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Yesterday I placed my first order with Henan. 10x15mg. Placed with Cora through WhatsApp. Super responsive and nice, easily paid through Alibaba.

I’m concerned it says “per agreement 45 days to ship” but Cora said shipping to me would take 15 days. Trusting Cora and I will update you all on when I receive it and how it compares to the tirz I’ve used from 2 other suppliers!
 
Yesterday I placed my first order with Henan. 10x15mg. Placed with Cora through WhatsApp. Super responsive and nice, easily paid through Alibaba.

I’m concerned it says “per agreement 45 days to ship” but Cora said shipping to me would take 15 days. Trusting Cora and I will update you all on when I receive it and how it compares to the tirz I’ve used from 2 other suppliers!
I ordered from Cora March 29, and it was delivered today.
 
Just an update- ordered 4/17, still no tracking and when messaging Cora asking for a shipping date I was told “this week.” Originally I was told it would take 15 days to arrive… patiently waiting.
 
Just an update- ordered 4/17, still no tracking and when messaging Cora asking for a shipping date I was told “this week.” Originally I was told it would take 15 days to arrive… patiently waiting.
Contact me, dear friend, I will arrange an expedited order for you.
 
Yesterday I placed my first order with Henan. 10x15mg. Placed with Cora through WhatsApp. Super responsive and nice, easily paid through Alibaba.

I’m concerned it says “per agreement 45 days to ship” but Cora said shipping to me would take 15 days. Trusting Cora and I will update you all on when I receive it and how it compares to the tirz I’ve used from 2 other suppliers!
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Just an update- ordered 4/17, still no tracking and when messaging Cora asking for a shipping date I was told “this week.” Originally I was told it would take 15 days to arrive… patiently waiting.
She’s less than honest lately… on average it’s been taking 7-10 days to get tracking..but they started only giving tracking once it’s in the US not being able to track it through China like we used to… most people are receiving it within 4-5 days of receiving the tracking number.
 
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She’s less than honest lately… on average it’s been taking 7-10 days to get tracking..but they started only giving tracking once it’s in the US not being able to track it through China like we used to… most people are receiving it within 4-5 days of receiving the tracking number.
Thanks for the info, praying it gets shipped soon. My current supply is about to run out.
 
Thanks for the info, praying it gets shipped soon. My current supply is about to run out.
I was freaking too when it happened because previously you would get the tracking within 24 hours and then it would be about 3 weeks or so to actually receive it … it’s been coming super quick once people get their tracking so I wouldn’t get nervous quite yet about that. I’ll be curious to hear how it works though because the last order I received was crap. Like I’m pretty sure they sent me something other than tirz .. even doubling my dose there a is minor effect?? Maybe???? but I think that might be in my head and hoping for something. been arguing with Cora for a min now about it.
 
I was freaking too when it happened because previously you would get the tracking within 24 hours and then it would be about 3 weeks or so to actually receive it … it’s been coming super quick once people get their tracking so I wouldn’t get nervous quite yet about that. I’ll be curious to hear how it works though because the last order I received was crap. Like I’m pretty sure they sent me something other than tirz .. even doubling my dose there a is minor effect?? Maybe???? but I think that might be in my head and hoping for something. been arguing with Cora for a min now about it.
I will totally let you know if mine is good. I read a post on fb there was testing and it was 90% so maybe you need more? I have no idea where that info was found, though. I messaged asking if they’d do expedited shipping from Cora’s message here and she responded “I can. We will arrange delivery for you tomorrow.” Which doesn’t make sense. I’ll keep updating!

What dose are you on? 2.5 and 5 worked great for me until the hunger noise came back. 7.5 for 3 weeks did NOTHING, it was like I didn’t inject anything! Now I’m on 10 and for me it’s almost too much suppression.
 
I will totally let you know if mine is good. I read a post on fb there was testing and it was 90% so maybe you need more? I have no idea where that info was found, though. I messaged asking if they’d do expedited shipping from Cora’s message here and she responded “I can. We will arrange delivery for you tomorrow.” Which doesn’t make sense. I’ll keep updating!

