.
The Raws would then be processed through sterile filtration, mixed with mallitol filler to make it easier to accurately divide into vial portions, lyophilized, packed and sold to us. There would be any number of opportunities to short-weight the product to increase profits; being human, many Chinese traders could not resist!
Dsappointingly, as consumers I believe we are left with no choice but to COA every batch purchased from every different "brand" we deal with. Further, widely reporting our individual experiences with each batch from each vendor looks like a necessity to keep the vendors honest.
I mean they're PEOPLE, wadda ya gonna do![]()
Hey Gonk, I just tried to re-order from CA and got no response. They always respond ASAP. Did they switch things up again?Possibly, but probably not reliably. With a company operating under "known" aliases like XCE/Cool Achieve/Xinchenyu/Energy Cycle did it's probably safe to trust test results for the same product, but for anyone else without firm knowledge of the associations between companies it would be a pretty big gamble.
The Chinese government shut them down mid-March for (allegedly) attracting too much attention by selling direct to consumer. "Peter" and his associates are believed to have been hauled off to a re-education camp or worse. The same factory has been resurrected under different management (now called "XYX" -- creative, eh?) but they only sell B2B and group buys for now while they determine if their government supervisors will allow them to return to selling B2C (but without an attention-attracting website next time).Hey Gonk, I just tried to re-order from CA and got no response. They always respond ASAP. Did they switch things up again?
Thats absolutely awful and terrible news for me. I need to order Tirz. Im fine with 10mg or 15mg. You can absolutely DM if needed.The Chinese government shut them down mid-March for (allegedly) attracting too much attention by selling direct to consumer. "Peter" and his associates are believed to have been hauled off to a re-education camp or worse. The same factory has been resurrected under different management (now called "XYX" -- creative, eh?) but they only sell B2B and group buys for now while they determine if their government supervisors will allow them to return to selling B2C (but without an attention-attracting website next time).
What were you trying to order from them?
I would like to know how your order turned out pleaseI just dared try one. Will share when I get my stuff how it is. I went with both good pricing and had zero issues answering questions
You’ve always been a dare devil after x. lol. Me tooI just dared try one. Will share when I get my stuff how it is. I went with both good pricing and had zero issues answering questions
lol got my incredibly cheap tirz. Dosed on saturday Still alive !!! Will report in a week or two when I’ve decided it’s efficacyYou’ve always been a dare devil after x. lol. Me too
I just got and dosed on Saturday. I’m still alive. The price was phenomenal but I need a week or two to decide if it’s good. I wouldn’t even be mad if it was under dosed for what I paid honestly.I would like to know how your order turned out please