Mixed messages - klow/glow and history of cancer

[littledragon25]

I've tried a search here and another forum. I'm currently just a newbie on Peppys so not found much there either. I'm getting mixed info about GLOW/KLOW and it's suitability for my research subject, who has a history of cancer (2018 treated via surgery and radiation, annually monitored, no sign of recurrence).

Some sources are saying go for it, but avoid MT-1/MT-2, others are saying no growth hormone based peptides, and some sources are saying the bpc-157/tb-500 in glow/klow are a no-no for any history of cancer.

I've researched myself around in circles and I feel it's because there is mixed opinion out there. I'm curious to see what the feeling is here. Yay or nay? Or proceed with caution on a temporary basis?

For what it's worth, research is mainly into hair and skin health so the ghk-cu is the main draw, but some niggles with an old rotator cuff injury and fear of the copper burn brought me to look at the blends.

 

[desinr-gal]

I have the same question, since having had a melanoma removed in 2019. I am risking it with Klow, and I too have seen conflicting info. I have eliminated other cancer causing things from my life, so I'm hoping that will be enough to keep me safe.

 

[frankpeptid]

Look up Dr. Bhatti , MD oncologist on tik tok (I know I know...) , several videos. He recommends avoiding klow, glow, tb500, bpc, all the -morelin's etc because they all share angiogensis pathways, same pathways that cancer spreads.

 

[littledragon25]

Look up Dr. Bhatti , MD oncologist on tik tok (I know I know...) , several videos. He recommends avoiding klow, glow, tb500, bpc, all the -morelin's etc because they all share angiogensis pathways, same pathways that cancer spreads.

He was one of the sources I'd been looking at. Meanwhile other healthcare professionals on the same platform are saying it can help heal post-cancer scarring etc. so the message really is mixed and even from medical professionals.

I think I might try one cycle of bpc-157 only for the shoulder as the more critical of the sources all say absolute no to tb-500 but maybe to bpc-157 short term. Short term, I can't see how it's much more risky than many other things we do that can cause cancer. I mean, the subject had radiation to the brain... Cancer treatment can literally cause more cancer.

Then I think I'll stick to just ghk-cu for what I want it for which is hair/skin health.

 

[Bunny]

I'm taking GHK-CU with KPV for hair and skin and missing out the rest! Cancer is common on my paternal side and I don't want to encourage it.

 

[littledragon25]

I'm taking GHK-CU with KPV for hair and skin and missing out the rest! Cancer is common on my paternal side and I don't want to encourage it.

Yeh I've just ended up sticking to the ghk-cu I was pinning anyway and I've added KPV.

 

[desinr-gal]

I'm taking GHK-CU with KPV for hair and skin and missing out the rest! Cancer is common on my paternal side and I don't want to encourage it.

I would love to know more about this option.. How much of each? and how are the injections working as far as ISR and or pain? Are the benefits like Klow?
I have a history of skin cancer..

 

[psycho_driver]

I've been researching peptides for months and months and love digging up anecdotal accounts from users. So far I've seen zero accounts from anyone who thinks BPC-157/TB500 worsened their cancer prognosis. Maybe this is because the general consensus is that the angiogenesis promoting action of these compounds can cause cancer to metastasize quicker so at-risk people tend to avoid them.

I have read one account from a user on reddit who has a prostate tumor that was treated and in remission who has been a long-term user of BPC-157/TB500 and it hasn't had a negative effect for him (yet).

Also, there was one study that showed that BPC-157 added to cancer cells in a petri dish environment showed anti-cancerous properties.

So, probably no closer to an answer. If it were me and I knew I had cancerous growth or a high potential for them, I'd likely avoid those peptides. It all comes down to your personal risk tolerance.

 

[Scarroll]

The cancer concerns confuse me because it seems like if these peptides are truly cancer promoting that no one should be taking them...

 

[Waclive]

It sounds like the risks being expressed are more out of extreme caution when they were first being researched. I can almost promise there would be headlines about peptides promoting people's cancer growth in order to blacklist them in all health care capacity.

 

[Casme]

BPC-157 and TB500 are not going to cause cancer, but they will proliferate any cancers that are pre-existing. Angiogenesis is not a new thing and plenty of small molecule drugs can cause angiogenesis as a side effect. These peptides are supposed to improve blood flow to a damaged area to promote healing and cancers are considered damage, but doing so has the opposite intended effect of instead growing the cancer.

 

[Tbagger]

The cancer concerns confuse me because it seems like if these peptides are truly cancer promoting that no one should be taking them...

There are none that directly cause cancer that we know of. Maybe MT1/MT2 with melanoma but I'm not 100% sure on that since I haven't done a deep dive on those? The theoretical concerns arise from the angiogenic properties of of some and the IGF-1 increase from others. Neither of those will GIVE anyone cancer. But if someone has cancer or a tumor that is undiagnosed, they have to potential to feed and grow it.

 

[MsGizmo]

I've tried a search here and another forum. I'm currently just a newbie on Peppys so not found much there either. I'm getting mixed info about GLOW/KLOW and it's suitability for my research subject, who has a history of cancer (2018 treated via surgery and radiation, annually monitored, no sign of recurrence).

Some sources are saying go for it, but avoid MT-1/MT-2, others are saying no growth hormone based peptides, and some sources are saying the bpc-157/tb-500 in glow/klow are a no-no for any history of cancer.

I've researched myself around in circles and I feel it's because there is mixed opinion out there. I'm curious to see what the feeling is here. Yay or nay? Or proceed with caution on a temporary basis?

For what it's worth, research is mainly into hair and skin health so the ghk-cu is the main draw, but some niggles with an old rotator cuff injury and fear of the copper burn brought me to look at the blends.

From what I understand it doesn't cause cancer .. but it will make any cancer you might already have grow faster. So its one of two situations .. If you have no living cancer cells then GLOW/KLOW won't hurt you. If you do have living cancer cells GLOWKLOW will encourage it .. but not taking it isn't going to make those cancer cells go away either. Basically though that's a risk assessment that you need to make for yourself.

As for the copper burn .. its not all that bad really. The injection itself is no different than any other. You might get a welt/bruise later on. Yeah that might twinge a bit, but I would rate the pain as slightly more than a mosquito bite and less than a headache.