What dose are you on? 2.5 and 5 worked great for me until the hunger noise came back. 7.5 for 3 weeks did NOTHING, it was like I didn’t inject anything! Now I’m on 10 and for me it’s almost too much suppression.
I was on 5mg, tried 7.5 one week then went to 10.. no suppression, alll the food noise, no side effects at all (i generally get nausea, anxiety, acid reflux). Nada …. So I pulled out a vial I had from my last order did 10 and I got all the side effects and zero appetite… it’s definitely this particular batch.. which I feel confident isn’t even tirz I am super constipated (I go the other direction) and my hair is growing super fast so there’s that 😂

I’m currently sourcing other vendors I’m talking to one that’s been around 2 years and is highly rated on chemical book ..a 10mg kit is $89 and $25 shipping so solid pricing. Will probably order next week.
 
I was on 5mg, tried 7.5 one week then went to 10.. no suppression, alll the food noise, no side effects at all (i generally get nausea, anxiety, acid reflux). Nada …. So I pulled out a vial I had from my last order did 10 and I got all the side effects and zero appetite… it’s definitely this particular batch.. which I feel confident isn’t even tirz I am super constipated (I go the other direction) and my hair is growing super fast so there’s that 😂

I’m currently sourcing other vendors I’m talking to one that’s been around 2 years and is highly rated on chemical book ..a 10mg kit is $89 and $25 shipping so solid pricing. Will probably order next week.
I’d be so mad if I got a batch like this. Now I’m worried. Ugh!!! I get all the same symptoms, except when I was on 7.5 for some weird reason. Please share later on if new vendor is good? I’m glad you have some backup tirz that is good!
 
I was on 5mg, tried 7.5 one week then went to 10.. no suppression, alll the food noise, no side effects at all (i generally get nausea, anxiety, acid reflux). Nada …. So I pulled out a vial I had from my last order did 10 and I got all the side effects and zero appetite… it’s definitely this particular batch.. which I feel confident isn’t even tirz I am super constipated (I go the other direction) and my hair is growing super fast so there’s that 😂

I’m currently sourcing other vendors I’m talking to one that’s been around 2 years and is highly rated on chemical book ..a 10mg kit is $89 and $25 shipping so solid pricing. Will probably order next week.
Please keep us posted on the new vendor.

I just got my order from Cora. My husband and I will be trying it out this Sunday. Fingers crossed it isn’t a bad batch. I’ll update when we’ve had a chance for it to (hopefully) kick in.
 
Please keep us posted on the new vendor.

I just got my order from Cora. My husband and I will be trying it out this Sunday. Fingers crossed it isn’t a bad batch. I’ll update when we’ve had a chance for it to (hopefully) kick in.
Let me know how it does. My previous order from them was great. I really think they just accidentally shipped me something other than tirz they do sell other peptides. But she’s ghosted me so.. lol
 
I had an issue with my order with Henan Tengmao. I explained it to them, provided proof and was respectful but made my point with them and have reached a resolution. They took a customer oriented approach and said they would reship my order. Saw this as a positive development and will update when replacement kit arrives. Thank you @Mila Henan Tengmao and @Henan Tengmao Cora
 
Let me know how it does. My previous order from them was great. I really think they just accidentally shipped me something other than tirz they do sell other peptides. But she’s ghosted me so.. lol
She actually ghosted you? I still only see a label was created, usps still has not received. Today is day 10.
 
What was wrong with your order?
I had an issue with my order with Henan Tengmao. I explained it to them, provided proof and was respectful but made my point with them and have reached a resolution. They took a customer oriented approach and said they would reship my order. Saw this as a positive development and will update when replacement kit arrives. Thank you @Mila Henan Tengmao and @Henan Tengmao Cora
 
I cant remember where I saw it but does anyone have Coras WhatsApp info? TIA!
 
I got my tracking number from Cora over the weekend. Shipping label origination is Illinois. But I’m not expecting to see any updates until it makes its way into the U.S.
 
Well tomorrow is 15 days (how long Cora said shipping would take) so HT definitely over promises and under delivers. Still says USPS hasn’t received item.
 
they were good initially but they’ve gone way downhill
So there was an interesting post in a FB group that someone ordered from HT, Q and one other supplier. A guy said all 3 shipments were packed exactly the same and came from the same shipping address. All these different suppliers are actually 1 supplier according to his post.
 
So there was an interesting post in a FB group that someone ordered from HT, Q and one other supplier. A guy said all 3 shipments were packed exactly the same and came from the same shipping address. All these different suppliers are actually 1 supplier according to his post.
Now you guys getting it, 10/15 seller can be sellers from one company, when the sellers then gets an order they forward it to packing and paricil department.. and thats just one company..
 
