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Mix T60 First Batch Mistake Results - 2025A512-09

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The results are in for the user paid testing of the T60. It seems a random case where some kits are T60, and the others have less Tirz and the part that is missing is filled with Reta.

Edit: Mix were the ones that alerted us to the error, even before the results came back. They are currently re-shipping and adding another 5 vials per kit.

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In full disclosure, Mix did issue an emergency announcement in their discord announcing that this happened prior to these results being finalized.

Not excusing the mix-up, but want to increase transparency on the topic.

EDIT: Looks like you knew this and posted about it already, apologies.
 
If you don't have post privileges on Mixx vendor thread, you can send them to someone who does and they should be thrown in their face. So instead of him handling 6 or 7 complaints, we can force him to post his solution to everyone. Thanks for testing/sharing!
Refer to other thread posted by Benito - this was announced by Mix with a plan to rectify a few days ago.
 
If you don't have post privileges on Mixx vendor thread, you can send them to someone who does and they should be thrown in their face. So instead of him handling 6 or 7 complaints, we can force him to post his solution to everyone. Thanks for testing/sharing!
I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.
 
I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.
Thanks for the heads up I was still able to delete my shitalking on his thread. Odd that the amount of reta takes it to the same overfill as the straight tirz, around 66mg I think.... seems calculated but that would never be admitted. Cross contamination would have been trace and small amounts like 1 or 2mg. Anyway now we gotta worry about every vendor that sold t60 with same cap color during the same period..... They're all chysters.... even though if the reta infused were all consistently 14.something mg it would work well.
 
I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.

I think the biggest safety lesson is the importance of group testing. The cost becomes only a fraction to use Jano, and in this case it was very easy because it was led by the spectacular @xdrstrang
 
I think the biggest safety lesson is the importance of group testing. The cost becomes only a fraction to use Jano, and in this case it was very easy because it was led by the spectacular @xdrstrang
1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.
 
1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.
Yeah 25% reta is not cross contamination.... 14+ mg ? Nope. .5 to 1.5mg maybe. Betcha the group test showed it before the announcement....
 
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1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.
That’s what I want to know. How did they even figure this out between their own testing and the test group results coming out? Seems really odd to me.
 
Again cross contamination would have had minuscule amounts, not make up 25%.... what was 18mg reta 38

Yeah 25% reta is not cross contamination.... 14+ mg ? Nope. .5 to 1.5mg maybe. Betcha the group test showed it before the announcement....
I tend to agree. The amount doesn’t make a ton of sense to me.
 
That’s what I want to know. How did they even figure this out between their own testing and the test group results coming out? Seems really odd to me.
Think the vendor said the factory notified them lol... Which means as soon as the test group got results.... one thread started today but looks like there was one about it Tuesday. So I'd guess whoever received janos email got it monday. They all pull this shit so if they make good, we keep buying till they get caught on the next one.... that's why I have no problem harassing and ridiculing these assholes and this issue likely effected more vendors. #busted. Group testing to the rescue...again

Vendor coas are me sending pure meth to the lab and the customers get the Epsom salt.
 
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The really problematic part is not that one vial was 80% tirz/ 20% reta, the scary part is that one vial was mixed, but the other vial was exactly as advertised.

If you knew you had an 80/20 mix, you could probably make it work for you by adjusting the concentration/dose, but not knowing what any particular vial contains is a little difficult!
 
How many times did they post that the exact same batch was being sent to the US for a restock. Then when they did get a restock posted a newer coa. Lots of lying so far. They are reshipping so that's a plus. Maybe they will reimburse for random testing going forward.
 
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The really problematic part is not that one vial was 80% tirz/ 20% reta, the scary part is that one vial was mixed, but the other vial was exactly as advertised.

If you knew you had an 80/20 mix, you could probably make it work for you by adjusting the concentration/dose, but not knowing what any particular vial contains is a little difficult!
Right would have been a great seller and it's horrifying if one kit can test different vial to vial. When I started here, not very long ago I posted my incomprehension of how one vial no hunger 3.5 days where half a turkey sammie is too much, but next vial hunger pangs that wake me up. Group testing is 2 or 3 people send in 1 vial and the others pay their 10 to 50 bucks or more depending on group size and what tests.. (I'm sure you know but for others as well) Ideally you get 3 vials from people spread well apart across the country or the world that represents a cross section of that particular batch.
 
Why on earth would anyone assume the vials in the kit are all the same? We aren’t dealing with any sort of QC with these guys from what I’ve seen. Who knows where they source their stuff from and how carefully they track unmarked vials in inventory. There is nothing sure in any of this. All we can do is keep testing and try to hold them accountable.
 
Why on earth would anyone assume the vials in the kit are all the same? We aren’t dealing with any sort of QC with these guys from what I’ve seen. Who knows where they source their stuff from and how carefully they track unmarked vials in inventory. There is nothing sure in any of this. All we can do is keep testing and try to hold them accountable.
Hey guys,
The results are in for the user paid testing of the T60. It seems a random case where some kits are T60, and the others have less Tirz and the part that is missing is filled with Reta.

Edit: Mix were the ones that alerted us to the error, even before the results came back. They are currently re-shipping and adding another 5 vials per kit.

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So I don't mean to ask stupid rookie questions, but I'm in the very beginning of educating myself to about grey market purchases. Obviously I know that scams and counterfeit products are a concern, but how often do mix-ups like this happen? Do you guys see screw-ups like this often, or did I just get unlucky and pick the wrong week to start my education?
 
