Nexaph vial foreign objects?

[scarywood75]

Although there has been a price increase, let's be honest.. I spend more on my dang supplements.
The reality is it was the convenience store of grey, but he may have gotten lazy, or done enough volume to get more complaints, who knows...

Even if none of that is true, we are talking the difference of $144 or $3 a week on about 1 year supply if you don't' test. if you add in testing, shipping, etc it gets close fast.

It seems like basic math to me, but hey you guys root for what ever team your on, I am not cheering for any of them, I'm just glad to play the game and sometimes I pay for convenience some times I don't.
Maybe I'm just oblivious to a group effort to get Cain to come down on his price and all you guys plan on ordering tomorrow.. lol

I understand your reasoning, it's more about the principle, I don't like paying more for something when the added value is inferior to the markup

 

[Vicki]

SRY released the tests and as far as I know before selling. They adjusted their price sheet with the correct description and vial contents.

So why is this considered under/over fill? If they sold you 4mg and charged for 4mg. I can see if you thought you were getting and paying for 10mg but they sold accurate fills according to their tests.

 

[nonyabizznez]

So why is this considered under/over fill? If they sold you 4mg and charged for 4mg. I can see if you thought you were getting and paying for 10mg but they sold accurate fills according to their tests.

Manufacturing problems where production results don't pair with production goals should cause concern about every aspect of the product you receive.

I never said they were being dishonest. I highlighted they were having a manufacturing problem.

 

[Vicki]

Manufacturing problems where production results don't pair with production goals should cause concern about every aspect of the product you receive.

I never said they were being dishonest. I highlighted they were having a manufacturing problem.

On the same note then all the overfills are the same issue. The manufacturer doesnt know what their exact loss factor will be so they're overshooting and hoping it works out.

 

[nonyabizznez]

On the same note then all the overfills are the same issue. The manufacturer doesnt know what their exact loss factor will be so they're overshooting and hoping it works out.

Yup!

Like @zpped I'm not a fan of overfill either. I recently bought a kit of Cagri 5mg that tested at 6.46mg. 29% overfill! Fortunately it was from a vendor who disclosed this. Cagri known for small doses as an add-on this is significant overdose (if you don't care to read lab reports) or extra doses (if you're looking for bargains)... I bought 2 kits! 😁

 

[zpped]

Yup!

Like @zpped I'm not a fan of overfill either. I recently bought a kit of Cagri 5mg that tested at 6.46mg. 29% overfill! Fortunately it was from a vendor who disclosed this. Cagri known for small doses as an add-on this is significant overdose (if you don't care to read lab reports) or extra doses (if you're looking for bargains)... I bought 2 kits! 😁

If the reports come out before sales, I wouldn't be comparing to the imaginary 5mg. I'm comparing the the reported 6.4mg. The 5 is completely irrelevant at that point. For all you know, they were trying to make 10mg.

 

[nonyabizznez]

If the reports come out before sales, I wouldn't be comparing to the imaginary 5mg. I'm comparing the the reported 6.4mg. The 5 is completely irrelevant at that point. For all you know, they were trying to make 10mg.

I agree!

The Cagri was a 5mg pre-order. Once the report came out the result was linked to the listing which was kept at 5mg. Any recipient of the pre-order would have to seek the result. The value perception of "super sizing" is outshining accuracy.

What would be imaginary would be the feelz someone might report who was dosing thinking they had a 5mg vial.

 

[zpped]

I agree!

The Cagri was a 5mg pre-order. Once the report came out the result was linked to the listing which was kept at 5mg. Any recipient of the pre-order would have to seek the result. The value perception of "super sizing" is outshining accuracy.

What would be imaginary would be the feelz someone might report who was dosing thinking they had a 5mg vial.

I thought you meant the results were available before any money was collected.