So there was an interesting post in a FB group that someone ordered from HT, Q and one other supplier. A guy said all 3 shipments were packed exactly the same and came from the same shipping address. All these different suppliers are actually 1 supplier according to his post.
Link to said post?

Many of the Chinese suppliers that use 3pl fulfillment in the US will utilize the same companies & warehouses, similar to how sellers on Amazon using FBA sell products that are shipped and packaged identically. There aren't a lot of companies willing to deal with the types of products we're talking about so it's not really a surprise that 500+ Chinese suppliers are going to use the same 5 or 6 3pl providers.
 
Link to said post?

Many of the Chinese suppliers that use 3pl fulfillment in the US will utilize the same companies & warehouses, similar to how sellers on Amazon using FBA sell products that are shipped and packaged identically. There aren't a lot of companies willing to deal with the types of products we're talking about so it's not really a surprise that 500+ Chinese suppliers are going to use the same 5 or 6 3pl providers.
That makes sense as well. I can’t link the post as it’s a private fb group that admin made unsearchable right now but copied the text of it:

“Interesting find.

I ordered Tirz 30mg from 3 different sources in early April.

Three different payments in Alibaba, 3 different “women” agents taking the orders.

All have shown up.

All were packed exactly the same; same shipping address, same boxes, same color vials.

One of them said the product is packaged overseas so it all probably comes from the same factories.”
 
Like drop shipping.
"Like", but not entirely accurate.

There is no doubt that many of the Chinese suppliers are simply what in China are called "Trading Companies" that are buying the finished product from the producer and selling it as their own. Some have their own fulfillment operations in China, but also may use the same transportation and logistics providers as others; and some are definitely just following a drop-ship model.

There are however companies that are actually producing the finished products, but again may use the same transportation and logistics providers as the trading companies.

Basically, it comes down to five levels of "supplier":
1. The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying)
2. The producers or "fill and finish" companies who actually take the raws, process them, dispense into vials and then lyophilize (people I trust suggest there are perhaps about two dozen of these companies)
3. Trading companies that custom order their products from #2 (dozens of companies)
4. Trading companies that simply re-sell products from #2 and may or may not have in-house shipping (hundreds of companies)
5. Domestic vendors who purchase their products from #'s 2, 3 or 4 and resell at retail

Some companies may be a combination of #2 and #3, and that is what QSC, Senwayer, and (formerly) XCE/CA are generally believed to be doing. I won't get too deep into the "sausage making" but suffice it to say that the suppliers who are able to provide custom production runs on demand are pretty much all in this group.

One of the biggest frustrations I experience in the research peptide hobby is all of the "Has anybody bought from XYZ?" questions people constantly ask. They've spent some time on Made in China, Global Sources, ECHEMI, etc. finding suppliers, contacted them and gotten what they think are great prices and of course a rep calling them "honey" and "dear" and telling them how well-reviewed their products are and how they'll love them long time. Then they start to think they've struck gold and found the next best supplier and are eager to share with the world or at least get reassurance that they're not buying bunk because of they're usually not willing to pay for their own testing. Those kind of people are how all these suppliers have proliferated; it's an endless supply of people shopping for the lowest price above all else. The best price doesn't necessarily mean the best deal.
 
"Like", but not entirely accurate.

There is no doubt that many of the Chinese suppliers are simply what in China are called "Trading Companies" that are buying the finished product from the producer and selling it as their own. Some have their own fulfillment operations in China, but also may use the same transportation and logistics providers as others; and some are definitely just following a drop-ship model.

There are however companies that are actually producing the finished products, but again may use the same transportation and logistics providers as the trading companies.

Basically, it comes down to five levels of "supplier":
1. The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying)
2. The producers or "fill and finish" companies who actually take the raws, process them, dispense into vials and then lyophilize (people I trust suggest there are perhaps about two dozen of these companies)
3. Trading companies that custom order their products from #2 (dozens of companies)
4. Trading companies that simply re-sell products from #2 and may or may not have in-house shipping (hundreds of companies)
5. Domestic vendors who purchase their products from #'s 2, 3 or 4 and resell at retail

Some companies may be a combination of #2 and #3, and that is what QSC, Senwayer, and (formerly) XCE/CA are generally believed to be doing. I won't get too deep into the "sausage making" but suffice it to say that the suppliers who are able to provide custom production runs on demand are pretty much all in this group.

