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Middle aged female, 44 yrs old. I lost 80lbs (life changing) on Tirz/Zepbound, insurance is dropping coverage in July, so I'm trying to come up with a plan, I'm currently on 12.5mg Zepbound (spring loaded pen). I'm instrested in Retatrutide for the remaining 50lbs. This world is totally new to me, I'm learning about group testing (need to figure out how to get in on a pre-order of that), which labs you want to see results from, what the heck filtering is (does everyone do this???), and what kind of switching over dosing I should be looking at.

Seems like folks are willing to share their knowledge, but it took me all evening to figure out Telegram, so lord help me. Any words of wisdom or discussion thread recommendations are most welcomed.
 
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If it's available in your state, you can always buy time by getting compounded tirz from Brello Health for $499, which would pay for up to 15 mg/week for three months (180 mg total).

Regarding filtering, most do not, arguing that the process introduces contamination as well. But I believe that argument is overstated (especially since you can buy individually-wrapped sterile products, improve your sterility techniques, such as by using 70% rubbing alcohol on surfaces, including on your gloves, and use a HEPA air filter). And filtering is not only for bacteria but for "molds, fungi, particulates, and other suspended solids" (Google Gemini).

But if time is not on your side, I would not worry about it too much. Since it is a subq injection, the non-filtering crowd is correct that their body's defenses are enough to keep them alive and out of the hospital, though they may have a greater incidence of injection-site reactions and other immune responses, which can occur even from sterile particulate matter.
 
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I've been stretching out shots (adding 1 day to each shot, and refilling right at 21 days) while its been covered, I've got 6 weeks of shots stockpiled, and I have one more refill this month, so while July is the insurance cut off, I've got some padding.

I'm looking for fat loss/weight loss, hence if I'm changing why I'm interested in Retatrutide. Do most folks do a pre-buy and group test? Or after watching some orders and tests, just buy on faith and reputation?

This is a whole new world for me, lots to learn. I think the variables in vial amount scares me a bit, but the idea of miro-dosing or twice a week is sure appealing. Less highs, less lows.
 
Lifeworthliving said:
Do most folks do a pre-buy and group test? Or after watching some orders and tests, just buy on faith and reputation?
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No. Yes.

Lifeworthliving said:
and what kind of switching over dosing I should be looking at.
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This was discussed recently in two separate threads, though they were also using cagri.

Since you are now dealing with three agonists with reta, the conservative or medically correct thing to do would be to start basically from scratch. It seems the newest trial may have a higher starting dose.

In any case, even coming from a high dose of tirz, I would probably start with something like 2 mg per week:

retauser1 said:
Yes! I went from 2, 4, 6, 9 and ended on 12. I'm sure my doctor wasn't supposed to tell me whether I ended on the 9mg or 12mg, but they could tell because it was a different bin than the 9mg. I started at 206 and weighed 132 when I had to be dosed down since I hit 22% BMI. I was trying so hard not to lose weight at the end but that high of a dose made me keep losing.
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But, coming from tirz, I would possibly raise the dose each week in the beginning (rather than every 4 weeks), until I had a side effect or started to lose at least a pound/week.
 
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It's hard to believe any China-based vendor about what they have in stock at their US warehouse, but, if I wanted reta sooner than later on a budget, I would consider SRY since they don't charge for shipping one kit:

Shanghai Senria

Post in thread '[SRY] May promotion'

🔥 LIMITED-TIME RETATRUTIDE PROMO - US STOCK! 🔥

🚀 Products & Deal:
▸ Reta 20mg Kit: $200 (Free Shipping)
▸ Reta 30mg Kit: $280 (Free Shipping)

Specified top color is not accepted

⚡️ Key Details:
✔️ Ships from US Warehouse (Fast delivery!)
✔️ Payment: Crypto Only (BTC/ETH/USDT)
⏳ While Supplies Last – No fixed end date!

📌 How to Order?
DM your sales rep.

❗️ NOTE:
Due to high demand, prices may...
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I had no problems in the past with SRY's US Warehouse or Nexaph. But I have a love-hate relationship with both vendors, mostly from reading recent instances of foreign matter in some vials (which is my biggest pet peeve for some reason, even though I filter anyway).

I also have GYC and WBS on my radar for US warehouse orders, but they all have greater minimum order requirements than SRY.

Update: SSA's US warehouse seems out-of-stock too quickly with reta, and their prices seem higher than the others.
 
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Congrats on finding the place. The normal learning curve is just getting ripped off by buying from a single vial seller. Then you find the popular place that sells kits and takes CC and is popular enough to have many testing groups. You then find out that if you want the real good prices you will need to spend the hour to learn to pay with bitcoin and buy from China vendors.

You pay extra for convenience and lack of knowledge.

Hopefully by this time you have learned that no vendor is 100% trustworthy. They all have problems and seem to go through bad patches. If you search you will find bad vials have been sold from all them.

Get discord setup on your phone and just start reading. When you see an invite link go ahead and click it. It's like playing cards, collect them all. You will stumple across group buys and vendors run promo sales. You will then get with people that bought the same batch as you and contribute to a group test.