 

[ZippityDooDah]

 

[catdog]

Ah, this is amusing. Probably not as much for those with trypophobia haha

 

[Iamnew2this]

Ah, this is amusing. Probably not as much for those with trypophobia haha

👋😬😄

 

[AlrightyThen]

I chose not to go with SRY because every single jano test i saw they were massively underfilled....crazy. I ended up going with SSA and it just shipped today so hoping their goodies are...goodie

What is SSA? Can't seem to locate them? 🤦🏻‍♂️

 

[Calm Logic]

They are @Sigma Audley.

 

[zpped]

What is SSA? Can't seem to locate them? 🤦🏻‍♂️

It's literally the first post in the Vendor section...

[SSA] Sigma Audley Inc. - Your source for peptides, ancillaries, AAS, and more!

Apr 18, 2025

Hello there friends! from Shanghai Sigma Audley or SSA for short! We are a professional peptide supplier in China. The peptides we sell are tested by Janoshik third-party laboratory. The purity is guaranteed to be more than 99%. We look forward to cooperating with customers around the world If you have any questions, feel free to ask, and if you would like to order please free to order via PMs, or through email or whatsapp as follows:

Email: eve@sigmaaudley.com
Whatsapp: +852 6525 4751

• Sigma Audley
• Replies: 48
• Forum: Vendor Connection

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[PeppyCat]

The “just filter your shit” crowd and the “I must pay with PayPal so I can dispute the charge if it takes more than a week” crowd are different people. Only one shops at Alexa.

Yes, and I think most of us will end up at the "just filter your shit" stage after learning the hard way about the more expensive options that don't stand behind their shit 🤦‍♀️

 

[imtiredofbeingfat]

As one who filters my peptides I'm not going to filter my shit... And if I did I wouldn't drink it.

If I'm paying a Nexha premium with his hype and QR code to quality lab testing etc I don't want to have to filter because of visible shit in the vial. His Nad looks like he said "Look y'all, I can piss in it and they'll buy it!"

His prices are as unappealing as his product lately. Have at it Kmart shoppers!

I mean compared to most sites $500 for Reta 24mg kit is a good price. Most sites sell them for $2,000+ and 1 vial for $200. For around a years supply, that's really not bad. How much would your source charge you for the same thing? I'm still relatively new to the space and have never used a sourcing agent before, so i'm curious how much cheaper are we talking and how much better quality? But then again its the gray market and quality isn't a guarantee either.

 

[imtiredofbeingfat]

First post on the forum, came across this digging around some info from nexaph, since that's where I've gotten my R24 and glow from and was digging into the world of peptides more.

Like Skidude mentioned in the quote, I haven't come across another domestic vendor that has all the above. I feel comfortable knowing that what I order is tested multiple times (once from Cain sent, and another from user submitted vials) on different days. To me, I do not want to deal with getting something shipped from CN and deal with the potential headaches that could come from that.

Would I like a cheaper price rather than spending $2.25/mg for R24 (which from Nexaph, I've had both vials filled ordered be about 10% higher) ? Hell yea of course, but even seeing some of the cheaper prices from some listed vendors here, idk how you can trust some of them while they have red dye for their Lipo-c (TFC).

I'm still learning more and more about vendors, but I haven't seen a vendor have multiple testing times, domestic shipping, decent customer service, and who will quickly fix any mistakes/bad tests.

I probably sound like a shill which goes against the grain here lol

Nah I agree with you, I started Reta in March and have only ordered from Nex. Compared to all other sites selling peps he has the most reasonable prices. Without having to source yourself directly.

Plus the testing, free shipping (unless you want it faster) and willing to fix mistakes. I've ordered twice from him 1 6mg reta kit and 1 24mg reta kit, that I just started using. And just placed an order yesterday for the preorder of the $400 24mg reta kit.

When I first decided to start Reta I was discouraged because of the cost of all the sites that were selling it. After doing research I learned about vendors but it just felt sketchy ordering like that, especially as a noob. Luckily I found Nexaph, and I think they do a good job being the middle ground for a lot of people entering the world of peptides.