One of the biggest frustrations I experience in the research peptide hobby is all of the "Has anybody bought from XYZ?" questions people constantly ask. They've spent some time on Made in China, Global Sources, ECHEMI, etc. finding suppliers, contacted them and gotten what they think are great prices and of course a rep calling them "honey" and "dear" and telling them how well-reviewed their products are and how they'll love them long time. Then they start to think they've struck gold and found the next best supplier and are eager to share with the world or at least get reassurance that they're not buying bunk because of they're usually not willing to pay for their own testing. Those kind of people are how all these suppliers have proliferated; it's an endless supply of people shopping for the lowest price above all else. The best price doesn't necessarily mean the best deal.
Spot on, it took me 2 month of researching different sources and vendors, now i can spot a serious producer/vendor really quick. The big problem with this producers is the instability in production, two batches after another can be night and day different.
 
Spot on, it took me 2 month of researching different sources and vendors, now i can spot a serious producer/vendor really quick. The big problem with this producers is the instability in production, two batches after another can be night and day different.
Many are definitely getting better with the GLP-1's just based on the sheer volume they've had to produce in the past 18 months and the fact that the customer base is far more engaged and demanding compared to who they were used to dealing with in the past.

Ultimately it comes down to continuous testing, whether via crowdsourcing or self-pay (as I did with many suppliers when I first got into this) for the community to keep suppliers honest and weed out the bad ones. And of course hoarding the "good stuff" when it's available! 🤣
 
"Like", but not entirely accurate.

There is no doubt that many of the Chinese suppliers are simply what in China are called "Trading Companies" that are buying the finished product from the producer and selling it as their own. Some have their own fulfillment operations in China, but also may use the same transportation and logistics providers as others; and some are definitely just following a drop-ship model.

There are however companies that are actually producing the finished products, but again may use the same transportation and logistics providers as the trading companies.

Basically, it comes down to five levels of "supplier":
1. The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying)
2. The producers or "fill and finish" companies who actually take the raws, process them, dispense into vials and then lyophilize (people I trust suggest there are perhaps about two dozen of these companies)
3. Trading companies that custom order their products from #2 (dozens of companies)
4. Trading companies that simply re-sell products from #2 and may or may not have in-house shipping (hundreds of companies)
5. Domestic vendors who purchase their products from #'s 2, 3 or 4 and resell at retail

Some companies may be a combination of #2 and #3, and that is what QSC, Senwayer, and (formerly) XCE/CA are generally believed to be doing. I won't get too deep into the "sausage making" but suffice it to say that the suppliers who are able to provide custom production runs on demand are pretty much all in this group.

One of the biggest frustrations I experience in the research peptide hobby is all of the "Has anybody bought from XYZ?" questions people constantly ask. They've spent some time on Made in China, Global Sources, ECHEMI, etc. finding suppliers, contacted them and gotten what they think are great prices and of course a rep calling them "honey" and "dear" and telling them how well-reviewed their products are and how they'll love them long time. Then they start to think they've struck gold and found the next best supplier and are eager to share with the world or at least get reassurance that they're not buying bunk because of they're usually not willing to pay for their own testing. Those kind of people are how all these suppliers have proliferated; it's an endless supply of people shopping for the lowest price above all else. The best price doesn't necessarily mean the best deal.
Thanks for explaining all this. I’ve researched a lot, still learning a lot.
 
I ordered from them a few weeks ago,, product seems to be off. Lab rats are hungry the next day after eating 7.5mg. I am looking for another source. I think I will up the dosage to 10 to see if it is a week batch. I received 10 30mg.
 
I ordered from them a few weeks ago,, product seems to be off. Lab rats are hungry the next day after eating 7.5mg. I am looking for another source. I think I will up the dosage to 10 to see if it is a week batch. I received 10 30mg.
That stinks. I bought 30mg as well.
 
The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying
"Like", but not entirely accurate.

There is no doubt that many of the Chinese suppliers are simply what in China are called "Trading Companies" that are buying the finished product from the producer and selling it as their own. Some have their own fulfillment operations in China, but also may use the same transportation and logistics providers as others; and some are definitely just following a drop-ship model.

