Mix T60 First Batch Mistake Results - 2025A512-09

[Benito Camela]

The results are in for the user paid testing of the T60. It seems a random case where some kits are T60, and the others have less Tirz and the part that is missing is filled with Reta.

Edit: Mix were the ones that alerted us to the error, even before the results came back. They are currently re-shipping and adding another 5 vials per kit.

 

[clayd]

This is wild

 

[yeeeee333]

In full disclosure, Mix did issue an emergency announcement in their discord announcing that this happened prior to these results being finalized.

Not excusing the mix-up, but want to increase transparency on the topic.

EDIT: Looks like you knew this and posted about it already, apologies.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I guess that's why the vendor is called Mixx.... seriously unacceptable though. I bet the shit they sent for testing is on point though.... we need to put them on blast and it appears it was intentional....

 

[yeeeee333]

If you don't have post privileges on Mixx vendor thread, you can send them to someone who does and they should be thrown in their face. So instead of him handling 6 or 7 complaints, we can force him to post his solution to everyone. Thanks for testing/sharing!

Refer to other thread posted by Benito - this was announced by Mix with a plan to rectify a few days ago.

 

[randompersonrandom]

If you don't have post privileges on Mixx vendor thread, you can send them to someone who does and they should be thrown in their face. So instead of him handling 6 or 7 complaints, we can force him to post his solution to everyone. Thanks for testing/sharing!

I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.

Thanks for the heads up I was still able to delete my shitalking on his thread. Odd that the amount of reta takes it to the same overfill as the straight tirz, around 66mg I think.... seems calculated but that would never be admitted. Cross contamination would have been trace and small amounts like 1 or 2mg. Anyway now we gotta worry about every vendor that sold t60 with same cap color during the same period..... They're all chysters.... even though if the reta infused were all consistently 14.something mg it would work well.

 

[Benito Camela]

I think they know about it and broke the story before anyone else did; posted an announcement on the discord and have been contacting customers to replace or refund. (Not defending them; there's no way I'd buy from a place that had this level of carelessness this early on.) I think the only question left was "ok, but is it at all useable for people who know about it and want to see if it's any good for them?", and it looks like the answer is no because the consistency is no good.

I think the biggest safety lesson is the importance of group testing. The cost becomes only a fraction to use Jano, and in this case it was very easy because it was led by the spectacular @xdrstrang

 

[yeeeee333]

I think the biggest safety lesson is the importance of group testing. The cost becomes only a fraction to use Jano, and in this case it was very easy because it was led by the spectacular @xdrstrang

1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.

Yeah 25% reta is not cross contamination.... 14+ mg ? Nope. .5 to 1.5mg maybe. Betcha the group test showed it before the announcement....

 

[loveisinthearies]

1000% external testing is important and necessary. This case is a bit unique and definitely still have some questions. Its great they alerted people "once identified" but like others have said, it never should have happened. Also, how did they find out this happened? Can rely on their existing COA's (thinking answer is no). They knew this group was testing and was expecting results any day, so finding out was inevitable.

Overall it leaves a sour taste in what should otherwise be a straightforward process.

That’s what I want to know. How did they even figure this out between their own testing and the test group results coming out? Seems really odd to me.

 

[loveisinthearies]

Again cross contamination would have had minuscule amounts, not make up 25%.... what was 18mg reta 38

Yeah 25% reta is not cross contamination.... 14+ mg ? Nope. .5 to 1.5mg maybe. Betcha the group test showed it before the announcement....

I tend to agree. The amount doesn’t make a ton of sense to me.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

That’s what I want to know. How did they even figure this out between their own testing and the test group results coming out? Seems really odd to me.

Think the vendor said the factory notified them lol... Which means as soon as the test group got results.... one thread started today but looks like there was one about it Tuesday. So I'd guess whoever received janos email got it monday. They all pull this shit so if they make good, we keep buying till they get caught on the next one.... that's why I have no problem harassing and ridiculing these assholes and this issue likely effected more vendors. #busted. Group testing to the rescue...again

Vendor coas are me sending pure meth to the lab and the customers get the Epsom salt.

 

[Derby]

The really problematic part is not that one vial was 80% tirz/ 20% reta, the scary part is that one vial was mixed, but the other vial was exactly as advertised.

If you knew you had an 80/20 mix, you could probably make it work for you by adjusting the concentration/dose, but not knowing what any particular vial contains is a little difficult!

 

[mlke6]

How many times did they post that the exact same batch was being sent to the US for a restock. Then when they did get a restock posted a newer coat. Lots of lying so far. The are reshipping so that's a plus. Maybe they will reimburse for random testing going forward.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

The really problematic part is not that one vial was 80% tirz/ 20% reta, the scary part is that one vial was mixed, but the other vial was exactly as advertised.

If you knew you had an 80/20 mix, you could probably make it work for you by adjusting the concentration/dose, but not knowing what any particular vial contains is a little difficult!

Right would have been a great seller and it's horrifying if one kit can test different vial to vial. When I started here, not very long ago I posted my incomprehension of how one vial no hunger 3.5 days where half a turkey sammie is too much, but next vial hunger pangs that wake me up. Group testing is 2 or 3 people send in 1 vial and the others pay their 10 to 50 bucks or more depending on group size and what tests.. (I'm sure you know but for others as well) Ideally you get 3 vials from people spread well apart across the country or the world that represents a cross section of that particular batch.

 

[Nathanologist]

Why on earth would anyone assume the vials in the kit are all the same? We aren’t dealing with any sort of QC with these guys from what I’ve seen. Who knows where they source their stuff from and how carefully they track unmarked vials in inventory. There is nothing sure in any of this. All we can do is keep testing and try to hold them accountable.

 

[Airborne Daddy]

Why on earth would anyone assume the vials in the kit are all the same? We aren’t dealing with any sort of QC with these guys from what I’ve seen. Who knows where they source their stuff from and how carefully they track unmarked vials in inventory. There is nothing sure in any of this. All we can do is keep testing and try to hold them accountable.

Cuz I don't think 30,000 come in one big 55 gallon trashbag from various sources and batches unless that vendor buys qc fails for 3 cents. How tf do they get weights and purity closer than pharma with absolutely no quality control? Luck i guess... Why isn't it feasible they get boxed almost in a general order they were produced. At the factory.

You think they get say t30 vials loose in a metal shipping containers? Shit comes in kits from the production line. China's more automated than anyone. It's not 1000 workers with huge tubs of mixed vials that get topped off every 3 hours....

had to edit this.... one minute you're asking about titration and what you read about reta, but never tried it. Asked about how to expell bubbles and figured out you tap it and turn the syringe down and now you're an expert on vendor product acquisition, manufacturing, quality control and packaging. Pretty good for a 2.5 week-long member.