PGB Membership

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

While it's true that PGB charges more, they also test everything and also have members testing as well. Orders are coming from a US warehouse so no worrying about customs seizing packages. Most orders arrive in less than a wk after ordering if its something they have in stock. They also do pre buys for stuff not in stock. Plus they include free bac water.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.

 

[chmuse]

It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.

axe grinder

 

[GimmeABreak]

It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.

Looks like you're headed to Nexaph for your next buy 😀

 

[GimmeABreak]

While it's true that PGB charges more, they also test everything and also have members testing as well. Orders are coming from a US warehouse so no worrying about customs seizing packages. Most orders arrive in less than a wk after ordering if its something they have in stock. They also do pre buys for stuff not in stock. Plus they include free bac water.

They actually stopped doing pre-buys a few months ago. I think it was too much of a PITA for them to manage.

 

[gothpeacock]

well mannered trolls rarely make history am I right

CrashOverride aka Zero Cool is that you?!

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Looks like you're headed to Nexaph for your next buy 😀

Truthfully if I was in urgent need I’d probably roll the dice on one of the China sources with a domestic warehouse during a promo, not sure which one right now but I’d do the research on the situation at that moment. I would try to coordinate with some friends so we could order at the same time and team up on testing.

But things are in so much flux and all these vendors are such a mess that im standing by and waiting for someone to pull ahead of the pack.

 

[indolent]

They actually stopped doing pre-buys a few months ago. I think it was too much of a PITA for them to manage.

It's my understanding that, after a problem batch incident, they no longer offer a new batch for sale until they've properly tested it. So that rules out pre-buys.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.

According to what PGB posted 8 days ago it says they are sending in 4 vials to Janoshik for testing. Also, I know that there was a lot of issues with NAD testing in the past so it might have something to do with the test, not the product.

 

[peptideusername]

According to what PGB posted 8 days ago it says they are sending in 4 vials to Janoshik for testing. Also, I know that there was a lot of issues with NAD testing in the past so it might have something to do with the test, not the product.

What were the issues with the testing in the past? everyone else gets their NADs tested by Jano.

 

[keangkong]

What were the issues with the testing in the past? everyone else gets their NADs tested by Jano.

I know that Prime Analytical Laboratories wrote a reported date January 21, 2025, stating that PGB NAD+ tested as 92.15% pure. I'm not going to post it here since I don't want to read the rules of pgbchat.com and learn whether I can repost images. It was posted today; I assume it was probably posted earlier.

 

[keangkong]

What were the issues with the testing in the past? everyone else gets their NADs tested by Jano.

I believe Janoshik does not report purity percentages for NAD+ for reasons that I read but which I did not understand.

 

[peptideusername]

I believe Janoshik does not report purity percentages for NAD+ for reasons that I read but which I did not understand.

NAD+ isn't a peptide so cannot be measured as one.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

NAD+ isn't a peptide so cannot be measured as one.
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Exactly

 

[keangkong]

NAD+ isn't a peptide so cannot be measured as one.
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Then why did Prime Analytical Labs provide a purity percentage for NAD+ as being 92.15 percent?

 

[peptideusername]

Exactly

Purity cannot be determined accurately, but mass/fill can be. What were the problems with previous testing of nad? And why do you think it's a problem with the test and not the nad?

 

[keangkong]

Purity cannot be determined accurately, but mass/fill can be. What were the problems with previous testing of nad? And why do you think it's a problem with the test and not the nad?