 

[zpped]

I mean compared to most sites $500 for Reta 24mg kit is a good price. Most sites sell them for $2,000+ and 1 vial for $200. For around a years supply, that's really not bad. How much would your source charge you for the same thing? I'm still relatively new to the space and have never used a sourcing agent before, so i'm curious how much cheaper are we talking and how much better quality? But then again its the gray market and quality isn't a guarantee either.

I've got lots of reta for $0.60/mg. So about $145. Definitely wouldn't pay a $1/mg for reta anymore, let alone $2

 

[kaahhllll]

I've got lots of reta for $0.60/mg. So about $145. Definitely wouldn't pay a $1/mg for reta anymore, let alone $2

I'm reading this and realizing, I'm kinda screwed sticking to a low dose. According to most info I've seen about shelf life of reconstituted reta, if it's only safe for 4-6 weeks. So if im consistently doing 0.5 or 1mg per week, anything more than a 5 or 6mg vial is wasted. And 5-10mg vials are roughly $1.50-2.00/mg from most vendors. I also want to vomit a bit thinking about the fact that I just paid over $10/mg for my first vial

 

[Calm Logic]

GO BIG OR GO HOME. (jk)

 

[kaahhllll]

GO BIG OR GO HOME. (jk)

TRUE.

But really, from 5mg kits to 10mg kits and from 10mg kits to 20mg kits, price drops $0.50/mg. Makes me wonder how long I can realistically safely push a vial stored in a cool, dark fridge. Better yet, in a cool, dark pen in a cool, dark, fridge. Like some kind of cold, dark peptide inception. Pep-ception if you will...

Anyone here use a single vial for 10 weeks straight? How about 20 weeks straight? Lol

 

[Calm Logic]

Anyone here use a single vial for 10 weeks straight? How about 20 weeks straight? Lol

Yes, for 10 weeks or so in my case, for my first vial.

With at least some compounding going bye-bye, you can be sure 20 weeks has been done.

 

[Iamnew2this]

I've used the same vial for 8 weeks.

 

[imtiredofbeingfat]

I'm reading this and realizing, I'm kinda screwed sticking to a low dose. According to most info I've seen about shelf life of reconstituted reta, if it's only safe for 4-6 weeks. So if im consistently doing 0.5 or 1mg per week, anything more than a 5 or 6mg vial is wasted. And 5-10mg vials are roughly $1.50-2.00/mg from most vendors. I also want to vomit a bit thinking about the fact that I just paid over $10/mg for my first vial

I was nervous at first about jumping to a high dose of reta to early too. But having the affects of a low dose was good for only a couple days, for me personally.
I started at .5mg for 1 week
Then did 2-3mg a week for about a month
Jumped to 6mg a week for the past couple months

I've lost about 60lbs in around 3 months, I feel like myself again. I no longer binge eat which was my main issue.

 

[kaahhllll]

I was nervous at first about jumping to a high dose of reta to early too. But having the affects of a low dose was good for only a couple days, for me personally.
I started at .5mg for 1 week
Then did 2-3mg a week for about a month
Jumped to 6mg a week for the past couple months

I've lost about 60lbs in around 3 months, I feel like myself again. I no longer binge eat which was my main issue.

I guess it's a fair point that I don't know how long a low dose will remain effective for me, and I may be putting the cart before a dead horse worrying about shelf(fridge) life. I spent some time researching long term storage of reconstituted reta, and most talking points are about the repeated puncturing of the stopper increasing the chance of contamination. I plan on using a pen, so maybe I'll get more storage life out of a vial safely anyway.

Congrats on your progress!

 

[chmuse]

I guess it's a fair point that I don't know how long a low dose will remain effective for me, and I may be putting the cart before a dead horse worrying about shelf(fridge) life. I spent some time researching long term storage of reconstituted reta, and most talking points are about the repeated puncturing of the stopper increasing the chance of contamination. I plan on using a pen, so maybe I'll get more storage life out of a vial safely anyway.

