IndividualPickle
Recently Joined
Hate to say it but I think Cain might be getting too big for his britches
Nexaph vial foreign objects?
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zpped
Moderator
I'm not endorsing SRY, but looking through the private test tracker I'm seeing 20+ on target tests and only 1 or 2 under filled?
zpped
Moderator
Since you weren't actually around when this happened I'll forgive repeating this talking point. But I think you're sorely mistaken on what that is actually about.
To set the record straight, no one give a shit that Cain is fake identity. No one expects any vendor to use their real identity.
There are two issues with Cain's identity.
1) A well known member of community secretly created a new identity and tried to hide it. While influencing the community from the old identity.
2) Took the identity of a real person in China that worked in a vaccine lab and tried to convince everyone he had expertise.
If these don't bother you, fine, whatever. But at least stop trying to say its the same thing Tracy using the photo of a celebrity. Hell, Tracy used to be just another member of the community under a different name too but it was never a secret and he partnered with a real chinese lab.
I am not targeting Tracy or any of the other CN models.
It isn't even that the judgment seems imbalanced, though your story does make sense why it might be. Tracy left with millions in his wallet.. so it is different I agree.
I get it, it seemed personal, and correct I do not recall those specifics.
I have been frequenting this site for about 8 months and have seen a lot. I think i remember some issue with his mod doing "3rd" party testing IDK.. I am really drama oblivious.
Your previous post, in this thread, was about SRY only underfilling a few, I saw a post about a month ago from @nonyabizznez that had 12 out of 12 underfilled, a few weeks before that was the specks and glass, before that they may have been part of the 0 pep fiasco, and we all know about the fentanyl crisis.
I simply do not believe you can pick and choose equal vices or issues based on personal feelings.
SRY has had many issues, as did Tracy, LSPL, ASC, SSA, Royal peptide, and the list goes on..
Hell, I came here from reddit for a spreadsheet last September and watched that drama unfold.
Always drama.. But here is my opinion, albeit with little value to some, none are perfect, some are less, I don't defend or support any. Read my post history and you will find I have been purposely ambiguous in my recommendations.
I'm just saying I agree, I am not a Cain fan on the latest actions, but I can be fair and say all our Dear Vendors can leave or screw up anytime, it is the nature of our little hobby.
I would say if you don't like gray buy from EL..except:
Iamnew2this
GLP-1 Specialist
That's true, too!
zpped
Moderator
Oh for sure. I shit on every vendor all the time. We get accused of being unfair with criticism of cain but I think that's because every other vendor just doesn't get talked about as much positive or negative. I don't think there is a single vendor thread on this forum that I haven't said something negative about that vendor in.
My comment on SRY was purely factual. I don't buy from them because I don't want my address associated with a company under dea investigation. So I don't keep up with them but they do have 20+ tests in ptds and only 1 or 2 that are underfilled. That's why I ended that post with a question mark? Maybe they are going through a recent underfill spell that I hadn't heard about yet.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Also, to state the obvious, Nexa is practically in our backyard and charges more than most vendors mentioned here. So an easy target for both praise and criticism, especially since he is also seen as the Amazon of vendors.
Nexaph will at least send you a replacement. Cain has been really good about that in the past. Just talk to him.
I hear this often as well, I have made a few purchases.
When I bought I paid the price that was about $60 higher for T60 on pre-buy.
For that markup of .10 cents a mg I received free shipping, 3rd party tested and vendor tested, great customer service, and delivery within a few days.
I don't know about everyone, but do not have the cheapest TV, Car, or home, and I occasionally go out to eat and spend more on dinner than I could if i cooked at home.
Let me be as clear as possible- I do not feel comfortable buying from Nexaph now, the NAD deal and the cardboard mess is 100% past my threshold-
But the ridiculous price argument and crypto argument seems disingenuous at best.
It is an incidental price per mg and I have purchased using crypto from PGB, Kawwal, etc..
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
The prices have come down even more though by buying direct from China.
So that is part of the landscape that has changed, when you can afford your own (or group) testing by buying tirz for 34 cents/mg. Or reta for 67 cents/mg or whatever it is now from some Chinese vendors.
So that is part of the landscape that has changed, when you can afford your own (or group) testing by buying tirz for 34 cents/mg. Or reta for 67 cents/mg or whatever it is now from some Chinese vendors.
scarywood75
Scarlett Johansson
I mean, it's almost double at the moment and this is presale, it's not just a bit more expensive
I understand convenience and all, but is it really worth it for that much more?
Excluding shipping, SSA at 33¢/mg vs Nexaph at 64¢/mg, you calling that a small markup?
Regular price at the moment is 38¢/mg from your usual CN vendors, this is 24¢/mg LESS than Nexaph promotion
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Good to hear. I'll be selling some unlicensed SSA and WBS merchandise soon, haha.
Although there has been a price increase, let's be honest.. I spend more on my dang supplements.
The reality is it was the convenience store of grey, but he may have gotten lazy, or done enough volume to get more complaints, who knows...
Even if none of that is true, we are talking the difference of $144 or $3 a week on about 1 year supply if you don't' test. if you add in testing, shipping, etc it gets close fast.
It seems like basic math to me, but hey you guys root for what ever team your on, I am not cheering for any of them, I'm just glad to play the game and sometimes I pay for convenience some times I don't.
