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[noteablequotable]

This is how rumors are started.

What rumors? Krysia did a pretty thorough investigation so we know that zero pep kits are an issue, and a few people on this forum are concerned about the efficacy of their kits. @Glp1judd said he was arranging a test group so we will have a definitive answer soon enough.

 

[brentm]

What rumors? Krysia did a pretty thorough investigation so we know that zero pep kits are an issue, and a few people on this forum are concerned about the efficacy of their kits. @Glp1judd said he was arranging a test group so we will have a definitive answer soon enough.

You are specifically chiming in about a vendor that has not been accused of shipping zero pep kits.

That's the rumor you are starting.

Of course people are going to suspect every vendor is shipping zero peps.... but until you have concrete evidence, you just look like chicken little spreading rumors that the sky is falling.

 

[Glp1judd]

It was three people and one of them was @Glp1judd who is Tracy's BFF. Obviously not a liar.

I honestly wouldn't blame QSC if they did ship bad kits because the problem seems to have originated with the API manufacturer, that's why so many vendors are involved.

To be clear, I’m not saying what I got is in any way bunk, nor accusuang anybody of anything.

I merely commented that after switching from 15 mg every seven days to 11 mg every 5 days, I’m feeling less effect.

This coincides with me starting a new batch of tirz, and since I bought a truckload of it to store for 2+ years (from QSC) I’m getting it tested and trying to coordinate with a few others who also bought same lot to spread cost and to widen statistics.

It’s inappropriate for you to try to portray it any other way. I really wish you’d be more honorable and not try to cause problems where there aren’t any.

Obviously if any tests prove otherwise I will share, as will others, but so far there is ZERO reason to suspect anything from QSC or any other vendor not independently proven via 3rd party tests.

Please cut the crap.

 

[noteablequotable]

You are specifically chiming in about a vendor that has not been accused of shipping zero pep kits.

That's the rumor you are starting.

Of course people are going to suspect every vendor is shipping zero peps.... but until you have concrete evidence, you just look like chicken little spreading rumors that the sky is falling.

How am I starting a rumor when I haven't said ANYWHERE that QSC is confirmed to have shipped kits with no peptides? I literally said I suspected it was the case but it hadn't been confirmed because no testing has been done. None of that is inflammatory at all.

Why is it that whenever my opinion is basically "I don't know" or " I think so, but I don't know" people who struggle with ambiguity have an aneurysm?

I know nothing at all, Brent, because this situation is an absolute shit show and no one will know anything until there has been extensive and widespread community testing. We're not likely to do much testing at all if every time someone speaks up you freak out about the reputation of your favorite vendor.

If you want someone to yell at bother one of these people. Here's the conversation where this came up:

Question. Has anyone who bought Triz during black friend noticed a difference in effectiveness? I started mine and I'm really not feeling it. I'm wondering if I have to go up in amount I'm using.

Honestly, yes.

Green top, t10.

Do you mind telling us the vendor and whether or not it's a smooth top or raised top?

QSC Black Friday - green top flat.

Coordinating a group test now.

Has seemed this way for two most recent T10 kits, but am only going by feels and logging my experience each dose/week. Last order was from November, Domestic. Got Yellow Flip Tops which was a first time seeing that design.

Have gone up from 5mg to 7.5 and even to 10 in very short amount of time from the two most recent kits.

Have not tested yet.

Thanks anyone who is sharing about their experience, it is helpful to learn I may not be the only one.

 

[noteablequotable]

Since I'm so dishonorable in spite of the fact that I was clear about not knowing anything you two can permanently fuck off and never talk to me again. I always engage sincerely and honestly and NEVER SAID QSC was proven to have shipped kits with no peptide. I said it sounded like a potential case that wasn't verified with testing.

We suspect so, but no one has done any testing yet.

I think we should start tracking potential zero pep cases and test results but that's not something I'm willing to do on my own and no one else seems interested.

@Glp1judd
@brentm

 

[brentm]

How am I starting a rumor when I haven't said ANYWHERE that QSC is confirmed to have shipped kits with no peptides?

You have trouble understanding fact from fiction apparently....

If QSC was confirmed to ship zero pep kits (which is currently false), it would not be a rumor would it? It would be a fact.

Just admit it when you make a mistake instead of posting all this nonsense.

 

[penewbie]

This is such a weird argument. Like...Who cares?

I swear I could transplant this discussion in a Taylor Swift forum, replacing QSC with TS, and zero pep with some bullshit about her albums or dating life, and the swifties will follow along, comment for comment.

 

[brentm]

This is such a weird argument. Like...Who cares?

I swear I could transplant this discussion in a Taylor Swift forum, replacing zero pep with some bullshit about her albums or dating life, and the swifties will follow along, comment for comment.

I don't know.

The thread is basically saying ....

They do it every year... it goes by fast.

If your supply is so thin you can't wait an extra couple weeks... what are we here for then?

 

[zpped]

If your supply is so thin you can't wait an extra couple weeks... what are we here for then?

Because this post isn't for us. It's for the people that don't know and don't have a stock already in their freezer that are going to be flooding in here to complain that no one has answered their whatsapp or that they have been ripped off because their stuff hasn't arrived yet.

 

[penewbie]

Because this post isn't for us. It's for the people that don't know and don't have a stock already in their freezer that are going to be flooding in here to complain that no one has answered their whatsapp or that they have been ripped off because their stuff hasn't arrived yet.

This post won't help them, they can't read anyway.