Congrats on your progress!

To reduce punctures, you could also put only half the vial in the pen and keep the rest in the original vial. One puncture in the original, pen gets punctured over and over, then new cart for second half of the vial for half the overall punctures of the vial/cart.

Personally I don't worry about if it's in a pen and I wipe with alcohol before using, but if it's something you're concerned with, that may help ease your anxiety.

 

[Calm Logic]

I spent some time researching long term storage of reconstituted reta, and most talking points are about the repeated puncturing of the stopper increasing the chance of contamination. I plan on using a pen, so maybe I'll get more storage life out of a vial safely anyway.

I would rather deal with sepsis than hear my spouse say, "What did you order now?" 😀

But seriously, Google Gemini loves pens for sterility purposes. Every time I would ask, I would basically get a puff piece on pens:

Even for a single patient, reusable pens generally offer a higher degree of sterility assurance compared to multi-use vials. Here's why:

Multi-use Vials (for the same patient):

• Repeated Septum Punctures:Even when used for the same patient, a multi-use vial's rubber septum is pierced multiple times. Each puncture, no matter how carefully done, carries a theoretical risk of coring (a small piece of rubber being dislodged) or introducing microorganisms from the air or the environment. While preservatives in multi-dose vials inhibit bacterial growth, they don't instantly kill all contaminants, nor do they affect viruses.
  
  
• Aseptic Technique Reliance: Maintaining sterility with a multi-use vial relies entirely on the user's consistent and perfect aseptic technique for every single dose. This means:
  • Thorough hand hygiene.
  • Swabbing the vial septum with alcohol and allowing it to dry before each and every access.
  • Using a new, sterile needle and syringe for every single dose. Never re-entering the vial with a used needle or syringe, even if it's for the same patient.
    
    
• Risk of Inadvertent Contamination: In a home setting, or even in a busy clinical environment, it's easier for accidental contamination to occur with a vial. For example, touching the needle before inserting it, or a non-sterile surface contacting the exposed needle.

Reusable Pens (for the same patient):

• Single-Use Needle per Injection: This is the most significant advantage for sterility. For every single injection, a new, sterile needle is attached to the pen. This needle only punctures the patient's skin and the drug cartridge once, ensuring that the critical patient-facing component (the needle) is always pristine.
  
  
• Closed Cartridge System: The drug itself is typically held within a sealed cartridge inside the pen. This cartridge is designed to be a closed system. While the pen's internal mechanism interacts with the cartridge, the drug itself isn't exposed to the external environment in the same way a vial is with repeated needle entries.
  
  
• Reduced Manipulation:The pen's design often streamlines the process. The user dials the dose, attaches a new needle, and injects. This reduces the number of manual steps and opportunities for error in handling the drug itself, compared to drawing from a vial.
  
  
• Dedicated Single-Patient Use: While the pen device is "reusable," the critical point for sterility is that the cartridge and the pen are dedicated to a single patient. This is paramount to prevent any potential blood backflow (even microscopic amounts) into the cartridge, which could then transmit pathogens to the same patient on a subsequent injection, or, critically, to another patient if the pen were ever shared (which is strictly forbidden).

The Main Sterility Factor:

For the same patient, the core difference in sterility comes down to the repeated access to the drug reservoir.

• With a multi-use vial, you are repeatedly creating a pathway for potential contamination into the drug supply itself via the septum, no matter how careful you are.
  
  
• With a reusable pen, the drug cartridge remains a much more isolated, closed system. The only part that repeatedly interacts with the patient's body is the single-use needle, which is discarded after each use.

This fundamental design difference makes reusable pens inherently more robust in terms of maintaining sterility for multi-dose regimens, even for a single patient, by minimizing the critical points of potential contamination at each injection.