At this point, I'm pretty much chasing squirrels, going off researching things that I probably shouldn't be. I heard that PGB had some NAD+ that supposedly had tested poorly. I don't use NAD+ but do use PGB. I was curious enough to jump on the PGB forum. I saw an image of a test result showing low purity. I'm attaching it. From what you're saying, the purity percentage cannot be relied upon. The analysis states that the "Net Peptide Content" is 497.92 mg compared to a labelled 500 mg of NAD+. That causes me to think two things: First, 497.92 mg is extremely close to the the 500 mg claimed. Without doing any math, I know that 's above 99% of the labelled amount. Second, if NAD+ is not a peptide, a laboratory should not be calling it a a peptide. Also, the 92.15% purity rate cannot be accurately determined, if I understand correctly what you and Janoshik are stating. I do not know if it's only this particular test that has caused some folks to question the NAD+ quality from PGB. However, I have not seen any other tests questioning the PGB NAD+ quality. But there might be since I haven't been following this issue, and I do tend to get distracted and chase squirrels.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

Here is everything Janoshik had to say about NAD+, testing and purity. IMO it sounds if he is saying that NAD+ cannot be tested for purity because there is no well determined normalization procedure in the scientific community. No defined purity for NAD+. So by these statements one might conclude that facilities who say they have done purity tests on NAD+ have done so by establishing their own definition of purity or by just putting whatever they want on a test. Everyone wants COA's as the competition in the gray market is fierce. Vendors need them to sell their products and researchers want them to make sure they didn't get ripped. Lesser know testing facilities are fighting over the "scraps" left behind by the more popular Janoshik. We already know that there have been problems with tests done on products at other facilities. That is why most everyone considers Janoshik the gold standard in testing. But like I said, this is just my take on it.

 

[keangkong]

Here is everything Janoshik had to say about NAD+, testing and purity. IMO it sounds if he is saying that NAD+ cannot be tested for purity because there is no well determined normalization procedure in the scientific community. No defined purity for NAD+. So by these statements one might conclude that facilities who say they have done purity tests on NAD+ have done so by establishing their own definition of purity or by just putting whatever they want on a test. Everyone wants COA's as the competition in the gray market is fierce. Vendors need them to sell their products and researchers want them to make sure they didn't get ripped. Lesser know testing facilities are fighting over the "scraps" left behind by the more popular Janoshik. We already know that there have been problems with tests done on products at other facilities. That is why most everyone considers Janoshik the gold standard in testing. But like I said, this is just my take on it.

You seem to have a common sense take: It makes a great deal of sense. Of course, if I understood the science involved, I might have a different opinion. Since I don't, I'll stick with the opinion of the person who seems to be widely considered to be the expert in this area, Janoshik

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

It’s pretty annoying that they’re experiencing issues with their NAD showing rapid, significant degradation and instead of disclosing what they used as a buffer (which is a likely culprit) they’re forcing the community to crowdfund and then wait for testing for it. The result is the same, we figure out the buffer, but they’re choosing to lose a whole bunch of good will by going about it this way. Jlo has really lost sight of the community out of which he made his business, it’s been sad to watch.

All the pretesting doesn’t mean much if you’re using ingredients that lead to premature degradation. Between that, the price increases, and the pain in the ass payment methods, I’m no longer sure what makes them better than any other option. And I was recommending them a few weeks ago so don’t call me an axe grinder or whatever.

Here is the latest release from PGB regarding their NAD+ including their tests memebers test. For transparency they have also released buffer and ph info from their supplier.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Here is the latest release from PGB regarding their NAD+ including their tests memebers test. For transparency they have also released buffer and ph info from their supplier.

When you refuse to release information and then cave to pressure you lose the right to say you’ve done so “in the spirit of full transparency”

 

[keangkong]

When you refuse to release information and then cave to pressure you lose the right to say you’ve done so “in the spirit of full transparency”

I guess I’m more forgiving. If anytime someone gives in to pressure you still blame them for not initially doing the right thing, then you reduce the likelihood people will respond to pressure in the first place.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

I guess I’m more forgiving. If anytime someone gives in to pressure you still blame them for not initially doing the right thing, then you reduce the likelihood people will respond to pressure in the first place.