 

[brentm]

Because this post isn't for us. It's for the people that don't know and don't have a stock already in their freezer that are going to be flooding in here to complain that no one has answered their whatsapp or that they have been ripped off because their stuff hasn't arrived yet.

That's going to happen regardless of Chinese New Year celebrations....

 

[Glp1judd]

Since I'm so dishonorable in spite of the fact that I was clear about not knowing anything you two can permanently fuck off and never talk to me again. I always engage sincerely and honestly and NEVER SAID QSC was proven to have shipped kits with no peptide. I said it sounded like a potential case that wasn't verified with testing.



@Glp1judd
@brentm

We don’t “suspect so”. In any way,

And like BrentM said, there is zero reason to start a rumor like that.

You’re just being a busy body, running around creating drama.

And I don’t think you’re dense, but in case you are let me break in down like this: there’s no bigger worry and no bigger sin in this peptide world than someone shipping something that isn’t exactly what they represented it to be. For any reason. It’s seriously a reputation and business killer, and you don’t get another chance.

If you’re going to even allude to something like that, and risk anyone’s business and livelihood and hard work, you BETTER HAVE THE FUCKING PROOF.

Not having it, and just furthering doubt through innuendo is beyond shameful. I think / hope you can see that.

I realize I may have been less than clear and didn’t anticipate that someone might take my comment and blow it up out of context and try to create a rumor. I regret that. I don’t have ability to edit/delete that post, maybe @exploitedworkerbee can help?

Meanwhile, just stop.

 

[geoguy78]

Based on my observations of the online pep/glp communities on reddit, Facebook, telegram/Discord/Discourse/Pepchat, and traditional forums like this, I feel like "my pep feels less effective" is the most useless metric out there. It's the same with all the "TCI feels cleaner/pure/stronger" BS. Just purely subjective nonsense. How many posts on reddit are there along the lines of "my new vial doesn't feel like it's working?"

I think there are MANY legitimate reasons to drag QSC through the mud over, but taking the current case of the empty vials and trying to lump QSC in because an end user isn't feeling their expected results from what are (in my opinion) pretty finicky medications is just not fair.

 

[noteablequotable]

Based on my observations of the online pep/glp communities on reddit, Facebook, telegram/Discord/Discourse/Pepchat, and traditional forums like this, I feel like "my pep feels less effective" is the most useless metric out there. It's the same with all the "TCI feels cleaner/pure/stronger" BS. Just purely subjective nonsense. How many posts on reddit are there along the lines of "my new vial doesn't feel like it's working?"

I think there are MANY legitimate reasons to drag QSC through the mud over, but taking the current case of the empty vials and trying to lump QSC in because an end user isn't feeling their expected results from what are (in my opinion) pretty finicky medications is just not fair.

Good luck and God bless. I'm done with this forum and all of the others since no one seems to understand how to read.

 

[geoguy78]

Good luck and God bless. I'm done with this forum and all of the others since no one seems to understand how to read.

I'm not trying to attack you and I know what you meant, but you have to admit your original statement about QSC being under question came across pretty strong. It's ok, things happen and the written word gets taken out of context all the time.

 

[noteablequotable]

I'm not trying to attack you and I know what you meant, but you have to admit your original statement about QSC being under question came across pretty strong. It's ok, things happen and the written word gets taken out of context all the time.

I don't see it that way at all. I honestly do not understand what the fuss is about but it's clear to me through lots of interactions that I'm not a good fit for this community. That's fine.

I'm done responding now. Can't figure out how to delete my account but hopefully EWB will take care of it tomorrow.

 

[DwightTheDelight]

I don't see it that way at all. I honestly do not understand what the fuss is about but it's clear to me through lots of interactions that I'm not a good fit for this community. That's fine.

I'm done responding now. Can't figure out how to delete my account but hopefully EWB will take care of it tomorrow.

I hope you change your mind after getting some rest tonight, note. Disregarding this individual thread, because I don't know much about this topic and it's so fluid, your contributions have been amongst the most valuable this forum has to offer, in my opinion.

 

[keangkong]

a single feels report is a pretty flimsy basis to accuse a supplier of shipping bunk kits

I've read folks in other forums complaining that after switching to Zepbound from Mounjaro, the Zepbound didn't work. Those folks may not have understood that they were taking the same medication made by the same manufacturer. By the way, I believe those folks are accurately describing their experiences. I was losing 2 pounds per week when I started taking tirzepatide. That hasn't continued as I have lost weight.

 

[GimmeABreak]

I've read folks in other forums complaining that after switching to Zepbound from Mounjaro, the Zepbound didn't work. Those folks may not have understood that they were taking the same medication made by the same manufacturer. By the way, I believe those folks are accurately describing their experiences. I was losing 2 pounds per week when I started taking tirzepatide. That hasn't continued as I have lost weight.

I agree, some weeks it hits hard, other weeks it like "did I forget to pin my dose"?

 

[keangkong]

I don't see it that way at all. I honestly do not understand what the fuss is about but it's clear to me through lots of interactions that I'm not a good fit for this community. That's fine.

I'm done responding now. Can't figure out how to delete my account but hopefully EWB will take care of it tomorrow.

I'd be happy for you to stay. This forum has much disagreement. It's not for shy people. People may strongly disagree with each other. If it makes you uncomfortable (and to be clear the tone is harsh enough that it makes many people uncomfortable), by all means go. I made many of my posts elsewhere at first. However, being a person who genuinely welcomes the disagreement, I'd like you to stay.