Remember to collect all the invites you see posted. Check the vendor lists for their telegram and discord invites. You will learn quicker than you think.
 
Calm Logic said:
No. Yes.


This was discussed recently in two separate threads, though they were also using cagri.

Since you are now dealing with three agonists with reta, the conservative or medically correct thing to do would be to start basically from scratch. It seems the newest trial may have a higher starting dose.

In any case, even coming from a high dose of tirz, I would probably start with something like 2 mg per week:



But, coming from tirz, I would possibly raise the dose each week in the beginning (rather than every 4 weeks), until I had a side effect or started to lose at least a pound/week.
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I've been reading every spare moment. Based on everything, I think I will start cold turkey and titrate every few weeks until I get to a point of discomfort. Also looking at a half-dose twice a week model.
 
Calm Logic said:
It's hard to believe any China-based vendor about what they have in stock at their US warehouse, but, if I wanted reta sooner than later on a budget, I would consider SRY since they don't charge for shipping one kit:

Shanghai Senria

Post in thread '[SRY] May promotion'

🔥 LIMITED-TIME RETATRUTIDE PROMO - US STOCK! 🔥

🚀 Products & Deal:
▸ Reta 20mg Kit: $200 (Free Shipping)
▸ Reta 30mg Kit: $280 (Free Shipping)

Specified top color is not accepted

⚡️ Key Details:
✔️ Ships from US Warehouse (Fast delivery!)
✔️ Payment: Crypto Only (BTC/ETH/USDT)
⏳ While Supplies Last – No fixed end date!

📌 How to Order?
DM your sales rep.

❗️ NOTE:
Due to high demand, prices may...
  • Like

I had no problems in the past with SRY's US Warehouse or Nexaph. But I have a love-hate relationship with both vendors, mostly from reading recent instances of foreign matter in some vials (which is my biggest pet peeve for some reason, even though I filter anyway). I also have SSA, GYC, and WBS on my radar for US warehouse orders, but they all have greater minimum order requirements than SRY.
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I've found myself in the SRY telegram. I think I may take the plunge and buy the 6mg/10 vial kit, see how it goes, and see if I learn an expensive lesson.

Do you have any recommendations for needle vendors or kits, that also sell Bac Water, someone who sells everything needed to reconstitute? I've seen people speak about liking 18G for reconstituting, then 30g for injection.
 
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Wellwell said:
Congrats on finding the place. The normal learning curve is just getting ripped off by buying from a single vial seller. Then you find the popular place that sells kits and takes CC and is popular enough to have many testing groups. You then find out that if you want the real good prices you will need to spend the hour to learn to pay with bitcoin and buy from China vendors.

You pay extra for convenience and lack of knowledge.

Hopefully by this time you have learned that no vendor is 100% trustworthy. They all have problems and seem to go through bad patches. If you search you will find bad vials have been sold from all them.

Get discord setup on your phone and just start reading. When you see an invite link go ahead and click it. It's like playing cards, collect them all. You will stumple across group buys and vendors run promo sales. You will then get with people that bought the same batch as you and contribute to a group test.

Remember to collect all the invites you see posted. Check the vendor lists for their telegram and discord invites. You will learn quicker than you think.
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lol, seems like a rite of passage to get ripped off. Trying to avoid it, looking at SRY 10 vial kits. I'm not looking for rock bottom, just better than $550 a month, which is what my out-of-pocket would be on Zepbound. $300 for 12-15 weeks is just fine by me.

I have struggled with Discord, navigating around, I've found Telegram to be easier to understand. I'll keep a lookout for invites.
 
I just got an e-mail reply from SRY, their US warehouse is out of stock on reta, at least the R20 that I inquired about. On SSA's Discord, the advice I got from others was to just order directly from China.

Nexaph is still taking pre-orders for reta at $400 for R24. But that is a major investment considering some people stop taking reta due to elevated heart rate (though taking a beta blocker from an Indian pharmacy could help).

For the recon supplies, I bought a kit from Peptide Test, which includes filtering supplies. For just doing recon, Underground Supply's starter kit looks great.
 
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Calm Logic said:
I just got an e-mail reply from SRY, their US warehouse is out of stock on reta, at least the R20 that I inquired about. On SSA's Discord, the advice I got from others was to just order directly from China.

For the recon supplies, I bought a kit from Peptide Test, which includes filtering supplies. For just doing recon, Underground Supply looks great.
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Just for a time scale, I ordered tirz from SSA China on May 27 night. Tracking says it will be delivered to me tomorrow. Not bad at all to my way of thinking. I didn't get hit with a tariff that I know of but your milage may very. T60 was $225 plus 40 shipped.
 
That's good about SSA. I'm surprised they only charged $40 for FedEx shipping. I thought it was much higher than that.

Or I may just go with WBS, direct from China as well. There are not as many third-party tests for them, but they are trending well (for now).
 
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I am trying now to order R30 from SRY's US Warehouse. They just posted to the vendor section that the R20 promo is over, so I guess the R30 for $280 is still a go.
 
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