I didn’t blame them for folding to the pressure and coming around to doing the right thing. I blamed them for pretending it was “for the community” as a marketing tactic when, if that was the case, it wouldn’t have taken a pressure campaign. If they had simply released the results and skipped the manipulative language part I would have just been pleased they did so. Nothing about this process was done “in the spirit of full transparency” so it’s absurd they’re trying to get points for that.

 

[Yankeegurl_LQJ]

I guess I’m more forgiving. If anytime someone gives in to pressure you still blame them for not initially doing the right thing, then you reduce the likelihood people will respond to pressure in the first place.

I guess I am forgiving as well. I understand that first and foremost they are running a business and just like any other business they have to do what is in their best interest. Imo it doesn't matter if you are a business or an individual you deserve the time to contemplate matters before deciding how to move forward. Rarely does anything good come from making rash decisions. Im sure most everyone involved in the grey market has come across the phrases "For Research Purposes Only" and "Not for Human Consumption". We are all aware of the risks yet we all get so pissed when this stuff happens. If we want and expect top of the line gold standard treatment and products then I guess we should be going to a doctor and getting legit rx's that cost more than a mortgage payment each month. I'm not a shill for PGB but I also know that they do much more for their clients than most vendors. They also provide one of the safest and most reliable ways to purchase and receive products as well.

☆Everyone is entitled to their opinions and I respect that. This is just mine.

 

[brentm]

I guess I am forgiving as well. I understand that first and foremost they are running a business and just like any other business they have to do what is in their best interest.

That was my assumption. They were protecting trade secrets. Which might be a bit of a stretch, but it seems like everyone is protective and elusive on their formulations.

 

[peptideusername]

That was my assumption. They were protecting trade secrets. Which might be a bit of a stretch, but it seems like everyone is protective and elusive on their formulations.

grey market peptides are the only thing I've ever seen people accept "trade secrets" for things they inject into their bodies with zero safeguards. That's insane.
Shit on Eli Lilly and Novo as much as you want, but they don't (see: legally can't) keep the ingredients a secret. They have proprietary ingredients but those ingredients still have to pass FDA approval at some point.
Since we don't have that luxury in the gray market, full transparency is a fundamental requirement.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

That was my assumption. They were protecting trade secrets. Which might be a bit of a stretch, but it seems like everyone is protective and elusive on their formulations.

This is all well and good. But why do they have to try to spin it with the “in the spirit of full transparency” bullshit? Drives me nuts how jlo tries to act like he is making his decisions based on what’s good for the community when clearly that isn’t the driver here as you’ve correctly noted.

 

[Int96]

I'm absolutely opposed to their secrecy and think this should all be fully transparent. We should boycott any vendor that hides information.

 

[brentm]

grey market peptides are the only thing I've ever seen people accept "trade secrets" for things they inject into their bodies with zero safeguards. That's insane.
Shit on Eli Lilly and Novo as much as you want, but they don't (see: legally can't) keep the ingredients a secret. They have proprietary ingredients but those ingredients still have to pass FDA approval at some point.
Since we don't have that luxury in the gray market, full transparency is a fundamental requirement.

I mean that sounds good to me. But you'd still be relying on characters who routinely lie to you as the first thing they do.

 

[keangkong]

I mean that sounds good to me. But you'd still be relying on characters who routinely lie to you as the first thing they do.

Then try diet and exercise.

 

[brentm]

Then try diet and exercise.

exactly.

 

[exploitedworkerbee]

Then try diet and exercise.

Crazy talk

 

[Super Trips]

Then try diet and exercise.

but they said if i stack 3 or more peptides i can eat the whole box of donuts 😡

 

[keangkong]

Crazy talk

My sister lost that way. Hopefully she can keep it off.

 

[InternetOtaku]

Does anybody know their test results for Survodutide? I got it in my cart but I am trying to look for the test results before pulling the trigger. I tried signing up for pgbchat but seems to have no way too.