There are however companies that are actually producing the finished products, but again may use the same transportation and logistics providers as the trading companies.

Basically, it comes down to five levels of "supplier":
1. The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying)
2. The producers or "fill and finish" companies who actually take the raws, process them, dispense into vials and then lyophilize (people I trust suggest there are perhaps about two dozen of these companies)
3. Trading companies that custom order their products from #2 (dozens of companies)
4. Trading companies that simply re-sell products from #2 and may or may not have in-house shipping (hundreds of companies)
5. Domestic vendors who purchase their products from #'s 2, 3 or 4 and resell at retail

Some companies may be a combination of #2 and #3, and that is what QSC, Senwayer, and (formerly) XCE/CA are generally believed to be doing. I won't get too deep into the "sausage making" but suffice it to say that the suppliers who are able to provide custom production runs on demand are pretty much all in this group.

One of the biggest frustrations I experience in the research peptide hobby is all of the "Has anybody bought from XYZ?" questions people constantly ask. They've spent some time on Made in China, Global Sources, ECHEMI, etc. finding suppliers, contacted them and gotten what they think are great prices and of course a rep calling them "honey" and "dear" and telling them how well-reviewed their products are and how they'll love them long time. Then they start to think they've struck gold and found the next best supplier and are eager to share with the world or at least get reassurance that they're not buying bunk because of they're usually not willing to pay for their own testing. Those kind of people are how all these suppliers have proliferated; it's an endless supply of people shopping for the lowest price above all else. The best price doesn't necessarily mean the best deal.
I appreciate this information, VERY helpful when considering suppliers.
Curious if you’re familiar with who are some of the more well-known manufacturers synthesizing the raw products-GLP agonists?
 
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I ordered from them a few weeks ago,, product seems to be off. Lab rats are hungry the next day after eating 7.5mg. I am looking for another source. I think I will up the dosage to 10 to see if it is a week batch. I received 10 30mg.
Thats what I’ve been saying about the 30mg I got from HT it’s off. I doubled my dose from 5-10 and still very little effect. My previous order from them was great which is why I felt confident ordering the 30. Lesson learned.
 
The actual manufacturers synthesizing the raws (there are estimated to only be 3-5 such companies doing this for the specific products we're buying

I appreciate this information, VERY helpful when considering suppliers.
Curious if you’re familiar with who are some of the more well-known manufacturers synthesizing the raw products-GLP agonists?
I am only aware of one, and well-known is not a term used to describe them. They are a very closely guarded secret even in China, and they are extremely selective about with whom they will do business. With 1kg MOQ's, and many products fetching $200-$400k/kg, there are only so many potential customers.
 
Let me know how it does. My previous order from them was great. I really think they just accidentally shipped me something other than tirz they do sell other peptides. But she’s ghosted me so.. lol
I got my order last week and my husband and I tried it on Sunday.

We are both feeling the effects to the max. To be fair, we were both due for an increase. He went from 2.5 to 5 and I moved from 8 (sometimes 8.5) to 10. I might step back down a little next injection cause I can’t get anything in me and I know I need to be eating something.

We’ll see how the next dose goes and I’ll update when we get into a new vial.
 
I got my order last week and my husband and I tried it on Sunday.

We are both feeling the effects to the max. To be fair, we were both due for an increase. He went from 2.5 to 5 and I moved from 8 (sometimes 8.5) to 10. I might step back down a little next injection cause I can’t get anything in me and I know I need to be eating something.

We’ll see how the next dose goes and I’ll update when we get into a new vial.
I’m so happy for you that it’s working for you! Which vials did you order? I’m waiting for my 10x15mg. I’m on 10 and my husband is on 5.
 
I’m so happy for you that it’s working for you! Which vials did you order? I’m waiting for my 10x15mg. I’m on 10 and my husband is on 5.
I ordered 10x30mg Tirz. Fingers crossed that it keeps working. I’ll update as we use more. I think I want to dip into another vial before deciding if we order from them again or try another vendor. So, it might be a couple more weeks before I know for sure.
 
I ordered 10x30mg Tirz. Fingers crossed that it keeps working. I’ll update as we use more. I think I want to dip into another vial before deciding if we order from them again or try another vendor. So, it might be a couple more weeks before I know for sure.
I hope I got the same batch.
 

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