NAD+ Protocol

[GimmeABreak]

I also find their prices to be somewhat ridiculous

If you factor in the cost of a test they are actually pretty reasonable. They test everything at least twice, once themselves and a 3rd party test and it usually includes multiple vials from different kits. They also randomly do sterility testing. I thought the same as you when I first started but now, if they have it in stock, thats where I buy.

 

[m100568]

Is it 50-150 per day https://jaycampbell.com/anti-aging/nad-the-most-hyped-up-anti-aging-compound-of-2022/

I saw this elsewhere:

Weeks 1-2: 25mg twice a week
Weeks 3-4: 50mg twice a week
Weeks 5-6: 100mg one to two times a week.
Weeks 7+: up to 100mg up to two to three times a week (for some)

If 100mg per day I didn't buy enough.

Does it need to be cycled?

Tx

Is anyone doing SQ injections other than the approved sites, for example, the love handles? Does it really matter for NAD+?

 

[Peevee]

If you factor in the cost of a test they are actually pretty reasonable. They test everything at least twice, once themselves and a 3rd party test and it usually includes multiple vials from different kits. They also randomly do sterility testing. I thought the same as you when I first started but now, if they have it in stock, thats where I buy.

Right now they want $455 for r24. The last sale price I paid was $243 from asc for r20, I’m going to more or less ignore the extra 4mg here and say 2x as expensive doesn’t really justify it. I can buy two r20 for 486, spend 300 plus shipping to test one vial, and be in it for $786 plus shipping vs $910 from pgb

Pgb nad is much more reasonable

 

[GimmeABreak]

Right now they want $455 for r24. The last sale price I paid was $243 from asc for r20, I’m going to more or less ignore the extra 4mg here and say 2x as expensive doesn’t really justify it. I can buy two r20 for 486, spend 300 plus shipping to test one vial, and be in it for $786 plus shipping vs $910 from pgb

Pgb nad is much more reasonable

You're right, Reta pricing has declined significantly over the past couple of months and I don't think they have adjusted the price. It gets pretty good reviews from users though. You can also get in about 3 days with free shipping but still on the high-side price wise.

 

[Peevee]

You're right, Reta pricing has declined significantly over the past couple of months and I don't think they have adjusted the price. It gets pretty good reviews from users though. You can also get in about 3 days with free shipping but still on the high-side price wise.

I would definitely buy if it were more inline, or close today, amo. I’ll keep an eye out and grab some some day

 

[Peptoidian]

When I bought 1g NAD+ powder from science.bio, it wasn’t lyophilized. Have had a hard time dissolving it. I’m hoping the QSC NAD+ I just ordered is lyophilized… Have you experienced either one?

I just ordered NAD+ from QSC's Xmas sale and just received it today. It's lyophilized. Haven't tried it yet. It's not buffered so I'm waiting on some basic/alkaline solution so can raise the pH when reconstituting it. If anyone here has done this before would love to know what worked for you.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I just ordered NAD+ from QSC's Xmas sale and just received it today. It's lyophilized. Haven't tried it yet. It's not buffered so I'm waiting on some basic/alkaline solution so can raise the pH when reconstituting it. If anyone here has done this before would love to know what worked for you.

Use sodium bicarbonate to bring the PH up to about 6 (not higher).
Every NAD+ is different so there isn’t a standard amount that needs to be added. I would start by adding half of your sterile saline (or BAC water for SQ) wait until the vial is fully reconstituted, then test the PH. You want a target of 6, I have read that NAD degrades quickly at PH higher than about 6.5. If the PH is low, add a couple of units of SB then test again. Keep adding SB and testing until you achieve your target PH (keeping track of how much you added) then add the rest of your saline/BAC water, Also, remember to put a vent needle in your vial, its going to bubble a lot.

When you reconstitute your next vial the amount of SB you need to add should be about the same as the amount you added to your first vial.

edited to remove the link to Lidocaine OP was looking for Sodium Bicarb

 

[Peptoidian]

Thank you - this is super- helpful!

 

[subseaxplorer]

Another source of Sodium Bycarbonate is Sunny Solutions on her Discord Server. She has small single use & 30 ml vials.

 

[ruisenor]

Use sodium bicarbonate to bring the PH up to about 6 (not higher).
Every NAD+ is different so there isn’t a standard amount that needs to be added. I would start by adding half of your sterile saline (or BAC water for SQ) wait until the vial is fully reconstituted, then test the PH. You want a target of 6, I have read that NAD degrades quickly at PH higher than about 6.5. If the PH is low, add a couple of units of SB then test again. Keep adding SB and testing until you achieve your target PH (keeping track of how much you added) then add the rest of your saline/BAC water, Also, remember to put a vent needle in your vial, its going to bubble a lot.

When you reconstitute your next vial the amount of SB you need to add should be about the same as the amount you added to your first vial.

edited to remove the link to Lidocaine OP was looking for Sodium Bicarb

Can you please elaborate on what you mean by vent needle? I buffed my NAD with sodium bicarbonate and it’s very pressurized actually expels liquid after I draw from it.

So clearly, I need to vent it someway.

Thank you-

 

[zpped]

Can you please elaborate on what you mean by vent needle? I buffed my NAD with sodium bicarbonate and it’s very pressurized actually expels liquid after I draw from it.

So clearly, I need to vent it someway.

Thank you-

Take a clean needle and pierce the stopper to equalize the pressure inside the vial. If you only have insulin syringes, take a new one and remove the plunger before piercing.

 

[GimmeABreak]

Take a clean needle and pierce the stopper to equalize the pressure inside the vial. If you only have insulin syringes, take a new one and remove the plunger before piercing.

This, or I use a needle from a luer lock syringe (without the syringe). You just need it so the air/gasses have somewhere to go.

 

[ruisenor]

Take a clean needle and pierce the stopper to equalize the pressure inside the vial. If you only have insulin syringes, take a new one and remove the plunger before piercing.

Thanks - was wondering why my vial seemed ready to explode

 

[Peevee]

What’s the point of nad? I’ve been on 100mg 3x a week for like a month and I get no energy or anything from it. I’m wondering why I’m taking it

 

[zpped]

What’s the point of nad? I’ve been on 100mg 3x a week for like a month and I get no energy or anything from it. I’m wondering why I’m taking it

How old are you? Have you looked into what NAD should do theoretically?

 

[ruisenor]

What’s the point of nad? I’ve been on 100mg 3x a week for like a month and I get no energy or anything from it. I’m wondering why I’m taking it

Honestly only 2 weeks in myself- hoping to see better energy levels and overall health/longevity (I am mid 50’s) can’t say I feel any impact that I can isolate so far, but just started.

 

[zpped]

Honestly only 2 weeks in myself- hoping to see better energy levels and overall health/longevity (I am mid 50’s) can’t say I feel any impact that I can isolate so far, but just started.

Are you taking a methyl donor supplement with it? Like TMG.

 

[ruisenor]

methyl donor supplement

No - was not aware this was part of the protocol- but looked at this after your post. Thanks for the tip.

 

[Peevee]

How old are you? Have you looked into what NAD should do theoretically?

I have. And it does none of those things, that I can tell