Reading this thread I needed to go to Peppys to sign in but the website is gone and they switched to Discord, I did have an account there but just haven't been on in a while. Does anybody have the Discord link? I assume I can sign up again with my old account info.

 

[raw_oyster_eater]

Then try diet and exercise.

some people start off so big, exercise isn't practical.

 

[GimmeABreak]

Does anybody know their test results for Survodutide? I got it in my cart but I am trying to look for the test results before pulling the trigger. I tried signing up for pgbchat but seems to have no way too.

Reading this thread I needed to go to Peppys to sign in but the website is gone and they switched to Discord, I did have an account there but just haven't been on in a while. Does anybody have the Discord link? I assume I can sign up again with my old account info.

Good Kitty posted an open invite to the Peppy's discourse site last week. i'm not sure if its still active though.

Post in thread 'Link to a NEW HOME for Peppys Community and the displaced Reddit & Discord Communities'

Mar 19, 2025

There are forum style categories and sub categories. All documents are in “Libraries” based on general categories like Incretin Memetics, Bioregulators, Other Peptides, Testing and Manufacturing, Health & Wellness that has a variety of diseases and health issues, Newbies library, etc… Hundreds of documents there.

Review tips and tricks category under “General” -to start with first, it has a lot of posts and one of them tells you how to make all the categories appear in your navigation menu.

Discussion categories are set up similarly, with sections for Newbies, Reconstitution, various...

• FamousGoodkitty

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Also, all of the memberpass catalogs are saved here and I don't think you need a login:

Member Pass Library | Notion

Made with Notion, the all-in-one connected workspace with publishing capabilities.

factorygirl202.notion.site

I would highly recommend joining the PGBchat.com as well. This is where available and upcoming products are announced.

 

[Wellwell]

It's worth it. The best way to get there is through Peppys.

I keep seeing Peppys mentioned but somehow have missed it. How do I get to Peppys?

 

[Calm Logic]

https://chat.peppys.org/invites/GyzKb3vqpA


More info:

Thread 'Link to a NEW HOME for Peppys Community and the displaced Reddit & Discord Communities'

Aug 5, 2023

Hey everyone - The front doors are open! Welcome to all you Peppers! I am updating this for Peppys new home.

Read through this, BUT DON'T CLICK ON ANY LINKS UNTIL YOU REGISTER (THAT LINK IS DOWN FURTHER).

If you are on icloud you may need to WHITELIST TO RECEIVE THE ACKNOWLEDGMENT EMAIL. Add discobot@chat.peppys.org to your whitelist. https://www.whitelist.guide/icloud/ Also add discobot@chat.peppys.org and discobot@peppys.org to YOUR E-MAIL CONTACT LIST.

Once you're in, we recommend starting with these key resources:

* Take the Discobot getting started...

• FamousGoodkitty
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• Forum: Public Square

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[syndet2x]

i have yet to get the Peppys invite email

from the looks of it, PGB chat needs an 'sign up' link
as it immediately defaults to /login

i tried the typical login link, and it clearly states "If an account matches...you should receive an email with a login link shortly."

if anybody sees that invite to PGB chat, then kindly post or DM

TIA

 

[Janedoe_]

it was easy for me to find the sign up invite from pgb chat , I
also signed up w peppys .

 

[Loves2eat]

When I signed up for Peppy’s I was emailed the link to sign up for PGB. I learned crypto to buy from them because they do third party testing and have a US warehouse. Even with all the issues with the NAD+ fill variances I would still purchase from them in the future.

 

[Super Trips]

Does anybody know their test results for Survodutide? I got it in my cart but I am trying to look for the test results before pulling the trigger. I tried signing up for pgbchat but seems to have no way too.

Reading this thread I needed to go to Peppys to sign in but the website is gone and they switched to Discord, I did have an account there but just haven't been on in a while. Does anybody have the Discord link? I assume I can sign up again with my old account info.

its good dont worry i bought 5 kits of survo from them