Why on earth would anyone assume the vials in the kit are all the same? We aren’t dealing with any sort of QC with these guys from what I’ve seen. Who knows where they source their stuff from and how carefully they track unmarked vials in inventory. There is nothing sure in any of this. All we can do is keep testing and try to hold them accountable.
Cuz I don't think 30,000 come in one big 55 gallon trashbag from various sources and batches unless that vendor buys qc fails for 3 cents. How tf do they get weights so close and purity closer than pharma with absolutely no quality control? Luck i guess... Why isn't it feasible they get boxed almost in a general order they were produced. At the factory.

You think they get say t30 vials loose in metal shipping containers? Shit comes in kits from the production line. China's more automated than anyone. It's not 1000 workers with huge tubs of mixed vials that get topped off every 3 hours....
 
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The results are in for the user paid testing of the T60. It seems a random case where some kits are T60, and the others have less Tirz and the part that is missing is filled with Reta.

Edit: Mix were the ones that alerted us to the error, even before the results came back. They are currently re-shipping and adding another 5 vials per kit.

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I wonder if old Cain has pulled his most recently sourced batch of T60 since this news came out???

Mix sold out FAST on the last batch of T60, since someone bought it all in one shot.

"Yep, he pulled em..." Just looked.

Edited again....

Looked again, he's still got the pre-order T60 for sale. 🙄
 
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Thanks for the heads up I was still able to delete my shitalking on his thread. Odd that the amount of reta takes it to the same overfill as the straight tirz, around 66mg I think.... seems calculated but that would never be admitted. Cross contamination would have been trace and small amounts like 1 or 2mg. Anyway now we gotta worry about every vendor that sold t60 with same cap color during the same period..... They're all chysters.... even though if the reta infused were all consistently 14.something mg it would work well.
Don't get me wrong, I love seeing you work and always find your attack flights inspiring when true fuckery is afoot! Just didn't want to see you waste a good pitchfork when most of it was already done.
 
I wonder if old Cain has pulled his most recently sourced batch of T60 since this news came out???

Mix sold out FAST on the last batch of T60, since someone bought it all in one shot.
His pre-order t60 shipped out yesterday for 300 down from 515 which isn't too bad for free shipping actually.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I love seeing you work and always find your attack flights inspiring when true fuckery is afoot! Just didn't want to see you waste a good pitchfork when most of it was already done.
I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!
 
Cuz I don't think 30,000 come in one big 55 gallon trashbag from various sources and batches unless that vendor buys qc fails for 3 cents. How tf do they get weights so close and purity closer than pharma with absolutely no quality control? Luck i guess... Why isn't it feasible they get boxed almost in a general order they were produced. At the factory.

You think they get say t30 vials loose in metal shipping containers? Shit comes in kits from the production line. China's more automated than anyone. It's not 1000 workers with huge tubs of mixed vials that get topped off every 3 hours....

had to edit this.... did ur first ever injection 4 days ago and said you havent researched glp1s much and now you're an expert on vendor product acquisition, manufacturing, quality control and packaging.
Flattered you took the time to get caught up on my post history! Sincerely. I'm certainly no grey market peptide expert, but after 20 years in business auditing, I know a bit about supply chains and risk management. It reminds me of the old expression: "Good, Cheap, Fast. Pick two."

I agree with you about Chinese automation—that factory is likely hitting high purity for the bulk powder. But the risk isn't the initial synthesis. The problem is the "black box" of the supply chain: the incestuous string of middlemen who handle the product along the way.

We don’t have any assurances. This latest mixup is only one example and the forums are littered with others of various proportions, from purity and content errors to outright theft of funds. We are paying an unknown entity with crypto on anonymous encrypted messaging apps for product that is basically illegal for human use… It doesn’t take a whole lot of experience to understand the risks involved. We shouldn’t lie to ourselves about it

From an absolute purist standpoint, the only 100% guarantee a 3rd-party test of 1 vial proves is that single vial's contents. The rest is risk probability. We do our best to mitigate risk to our own tolerances. But, in the end, we’re all just betting our pinky that our lighter will ignite 10 times in a row. (+10 karma if you get the reference!)

Nothing in life is sure, but fear is always overpriced.
 
I will test all vials next time just to be safe.
That is the sad reality. When you test a vial, the result is only valid for that vial that was tested. There is no guarantee that what comes in the vial before or after that tested vial will be close in dose or the same chemical as it tested for.
It's probable, but not guaranteed.

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I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!

I'm 100% with you on that one; I got flammed on STG for giving the group a heads up on a provider that wasn't responding. If you are ina group like Meso, where you take care of each other, the outcome has a much higher chance of being a good one...
 
I'm always waiting for zip to say u best calm tf down lol.... just when I first got here people had been burnt (qsc) or shit product (asc) etc.... and a month later everyone else would buy like that's you're problem. Meso gets one guy legitimately ripped off or someone says they tested the raws but didn't it's 20 pages an hour of mortal combat until the vendor leaves or complies..... I'm too quick to call for a group stoning cuz i hurt for the victims and its happened to me several times in less than a year. Strength in numbers!
I'll bring my rocks!
 
I'm 100% with you on that one; I got flammed on STG for giving the group a heads up on a provider that wasn't responding. If you are ina group like Meso, where you take care of each other, the outcome has a much higher chance of being a good one...
This is the exact reason why STG is trash. They let power get to their heads. I hope they disappear soon. They're assholes.
 

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