Maybe I'm just oblivious to a group effort to get Cain to come down on his price and all you guys plan on ordering tomorrow.. lol
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
If you have the money to burn, then why not test one or two of your own vials for sterility too? In any case, kit testing seems way better than batch testing to me.
dillydillymedical
I Just Joined!
First post on the forum, came across this digging around some info from nexaph, since that's where I've gotten my R24 and glow from and was digging into the world of peptides more.
Like Skidude mentioned in the quote, I haven't come across another domestic vendor that has all the above. I feel comfortable knowing that what I order is tested multiple times (once from Cain sent, and another from user submitted vials) on different days. To me, I do not want to deal with getting something shipped from CN and deal with the potential headaches that could come from that.
Would I like a cheaper price rather than spending $2.25/mg for R24 (which from Nexaph, I've had both vials filled ordered be about 10% higher) ? Hell yea of course, but even seeing some of the cheaper prices from some listed vendors here, idk how you can trust some of them while they have red dye for their Lipo-c (TFC).
I'm still learning more and more about vendors, but I haven't seen a vendor have multiple testing times, domestic shipping, decent customer service, and who will quickly fix any mistakes/bad tests.
I probably sound like a shill which goes against the grain here lol
The fact that you can acknowledge how your post may sound is the only reason I approved it when normally I would have just deleted like the dozens of similar posts we deal with every day from new members with zero other posts.
There are far too many of these kind of posts for them to simply be really enthusiastic new members that feel compelled to share just how great their experience with Vendor X has been before even bothering to introduce themselves, getting a "feel for the room", or just reading a handful of the 54K+ existing posts. Too much of this has the feel of incentivization and despite the creativity of some we're not blind to it. Food for thought.
Anyway, welcome aboard!
zpped
Moderator
This is a lot more common than you think. Most group buys meet this criteria. (edit to add *good* group buys because I'm sure there are an infinite number of bad ones)
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Regarding trust and ingredients:
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PGB is probably Nexaph's biggest domestic competitor. I prefer PGB. Sorry, can't link you to them but do some research. They usually have multiple tests, pretty open and honest. Seem to have done the lesser amount of evil between the two. No one is perfect. But PGB is pretty dope if you ask me.
Calm Logic
GLP-1 Specialist
Certainly for survo since Nexa doesn't sell it. And PGB has great pricing for survo too ($200 for a 12mg kit), even better than Chinese vendors.
As others who buy more than GLPs have pointed out before, it is hard to only have a single vendor for everything price-wise and stock-wise, but this is especially true if you buy from Nexa or PGB.
MOTS-c is out-of-stock at both Nexa and PGB. For a 10mg kit, Nexa charges over twice the price ($60 at PGB vs $145 at Nexa).
PGB also doesn't seem to normally carry most of the popular GLOW or recovery peptides, like BPC-157 or TB-500. Nexa has TB-4 in stock, but maybe because it's expensive ($235 for 10mg kit). PGB never sells GLOW, and Nexa'a out-of-stock GLOW for $350 includes 10 mg of TB-4.
PGB does normally carry injectable GHK-Cu in a 50mg kit, which is out-of-stock at both PGB ($55) and Nexa ($95). KPV is in stock at both Nexa and PGB. Nexa's 10mg kit of KPV is $110, only $25 more than PGB ($85).
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nonyabizznez
GLP-1 Specialist
SRY: (partial repost)
These are all from mid April... They had a T30 test at 25mg this week. To their credit they are being listed accordingly on their price sheet. SRY has a manufacturing problem.
(Not a hater, plenty of SRY in my stash)
KPV 10 mg - 3 vials avg 8.98mg
Tesamorelin 10mg - 3 vials avg 7.35mg
Cagrilintide 5mg - 3 vials avg 4.49mg
Cagrilintide 10mg - 3 vials avg 8.83mg
Tirzepatide 30mg - 25.07mg
Kisspeptin 10mg - 8.34mg
Sermorelin 10mg - 7.31mg
Selank 10mg - 7.85mg
Retatrutide 50mg - 3 vials avg 39.69mg
Retatrutide 5mg - 3.64mg
Tirzepatide 20mg - 18.01mg
Tirzepatide 12mg - 11.15
TB 500 (tb4) 5mg - 4.34mg
Most C (sp) 10mg - 8.01mg
Ipamorelin 5mg - 4.59
This was one big dump where only 1 in 16 tested well.
ETA: It was a shady dump though released at 3AM US (understandable with time difference) but not released to all their platforms. Not even their own Discord I don't think. They had multiple convenient "nukes" last month too but that's a job for Krysia!
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That reta 50 fill is.... rough.
I would love to not talk about nexa anymore but the dude
seems like they’re filling with appropriate amount of raws and then losing some in the finishing process. This used to be typical. Even beloved Saint Peter (rest in power) had the issue when he first hit the scene. Usually it’s like 15%, these SRY figures are pretty bad.
CrimsonTaco47
Recently Joined
Its coming from the CN warehouse
zpped
Moderator
I don't want anyone to get the idea I'm pro SRY. I don't plan on ever ordering from them. But at least a third of those are within 10% of the target which is fine. and a bunch more are just barely out.
This is more a comment on the odd shift in the community that I think has been unsafe in that the expectation is anything not overfilled is a failure.
For safety:
Precision is most important (low amount of variance between vials)
Accuracy is next. (Within 10% of the intended target)
Underfills can be compensated, overfills are dangerous.
